If we could have these eyes to see….

As I wrote before:
Everything happen for a reason.

love
Agnieszka

first of all I want to thank you for your interest in this discussion and for answering me once again.

I think we may not understand God with any human measures. For me He is the wise conception of the universe, which also includes natural katastrophies.
If you see it this way you are right – they are part of the evolution of our planet and have their own sense in the development of the earth (I have to mention I am a geographer and biologist), that leads in the end to us.

What makes me thinking is the imagination that God loves every human being on the earth and will his best – the imagination He is like a father giving us His shelter. In this point I will continue wrestling -which is not bad in the end, because it is a motivation to continue the search.

If you one day say “I’m sure in my believe” or the same would be “I don’t believe nothing at all anymore” you will have reached a point of stagnation in your development.
And concerning Jesus I know I am in good company – he asked on the cross: “Father, why have you forsaken me?” Think I will ask this question still sometimes more often, but I will not give up hope for rescue.

Lots of love
Monika

but there are times….

i feel so angry…
sometimes, i just want to hurt him…

it pulls me back.

I believe there are as many ways for us to learn in life as there are people – and life teaches us according to each one of us. As horrific as catastrophies as the Tsunami can be, when meeting pain and chaos, however we respond is important. And a lot of people also experience courage, endurance, mercifullness, wake-up calls, kindness, heroism, a tremendous life force and will to live in facing that kind of situations. Personally I think the Tsuanmi happend because of global imbalance in nature which is caused by humans – not God. But at the same time being part of it changed a lot of people´s lives, also because of goodness that came forth in themselves or in others.
I hope that you find what you need.

Sibila

It’s hard to explain such things you’ve mentioned, at least we as a human beings cannot understand it somehow, but if you look at that as the part of the evolution of the earth, part of the evolution of men, you can see that it affects our emotions, our thinking, our understanding of life, how this life is so precious, so fragile.
It shows that people should enjoy every little moment given to us, because it might be our last.

Today the priest at church said: that we are no longer homo sapiens, but homo “spectators”, we so attached to TV, computers, news, etc… and what is shown on the news…catastropies, tragic,”spectacular” moments.
That’s the message for us.
We should be thankful for every moment of our life, try to be better human beings for everyone, and everywhere, because we never know…
As for catastrophies, they happened before many times, even before any of us were born, that’s the part of evolution of our planet, evolution of our universe.
Why blame God for that?
Why blame God for killings innocent people? It’s the people who made it happen, don’t you think?
How about “Passion of the Christ”?
Watching it have you had any emotions? I bet you did?
And why? Because He died, so terribly, for who?
For US.
Why? Because of those horrible people who kill others, who make these attrophies happen. For all of us, who sin.
Could you say God was unfair, cruel, for His own son?
NO, it was for a reason.

lots of love
Agnieszka

I have read the book “The five people you meet in heaven”. I would really like to believe that “everything happens for a reason”. There are surely things that happen for a reason – this is an expirience I have made in my own life.

But when I think for example of the Tsunami – and this is only one example – I cannot believe that everything (!) happens for a (good) reason! Hundreds of people had no choise and no free will at all.

Or if you consider problems as a challenge, as Sibila does – which I think is doubtless true – what will God teach us through such katastrophies?

The argument of Sibila that God is not really a discussion issue because he is beyont our mental level does not satisfy me at all!

Have you seen – “Passion of the Christ” or
“The five people you meet in heaven” with John Voight?
- explains a lot.

Everything happens for a reason.

love
Agnieszka

As I see it, God or whatever we experience as being what we call God is not really a discussion issue because our spiritual level and whatever we might call God is beyond our mental level. We can´t think or reason God, it is not up for discussion – but up for experience. It´s up for being in us.
I´m not in a position on a blog to say anything about what might or might not solve the problem you mention. But I can say what works in my own life so far. What I´ve learned is that when we are conscious, we are also naturally loving and what we can term as good. And when we are uncounscious, we can also be not caring in whatever degree and that can be evem very hurtfull and what we can also turn evil. as I see it it comes down to if our motives are based on love or fear because we act accordingly. I see God as a potential or possible level of consciousness inside ourselves, an inner authority deep inside our own integrity. And I believe in asking myself when something shows up in my life – what does this have to do with me? And what can I learn from this if I´m able to look at it thru the eyes of love? I believe that if I get a problem, I also have the solution to that problem deep inside my own being, since life is challenging me to grow and wants me to be who I can really be.I trust that there is a spiritual solution to any problem. What I´ve experienced is that if I dare to meet whatever it is with even the tinest bit of my spirituality or loving awareness, the healing has already started and the solution will eventuality become clear at some point.

I have no idea if you can use any of this, but I wanted to respond to you.

God IS almighty.
He knows good and evil, He has the power over good and evil, but He …because He is Only Good, always chooses good.
He also gave US free will to choose between good and evil. That’s why we shouldn’t blame Him BUT ourselves for what’s bad in our lives.
He always wants what good for us, but….
the problem is that people not always see it at first and act differently.

If we could only see…..

We should remember that it’s a long process, not always visible in the beggining.
We should trust in Him, so He can guides us through the whole process, so He can guides us to the Light.
For HE ALWAYS IS.

“I’m the light of the world; he who follows me will not walk in darkness but will have the light of life”

love
Agnieszka

“Faith is the force of life”
- Tolstoy.

YES !!!

“The faith is like a night. We cannot see it, but we can feel it, sense it with our heart.”

The more we feel it the more alive our heart is.
The more alive our heart is the closer we are to the Light, to God.

love
Agnieszka
P.S.
I would love to watch it, but I don’t have high speed internet, yet. Mine is too slow, unfortunately.
:-(

Thank you Paulo.

Love