Does the teacher suffer if he has bad disciples?

By Paulo Coelho


 
A disciple said to Firoz:
 
‘The mere presence of a teacher inevitably attracts all kinds of inquisitive people, eager to discover something to their own advantage. Could that prove prejudicial to the teacher or a negative influence? Could that not turn the teacher from his path or cause him to suffer because he failed to teach what he intended to teach?’
 
Firoz, the Sufi master, replied:
 
‘The sight of a pineapple tree laden with fruit awakens the appetite of everyone who passes by. If someone chooses to eat more than his fill, he will end up consuming too many pineapples and will suffer the consequences. The owner of the tree doesn’t get indigestion though. It is the same thing with the Search. The path must be open to all, but God determines what limits to place on each individual.’

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8 Responses to “Does the teacher suffer if he has bad disciples?”


  1. 1 Agneta

    If we decide to apply the teachers role then we must also take resopnsibility for our knowledge.If we make a stand for what we want to share with our students and we belive in what we want to teach then our part is done. We cannot force our students to learn if they havent reached that level of understanding yet. If we feel hurt when the student did not give us the response that we wanted, then it is our ego maifestering it self. Becuse it feels very good when a person wants to learn something from us, it gives us an ego boost, that we fully enjoy :)Therefore to make our own satisfaction less visible we must accept that we are all on different levels and when the time comes to aquire the knowledge that someone once taught you, then you will definetly remember who it was

  2. 2 rainer

    Well said. If you start a new way in your life, you are always aware of people like you. And I know the kind of persons who want to become quickly successfull. Quick wins!
    After a while, the people only interested in quick wins are gone off to other quick wins somewhere else.

  3. 3 Marie

    There are no teachers and no students. No one is more wise than another. We all have access to the truth. Whether we use it or not is up to each one. There is no way that you can tell me what is good for me and there is no way that I can tell you what is good for you. I am living my life and you are living yours. You can tell me what works for you and what doesn’t. That may or may not be helpful to me. So please, do not withhold your experiences or your learnings, but do not expect me to follow in your path.

  4. 4 Agneta

    You are totally right Rainer, people today want to go the fast and easy way to achive sucess in life. That is poverty of the mind, and leaves us with a feeling of emptiness inside.One can meet a person that acts for his own intrests and that is ok as long as you stay firm and correct in your actions:)We can only be responsible for our own actions

  5. 5 Agneta

    Dear Marie, if you are so confident in your own power of the mind then why do you react in a way that shows your weakness instead of strenght? We are sharing experience with oneanother and that is nice don´t you think? But as i said before we are all on different levels…
    I whish you the best,Marie

  6. 6 Chus

    A good teacher is the one that makes his/her best to transmit his/her love for knowledge, as Agneta says. But nowadays many of us focus knowledge and forget the love for learning, the real reason to come a bit nearer “wisdom”.

    Marie wisdom is an “enormous” word, it’s true that our lives are full of experiences or books or whatever that can fill us with knowledge, but there’s always something new to learn. There’s also people that can give us new material, at any level. Remember the wise words of a great man: “I only know that I know nothing”, because one day, he discovered that there was always something more to learn.

  7. 7 Annamaria

    Sure, everybody can materially hurt a teacher by distorting the truth in his message, many masters have paid for that. But on a more subtle level everybody gets what he is ready to get. Sometimes the truth of a message reaches us a lot of time after we have received it, it happens with books we re-read after a while, and with words spoken by somebody. The hard part of a Master though is to let he who approaches get what he is ready to get, and sometimes let him act in his own way, be stupid and fail without intervening, knowing that it’s the only way for the pupil to learn and see. It’s not the Master’s fault if the student isn’t ready.

  8. 8 Leaf

    Some people know, and know that they know
    Some do not know, and do not know that they do not know
    Some do not know and know that they do not know
    Some know and do not know that they know

    And wisdom is about applying-living-experiencing knowledge
    so it could be said that a ‘wiseman’ need not actually ‘know’ alot.
    xxxx

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