Comments on: The Nagual Elias and the second chance http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/ Sat, 26 May 2012 23:51:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The Path of a Spiritual Warrior- Teachings from the Nagual | Lynne Forrest's Blog http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56561 The Path of a Spiritual Warrior- Teachings from the Nagual | Lynne Forrest's Blog Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:07:19 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56561 [...] Lynne on October 17, 2008 Reading Paulo Coelho’s blog this morning in which he tells the story about how the nagual Julian found the warrior’s [...] [...] Lynne on October 17, 2008 Reading Paulo Coelho’s blog this morning in which he tells the story about how the nagual Julian found the warrior’s [...]

]]> By: aditya http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56418 aditya Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:59:49 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56418 Hi paulo wasn't Carlos Castaneda also a best selling author ? Hi Jessica "Now a huge question .. Can we ever be fully trained and what happens then? Can we reach Nirvana, and is that the ultimate goal ?" yup ! huge question indeed. there is no situation when anyone can say anything about being fully trained, no one can ever be, or u can be this very moment, just drop this insistance on knowing everything, accept that somethings may remain a mystery for ever and u r OK with it, such an accepatnce is not as innocuous as it seems, it is not possible without taking a huge blow to one's ego. u know nirvana is when u are not desiring even for nirvana, nirvana is when u are living each moment in heartfelt gratitude afterall most of us cannot 'justify' or own existnace ! it is grace bestowed on us. dalai lama and all, yes they too set aside some time for meditation, that is mostly to enjoy some quietitude; otherwise they are constantly in a meditative state. u are doing just fine, just stop looking for any rewards, let teh acts be rewards in themselves, and ....godspeed ! sorry, if u were waiting for any response from paulo and i just barged in, going by experince paulo may not participate. i shared what i felt like, if u like it thnaks, if u don't well leave it and ;-) love aditya Hi paulo

wasn’t Carlos Castaneda also a best selling author ?

Hi Jessica

“Now a huge question ..
Can we ever be fully trained and what happens then? Can we reach Nirvana, and is that the ultimate goal ?”

yup ! huge question indeed. there is no situation when anyone can say anything about being fully trained, no one can ever be, or u can be this very moment, just drop this insistance on knowing everything, accept that somethings may remain a mystery for ever and u r OK with it, such an accepatnce is not as innocuous as it seems, it is not possible without taking a huge blow to one’s ego.

u know nirvana is when u are not desiring even for nirvana, nirvana is when u are living each moment in heartfelt gratitude afterall most of us cannot ‘justify’ or own existnace ! it is grace bestowed on us.

dalai lama and all, yes they too set aside some time for meditation, that is mostly to enjoy some quietitude; otherwise they are constantly in a meditative state.

u are doing just fine, just stop looking for any rewards, let teh acts be rewards in themselves, and ….godspeed !

sorry, if u were waiting for any response from paulo and i just barged in, going by experince paulo may not participate. i shared what i felt like, if u like it thnaks, if u don’t well leave it and ;-)

love
aditya

]]> By: Savita Vega http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56379 Savita Vega Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:49:00 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56379 This story reminds me of the traditional element of the "zig-zag bridge" in Zen meditation-garden design. A zig-zag bridge is usually built of long planks (though sometimes of stone slabs) supported by posts. The planks are joined at right angles, such that at the end of every plank, the passer is required to make a sharp turn to the left or to the right. Furthermore, these types of bridges are generally very narrow and have no railings whatsoever. Thus, it is very easy for one who is not paying proper attention to simply walk right off the end of a plank and fall into the water. Because the elements in these gardens are functional (designed as aids to proper meditation) and not merely decorative, there is a logic behind the zig-zag bridge that transcends its sheer beauty. One who is passing over the bridge in walking meditation must remain one-pointed, completely focused on the here and now, lest they walk right off the end of a plank and tumble headlong into the water. For a beautiful photo: http://www.the-art-of-landscape-design.com/images/zig_zag_pier_japanese.jpg The zig-zag bridge, as it is employed in zen meditation gardens, is, I think, very reflective of that razor's-edge of the abyss which Julian had to walk, and ultimately, which we all have to walk if we are to become Warriors of the Light. One more interesting note, concerning the zig-zag bridge: It is also believed in many Eastern traditions that evil does not follow a straight path. Thus, the zig-zag bridge is also a sort of escape-hatch, just in case one is being chased by evil spirits or the like. While the attentive individual can pass, with ease, over the zig-zag bridge, the pursuing evil has no means of navigating such a path. It drops right off the edge, to be drowned in the waters below. Thanks for sharing this beautiful story with us, Paulo Coelho. With Love and Light! Savita Vega This story reminds me of the traditional element of the “zig-zag bridge” in Zen meditation-garden design. A zig-zag bridge is usually built of long planks (though sometimes of stone slabs) supported by posts. The planks are joined at right angles, such that at the end of every plank, the passer is required to make a sharp turn to the left or to the right. Furthermore, these types of bridges are generally very narrow and have no railings whatsoever. Thus, it is very easy for one who is not paying proper attention to simply walk right off the end of a plank and fall into the water. Because the elements in these gardens are functional (designed as aids to proper meditation) and not merely decorative, there is a logic behind the zig-zag bridge that transcends its sheer beauty. One who is passing over the bridge in walking meditation must remain one-pointed, completely focused on the here and now, lest they walk right off the end of a plank and tumble headlong into the water.

For a beautiful photo:
http://www.the-art-of-landscape-design.com/images/zig_zag_pier_japanese.jpg

The zig-zag bridge, as it is employed in zen meditation gardens, is, I think, very reflective of that razor’s-edge of the abyss which Julian had to walk, and ultimately, which we all have to walk if we are to become Warriors of the Light.

One more interesting note, concerning the zig-zag bridge: It is also believed in many Eastern traditions that evil does not follow a straight path. Thus, the zig-zag bridge is also a sort of escape-hatch, just in case one is being chased by evil spirits or the like. While the attentive individual can pass, with ease, over the zig-zag bridge, the pursuing evil has no means of navigating such a path. It drops right off the edge, to be drowned in the waters below.

Thanks for sharing this beautiful story with us, Paulo Coelho.

With Love and Light!
Savita Vega

]]> By: Alexandra http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56356 Alexandra Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:27:53 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56356 Very interesting.I noticed the power of fear,the approach of death forced the rebbel young man to behave in the propper manner.Also a great luck to encounter in the last moment the sorcerer.He chosed the right path in a moment of great importance.Never is too late,or better later than never Very interesting.I noticed the power of fear,the approach of death forced the rebbel young man to behave in the propper manner.Also a great luck to encounter in the last moment the sorcerer.He chosed the right path in a moment of great importance.Never is too late,or better later than never

]]> By: Mirela Baron http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56352 Mirela Baron Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:37:40 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56352 Thank you for This great Advice and help! It seems to be convenient to the moment energetic quality.It seems to be convnient to my own small and big dificulties . love Mirela(the woman in elevator) Thank you for This great Advice and help!
It seems to be convenient to the moment energetic quality.It seems to be convnient to my own small and big dificulties .

love Mirela(the woman in elevator)

]]> By: Lynne http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56336 Lynne Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:23:14 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56336 I so resonate with this story of the nagual Julian! I spent some time back in the seventies under the guidance of an Indian medicine man. I owned nothing and home was wherever I found myself in that moment. Solitary forays into the desert were part of my "training" ... I found Castenada's writing during that time too .... and it has continued to hold much meaning for me. I am reminded here of one of Don Juan's reminders to Casteneda ... to walk through life with Death sitting on his left shoulder, as his chief advisor. Having been diagnosed with a life-threatening illness provided me with exactly that ... the opportunity to come into a living relationship with Death ... allowing me to live this moment as if it is the last. I've found this to be KEY to staying in the NOW. Thanks for sharing nagual wisdom with us. I so resonate with this story of the nagual Julian! I spent some time back in the seventies under the guidance of an Indian medicine man. I owned nothing and home was wherever I found myself in that moment. Solitary forays into the desert were part of my “training” … I found Castenada’s writing during that time too …. and it has continued to hold much meaning for me.
I am reminded here of one of Don Juan’s reminders to Casteneda … to walk through life with Death sitting on his left shoulder, as his chief advisor. Having been diagnosed with a life-threatening illness provided me with exactly that … the opportunity to come into a living relationship with Death … allowing me to live this moment as if it is the last. I’ve found this to be KEY to staying in the NOW.
Thanks for sharing nagual wisdom with us.

]]> By: David Julian Xanatos http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56332 David Julian Xanatos Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:54:57 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56332 Awareness, attention... "The enormous length of the margin between life and death." Balance. Intent. I find meditating on Julian's statement enormously stilling and calming, thanks for bringing it to my awareness again from another source. Awareness, attention… “The enormous length of the margin between life and death.” Balance. Intent. I find meditating on Julian’s statement enormously stilling and calming, thanks for bringing it to my awareness again from another source.

]]> By: Pepper http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56329 Pepper Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:07:50 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56329 I read Castenada many years ago with great interest. Thank you for bringing his writing to my attention again as it will be good to pull some of his books out of my bookcase and reread! I read Castenada many years ago with great interest. Thank you for bringing his writing to my attention again as it will be good to pull some of his books out of my bookcase and reread!

]]> By: Heart http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56322 Heart Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:52:11 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56322 Talking about drinking and seducing women, or getting a second chance...let me write down a fun riddle (if I can remember it right), shows how often our weaknesses actually is more of a group thing than being an individuals. Be as sober as the Irish as technical as the Portuguese as amorous as the English as disciplined as the Italians and as humorous as the Germans... Attaching to the present moment helps, and God can turn our weaknesses into strengths and help us laugh a bit about being silly human beings full of shortcomings. Talking about drinking and seducing women, or getting a second chance…let me write down a fun riddle (if I can remember it right), shows how often our weaknesses actually is more of a group thing than being an individuals.

Be as sober as the Irish
as technical as the Portuguese
as amorous as the English
as disciplined as the Italians
and as humorous as the Germans…

Attaching to the present moment helps, and God can turn our weaknesses into strengths and help us laugh a bit about being silly human beings full of shortcomings.

]]> By: THELMA http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2008/10/15/the-nagual-elias-and-the-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-56318 THELMA Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:27:38 +0000 http://paulocoelhoblog.com/?p=1957#comment-56318 To live the present moment, remembering the mistakes of the past and with the new knowledge acquired during our journey to proceed full of energy, enthusiam and hope. To use our acquired Wisdom with the Love of our Heart in every instant for the .. rest of our Way, LIFE. A moment, a person or a sparkle, may act as a catalyst and we will become ..Golden, Light. LOVE, THELMA To live the present moment, remembering the mistakes of the past and with the new knowledge acquired during our journey to proceed full of energy, enthusiam and hope. To use our acquired Wisdom with the Love of our Heart in every instant for the .. rest of our Way, LIFE.
A moment, a person or a sparkle, may act as a catalyst and we will become ..Golden, Light.
LOVE,
THELMA

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