In Brida, a book of mine that will be published in various countries (from March onwards), the main male character, the Magus of Folk, has to pay a price for having used magic to conquer the woman he loved. Many times we see people praying to God asking for a certain person to approach them. Do you think that involving God and the spiritual realm in our romantic searches a fair thing to do?
Can we involve our believes in our romantic searches?
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I know no reply will be coming but still I need to say……..
through all of my life i thought that aim of my life is to flow with love, to experience it to the fullest and to be able to flow with it…………
but nothing happens dream of love just not able to realize itself fully
PIDAMOS A DIOS QUE NOS ILUMINE PARA ENCONTRAR A LA PERSONA ADECUADA QUE VAYA CON NUESTRA FORMA DE SER PERO JAMAS LE PIDAMOS A DIOS TAL O CUAL PERSONA POR QUE NO SE SABE QUE QUIERE LA OTRA PERSONA EL AMOR ES UNA MIRADA UN SENTIMIENTO DE PARTE Y PARTE NO UNA OBSESIÒN QUE NOS CIEGUE A TAL PUNTO DE QUERER Y QUE ASÌ SE HAGA CONTEMOS SIEMPRE CON EL CONSENTIMIENTO DE LA OTRA PARTE Y EL UNIVERSO CONSPIRARA PARA JUNTARLOS VERDAD PAULO EL AMOR NO SE EXIGE SE DA
There is a difference between the prayers and spell/magic….prayers are pure and pleadings to god but magic is something which sort the things forcefully…there is no answer of why the person we love like crazy doesn’t reciprocate to us…love in itself is spell bound….but it doesn’t work on the one you want….turning to black magic is superficial which will haunt its fakeness throughout the life…and even the love resulted may not last forever….i think we should pray and if prayers are answered then its god’s wish but if it doesn’t then we might have asked smthg which god feels inappropriate in our lives…
when we search for true luve…we actually are searching for someone who we feel is right from our heart…when we talk about the heart we talk about love…and what is love if not a manifestation of a part of our creator…so maybe it all comes down to this…asking our chaste heart or God is the same thing…both is filled with love and when that person comes to our life we just need to turn to it and ask and receive the answer leaving behind all human prejudices…we know we can never be wrong in this…no magic potion s as strong as feelings which are pure from the heart…faking can go on for a short time…it will stop at one point…then what?
Creo en las almas gemelas,y que se las reconoce en la PRIMERA MIRADA. Creo en la primera impresiòn y los pensamientos que aparecen.
Aprendi que a toda alma gemela le corresponde el villano azul.
Los villanos azules en la primera mirada ilusionan, pero la intuicion te da una mala vibra, los acontecimientos suceden inicialmente de manera negativa y terminan del mismo modo.
Se rodea de malas amistades, utiliza intermediario y lo que no te dice a ti…lo sabeN los otros
En fin en vez de simplificar …todo pero todo se complica!!!. Otra peculiaridad es que siempre la rival trata de hacerse mi AMIGA???
Creo que Dios tiene lo mejor para mi y que todo tiene su tiempo, sus señales…y que se encuentra en algun lugar del mundo.
I think, nothing is wrong with involving your personal belief in finding your love or life partner. Since the couple will live together soon, it would be better that their beliefs be mostly not so conflicting. It is hard to live with someone who do not believe what one is believing especially when the other person does not respect the other partner’s belief. They’ll just be living like a tag of war, always in conflict. I think when we ask God for a life partner, we actually ask ourselves to let our hearts be lead by God’s wisdom so that we can choose who is right for us and not be blinded by our feelings only. – from Agnes Zopfi (on twitter too as AZopfi)
in love everything is fair except forcefully.
Magic and God/spiritual are two different realms and should not be confused with. Praying God to fullfil wishes is a fair deal as God is our ultimate father. We always resorts to our parents for our wishes and dreams.
Magic on the other hand is a fowl play because in this we are intoxicating a person to unwillingly fall in love. Its like compelling one out of his/her will to do something in our favor. So Magic is a total NO but praying is altogether different and acceptable.
Me gusta mucho :) yo le pido a Dios que se acerque a mí, no intento manipular sus sentimientos ya que intento conquistarla por mis medios pero Dios es para todos nosotros como un padre . . . Siempre estamos pidiéndole sin darle nada a cambio, pienso que sí tiene razón porque en estos días he tenido la oportunidad de estar con chicas muy guapas . . . y en fin, son pruebas que nos pone!!!! pero yo la amo a ella. . . . y ni siquiera estoy con ella . . . .
Well, I’m quiete convinced that, when we fall in love with someone, this is a new experience to learn something. So, I think, God (or Angels, or Energy, or Universe,…) showing us that person because we have to learn something from the situation.
If we pray God to make this love “possible”, I’m sure He’s listening to us. But it’s not sure we’ll be together! There’s a sort of “Plan” and maybe we meet (and we fall in love!!!) to learn something more!!
Now, I’m waiting a miracle in this sense.
Something really strange happens, and I can’t control it (it’s a luck!!). I believe in miracles and, above all, I believe this situation is teaching me something. From that Day, my life is changing and I’ve got “new” eyes and new feelings.
Love, love is the answer. Maybe, I won’t see “him” again, but what he makes me feel is a miracle. A second, only a second, and my life changed.
But now I’m living. Before all this, I was just existing.
So, merci, France.
And love to all of You!!!
Encontrar el amor es un verdadero milagro, pero los milagros no existen sin fé:Creer que ese amor está alli y viví como si él lo estuviera, cuando menos lo esperas aparece en tu vida, pero no es un golpe de suerte es el trabajo de tu alma que te lleva hasta la realización del deseo más profundo.Quiém tiene fé vive y espera eso con sereniad porque crees verdaderamente que hay alguén que tu alma desea encontrar con toda la fuerza de tu corazón es porque de alguna forma tienes un pacto por compartir experiencia que te completa com esa persona, pero hace falta muchas vueltas para que puedas encontrar un gran amor.Todo que vives antes de ese encuentro es tu vida, eres tu misma, tu felicidad, tus tristezas, tus desenganhos….tienes que vivir absolutamente todo sin esperar que la llegada del amor de tu vida pueda de dar lo que te falta, el aamor de tu vida apareces cuando te sientes serena, enamorada de ti mismo, orgullosa de cada passo que has dado porque sientes que estás haciendo bien tu camino y finalmente cuando estés plena de de ti mismo aparece ese companero de jornada que te completa alguíen a quien puedes compartír sin necesidade de hacerlo, pero hacerlo por el placer de está con él, de desfrutar cada pequeno detalle del día a día a su lado.No necesitas que alguén aparezca para que sea feliz para que vivas tu vida, pero tu alma desea un encontro con alguén que vendrá pero no esperes con ansiedad como si eso fuera la única cosa cosa que tiene que hacer en la vida, tal vez sea la más importante pero no la única, asi que haces todo lo que tenga que hacer con amor mientras no llega el momento del encuentro más importante de tu vida! si lo más importante!y no te avenguance de eso porque en eso has creido toda tu vida.Cada persona dar prioridad a un sueno que será siempre un deseo ardiente ddel alma hasta alcansarlo….y cuando lo consigues el alma si completa porque el camino no termina si inicia… y empezas a compartir….Pero te digo que hasta encontrar el amor de mi vida ese amor tan profundo y que uno siente que el universo conspira a favor de que sea real mismo cuando exista dificuldades por el camino, he amado otros companeros y fue feliz porque creo que tenia que aprender cosas por el camino, observar el camino y no si obsercionar con mi meta porque si crees en tu alma gemela ella llegará a tu vida porque ya camina en tu direción y tu en la de ella aunque no tengas coinsciencia de eso, pero tu alma conoces el camino que tiene que hacer para realizar sus propositos…un abrazo de una amiga que ha hecho un viaje maravilloso hasta encontrar el gran amor de su vida. Alimenta tu alma de ese sueno, viendo peliculas,escuchando musica,leyendo livros al respecto.un Abrazo, no te deseo suerte porque de eso no si trata, pero deseo que sintonices con tu alma y pueda reconocer las senales que te llegan…
Beautifully said! Thank you.
“showing us that person because we have to learn something from the situation”
Humm… its hard for me to accept this.. but this is also make sense..
Well said, The time when we fall in love we might pray desperately, we might pray from the bottom of the heart with true intent. But I feel the occurrence of few things is linked with our Karma and So we can not be sure If our prayers will bring that person close to us.(There is also a possibility that the other person would be earnestly praying to be close to some other person)
But surely this event would have occurred to teach us an important lesson of life.
And at the end it teaches us a lot. It leaves us with a feeling that we would have never felt otherwise, and sometimes it teaches us the value of true love.
Yes, I suppose we can… and I have the proof of it in my own life… Belief sometimes makes miracles…Just believe in the Lord and You, and sooner or later, the expectations will come true… The Creator always gives us chances, it is up to us to duly accept it…
I don’t think it’s fair to ask for a particular person since that person should be free to have a say in the matter. It should be ok to ask God or the universe for someone but not force it on anyone in particular.
How bad would it be to have no choice in your happiness?
Very true Bela.. :)
I really practice what you have just said.
Não vejo a hora de você lançar o livro em março!!! Sempre ouvi falar muito dos seus livros, principalmente “O Alquimista” mas todos sempre me diziam que a leitura era muito mística. Graças a minha Diva Anahí, comprei ” O Aleph” e no primeiro instante achei diferente de tudo que eu havia lido, mas fui lendo… Simplismente me identifiquei demais e comprendi tudo o que você passou, suas percepções e etc. Graças a Any hoje você tem mais uma fã!! :) Que venha Brida!!!
I dont pray to any god in particular.. but.. i pray to the universe which created me to conspire on my behalf in my romantic searches. so far i have been just tested one too many times. but i wont give up.
i know that only if i keep looking will i ever find it. so i am still looking. and i know i will find my girl(soul mate).
I am sure everyone is looking for their soul mate. We will all find our soul mate for sure. And there’s nothing wrong in asking a helping hand from the Universe.
Cheers
Harish
“in pursuit of my soul mate”
I believe that there is God who surrounds us. I am involving him in my romantic things. I am involving in all my issues.
God keeps us strong and strong.
i can’t remeber when i did start to include my “soon to be god’s gift” in my prayers..i think it will really be a big help to based our romantic relationship to our beliefs to God because in God nothing is impossible as long as you have faith and thinking that you’ll meet this person when everything is in the right place.
Penso che in amore non bisogna ricorrere a nulla,se non a se stessi.L’amore lo si comprende e scopre solo quando infuoca il nostro cuore di suo.Bisogna accettare di vincere e perdere.L’amore e’ l’amore solo quando e’ autentico,anche quando non e’ per sempre.
i let
my
god-of-good- fate
to do that.
its his job!
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As I get older…. God seems to play less of a part in my life and in the world’s life. He seems to be there always accepting, just watching…. letting thins happen. Therefore, I do not feel he plays a part in people falling in love as they pray they want to fall in love.
I may change my mind in a couple of years.
Victoria Violet yours is the only answer i can relate to, and it makes perfect sense to me. There is no harm in searching for true love with the help of our Creator. He will give us what we ask for if we truly want it and believe in His power to provide us with it and if He adds more to it than we requested so we should be able to overcome it as it’ll only make us and our love stronger, because unless theres no suffering or difficulty experienced then there will be no value for what we receive or any durability in the relationship to withstand difficult times or conflicts.
I second that wholly and soul-ly….!
The LOVE means God! I feel this every time I fall in love,when I’m hurt God protects me,He inspires me power,a love embraced by God has it owns signs,it’s like those marks in the sand,when u leave God, the wind has just blown them up.
The whole bible is about, a bride and a groom. Is about family, the only time you see church its in the book of Acts. Jesus Christ came to redeem his wife, THE CHURCH.
No man should be without a wife even God himself, calls the Church his Wife. We are called to a family.
I am trusting God for my family, let it be according to his will and not mine.
I thank you.
no…
Well… God is already involved when you love a person and that person reciprocates your feelings. True love is only found if HE wants both the lovers to meet and have the same feelings for each other.
Yeah, involving the spiritual realm would not be a good idea, coz that would be messing with God’s will in a way.
No… it might be better just to let life happen and bring us across a person, rather than waist energy in something that cannot/should not be changed.
ohhh..love n romance makes two love birds into one strong belief which makes where n when impossible to possible..they pray for each other only..
It is life who braught us together ..My sincere love and spicy romance changed him positively. i think our believes can bring change…………
All is fair in love and war….. you will never know if you do not ask.
It makes me remember the song ” IF I DIDN’T CARE”…if i didn’t care would my every prayer begins and ends with just his names…when we are in love there is always this magic that brings us closer to God…the impossible becomes possible.I experienced that and i firmly believed that this person could change for the better…truly i don’t know but i think we all wait for our miracles to come especially when it comes to love…but when things don’t turn out good , we have also someone to blame , God…
Emilie…..truly agree with every word that you just said….I too believe in power of prayer…. :)
Again,like all things,it depends in whose hands..but,magic is like drug,it gets you high for a while but it is an illusion and true love is not this.You can give love and spread love around without doing magic because the simple act of love is real magic.Though,we forgive those desperate hearts.
Smiling you wouldn’t believe what happened last night!
Knowledge through a dream,never judge a book by the cover!
In the search for the other half, we would always need help in interpreting the signs, signals and messages along the way. Ultimately, that search is not an end in itself but a means to an end. We seek advices, see, hear, smell and even derive inspirations when getting in touch with some form of ‘divinity’. Those are placebos, and there is nothing morally right or wrong in it.
We will be frustrated, angry, disappointed as we thought that the inspirations that we have got would eventually lead our heart to the right place. But, whenever we look at the sky, and see that there is light illuminating the outskirts of the clouds, we know that the truth is never too far away, and yes, part of that belief helps us in our search…..
I have failed many times in my romantic search, and recently that I met this guy, I know I would have to fight my own demons. However, he will be going to Spain for 3 months, and anything may happen…I believe if it’s meant to be, it will be.
God Bless
When we were born we dont know anything, learning is the best thing in our life that we can do,the best thing we can give is tomake them learn some thing useful to any one living with us, can we share our romantic searches with them , the answer is absolutely NO.
We cant in the context of human belief and psychology love grows rich when its invisible and the romance too ,and when it becomes much and much visible we leave it and so we people search of sharing the romantic searches with the god, its fair, because got gave this beautiful life and hands to post this reply to coelho blog , by giving the world a beautiful pair, god doesnt decide it , people believe it .. as one is born to get what he need .. if its fair to do right thing in the world , then its fair to pray god and involving him in the spirtual realm . since its just a belief — PEOPLE WHO HELP YOU ARE THE GODS – THOSE ARE AROUND YOU — EVEN YOU SHARE IT WITH YOURSELF– ITS SIMPLY SHARING WITH GOD — GOD HELPS WHO HELP THEMSELVES –
Dear Paulo,
In the search for the other half, we would always need help in interpreting the signs, signals and messages along the way. Ultimately, that search is not an end in itself but a means to an end. We seek advices, see, hear, smell and even derive inspirations when getting in touch with some form of ‘divinity’. Those are placebos, and there is nothing morally right or wrong in it.
We will be frustrated, angry, disappointed as we thought that the inspirations that we have got would eventually lead our heart to the right place. But, whenever we look at the sky, and see that there is light illuminating the outskirts of the clouds, we know that the truth is never too far away, and yes, part of that belief helps us in our search…..
I have failed many times in my romantic search, and recently that I met this guy, I know I would have to fight my own demons. However, he will be going to Spain for 3 months, and anything may happen…I believe if it’s meant to be, it will be.
God Bless
Hi :) There’s this guy I really like. Ive never felt like this on anyone before…so I decided to pray about it. There are times when I feel God smiling at me when I’d tell him how much I want to grab the guy’s shirt and yell at him ” Stop giving me that smile! you’re scaring me! ” :( ” Seriously, I think I really love this guy. sigh…
You see I’ve been praying for God’s guidance about this. And i dont wanna be a hypocrite and deny the fact that I asked God several times about me and “him”. being “us”. I dont see anything wrong with asking for something that would make you really happy. At the end of the day it’s only you, and you’re God. I think He knows your story as much as you’d want him to know. And even though I dont hear Him or feel Him, or even get the answers I’ve been waiting for a long time, it’s okay as long as I know that He knows… That’s the only thing that matters to me now. He doesnt have to say anything, being there for me is enough already. I am not really okay, but it’s alright :)
I always ask for guidance and help in my prayers to find my true love but it does not appear to be working :-(
I believe in destiny and love. Special someone that I believe is my soulmate but the timing is all off!
but I continu to ask for guidance always
love light and happiness
its not like that your true love will appear to u like a flash one day.the only thing is you have to concentrate while praying.the way it appears nobody can predict
I am 25 years old and I always include my beliefs in my romantic search……yah it is true that God give us the freedom to choose but sometimes especially in love we cannot choose the person/s that will come into our life…..there are a lot of people…interesting ones….that we meet each day….but how can we know that person is the right one for us……there are things in our life that is beyond our control….and in terms of love I do believe in the Power of God to choose the right partner for me….the search for love has it’s own mystery…we cannot exactly put into words what love is….how love comes into our way….I trust God and THY WILL BE DONE…..i know with Him at my side…. I can never be wrong…..
Mary, i share the same sentiment. Love is mysterious and i’m battling with this daily, one minute you understand it and the other minute its totally a matrix. God the Author of love is interested in our love life . i tool believe the that He has my best and continue to trust him to show me the way coz i think i have been tested enough though.
OH Gd, listen to the heart of your dear Daughters.
Faith and love are intertwined. I believe that the events that occur in this life are predestined by God. If one prays for love, they will receive it when the time is right… you could go on waiting an eternity, but if it is not written, it will not happen. The best thing to do is live in hope and practice patience. This way, no matter what the turn out may be, one remains happy.
Love and destiny are always linked in some way.
I have the common belief that destiny has something to do with love. But sometimes, it was the choices we make that makes our fate a lot more different than what our God first planned for us.Some people choose to wait but some people try to get ahead of time. It was just a matter of right choices to end up our search for love..
And by the way, LOVE is always present around.. We just dont know how to use our eyes correctly to see any form of LOVE given to us.. So to find LOVE, we should harness first our own senses…
Why not? Was love forbidden?
I think we still try to involve our believes in our romantic searches because deep inside our souls we still remember how things should rightly be. Which I mean, humans would not die if the man knew how to “feed” the woman with his energy in order to work her “magic”, as her magic would keep both alive. But the patriarchal system organised itself consciously and deliberately, by means of various methods, and dragged the whole subject of intimacy down to the lowest possible level of degradation, so that people would have no chance or raising their perceptions and only a very small possibity of ever remembering how things should be! When we try to conquest someone, if we pray to the stars or use black magic, it´s not only because we think we love the other person, but because in fact we´re looking for eternal life!
DEar Mr.Coelho
god walks with us every step of our life. he never abandons us and does help in the megerest of our quests. if we can pray to god for other wihes, why not love. after all, that is something he granted us as a birth rigt-’the rigt to seek love’. i dont believe there is anything wrong in involving prayers in romantic relations.
love
aditya
Aditya? Is that you? I miss you much in the blog. Agree with your few lines. True love to me is only if it is God given. I would consider doing white magic to find some more eros too!
Love & admiration,
Heart
God? Which one?
We live in a world where people say “My God”, “My God”, “Oh My God” and so we ask-which God- your God? my God? Actually I think it should be the other way around, I am yours God….yours God
I believe petitioning God is a best a fruitless activity and at worst spiritually dangerous for me. If I do not get my wish I may resent God, if I do I feel I can manipulate Gods will to my own.
What I prefer to do is ask for guidance. Is it your will God for me have a relationship? If God wants me in a romantic relationship he will make it happen. I just need to be willing an open to the opportunity.
Yes, I think there is nothing wrong in seeking a helping hand from God. If you love that person from all your heart and have true faith in yourself and God, then whole universe will try to come together for your union. But again, even if you dont get that person, dont worry since God has already matched you with another person even better than the one for whom you have sought his help.
Love
Nand
Here I am….back, commenting on my own post after almost one year. I dont know if its going to happen with me or not….Atleast the first part has not happened. I am in love with one person and know she also started loving me…but didnt show it. Or may be I guessed wrong. Whole universe didnt help in our union. Though there were some coincidences every now and then. I have always been an optimist and expect the unexpected…but its not going to happen with me….Yeah I know it. But let me confirm……i have loved(still in love) her from the purest of my heart.
Love maybe a subjective feeling. But at the end of it all, it leaves you feeling surreal about it. It came to change your world & then leaves. Like it never existed. If blind faith seems like a way to get into this dream again.. then so be it! We can only pray for our well being, other people can’t be involved in it. Our romantic searches might cross roads with our believes in times when we feel lost. But one has to realize that ‘reality’ has its own course of action that will be executed eventually. We might also end up paying a heavy price for lurking in that ‘make belief’ dreamland for so long that we did.
For me love is internal..it come from within..if we try to induce or by some way force our way into someone’s life , maybe that peron will stay with u but it wouldn’t be love…it would just be one way satisfaction of our feelings..in other way we r being selfih inwardly…n that’s not love!!
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I usually find it unfair when a man makes me fall for him and a relationship has to end… And I find myself praying…
I learned that using magic/spells/potions, always have a price. I’m not sure what the price of prayers have…
It was interesting to read Gurbinder Singh Jhita response, coming from a male viewpoint.
I, too, desire and imagine having a relationship with a man I desire and, as others have told me, fell in love with. But he is not in love with me as much as I am in love with him. At some point he did have feelings for me. But he realized it is an impossible relationship. Unfortunately, despite that, he made me fall for him… It does anger me that he had to do that. And he did that because he has been wanting something from me, which I still haven’t given.
I know I need to let go. But I also want to know that he at least still feels for me.
Wish me luck, too!
May you luck.. ! :)
hhhhhmmmmm…..I often think about this. I have brought a book on spells and Magick and there is an explicit warning against this very issue. I believe that there is always a price to pay when wishing somebody against their will. We are rational and conscious beings. The very thought of having attracting a partner into your life through Magick may leave a mark in your mind. A mark which cuts you every time things are to take a turn for the worse in the relationship. One may even return to Magick in a never ending cycle to correct things along the path to make an attempt at creating the perfect relationship. My father knows Magick and has not lived a completely fulfilled and happy life. I am sure he has pleaded with the heavens for a more healthy relationship with my mother. Magick is useful for bettering yourself so that you can be loved and love more readily i think. But not to make a women/man fall for you. I am guilty of the same mistake i think. There is a beautiful woman who i have loved. Though in my heart i know she is not the one we remain in contact. I purposely imagine us being together in sweet harmony. This is not as extreme but i had received noticeable results in a very short space of time. Though i still feel we are not compatible. What a shame. I know i need to close this door inorder to allow other doors to fully open,so, wish me luck please.
I wish you luck in your endeavor.
I feel for you. It’s not easy when you love someone but you know you can’t be together. Best to forgive and move on, but easier said than done. Good luck
I believe that there is God in every one of us. And that it is perfectly ok to ask for help. Especially if it is Someone who is already inside (and totally bigger than our small self at the same time.) I think by not asking for help we underestimating Gods potential. Interesting thing is that my requests come back in a form of lovers or close friends – and there is always what I requested + a big surprise of what I didn´t ask for. I guess everything comes at a price and we wouldn´t expand if we only received what we wanted.
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