Does the master not suffer with bad disciples?

A disciple asked Firoz:

- The mere presence of a master causes all sorts of curious people to gather round, to discover something beneficial. Can’t this be a hindrance and negative? Can’t this divert the master from his path, or cause him to suffer because he could not teach that which he wished?

Firoz, the Sufi master, replied:

- The sight of an avocado tree laden with fruit whets the appetite of all those who pass by. If someone wishes to satisfy his hunger beyond his needs, he will eat more avocados than necessary, and will be sick. However, this causes no indigestion to the man who owns the avocado tree.

"It is the same with our Search. The path must be open to all; but it is for God to set the limits of each individual."

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Comments

  1. Petra says:

    We learn only by our mistakes and experiences. The master only makes us hungry, and shows where to look.

  2. twylah says:

    paul,

    i find your words inspiring. Thank you.

    “but faith, as we know, can move mountains, therefore the master, having faith in his or her God, does not need to suffer… because the scholar who has faith, will be guided by God to the light, whatever his/her capabilities…!?”

  3. Molly says:

    If many curious disciples gather around the master, then in that moment that arises that is the master’s path. You can’t change what is.

  4. Gail says:

    I do not agree with the statement that a god sets a limit upon each individual. Rather, it is the individual who sets their own limits and their own pace of learning. The Universe – or multiverse, depending upon one’s point of view, is there for each of us to discover. We decide how much of it we wish to know. What we cannot learn in our human existence can or may be learned when we become Spirit. Physical death does not mean we are incapable of continuing to learn; we just do it in a different manner.
    Also, I don’t understand the connection between gleaning wisdom from a master and eating avocados to the point of sickness.

  5. Mirela Baron says:

    Of cours he will suffer with bad dissciples!and he will do what he can to motivate them to end their bad acting!
    More than that, he will trust that God gide them and he will enjoy and concentrate more on the disciplinated discipless!And he will let the fruits to be reached from all who whant to eat!

    At the end he loves both!
    Thats why he is their Master!

    Love
    Mirela(the woman in elevator)

  6. Savita Vega says:

    I once spent six years as a member of an Ashram. The first day that I went there, I had no idea why I was there. I had never heard the word “guru.” I didn’t know what a disciple was. I certainly had no idea I would spend six nights a week for the next six years sitting at this man’s feet and listening to his teachings. This was but a brief time in comparison to how long some of the disciples had been there, primarily all of their adult lives, since the early seventies. Many would stay until their deaths. During this six years, I watched many people, hundreds in fact, drift in and drift out – some coming only once and never being seen again, others attending lectures for a few weeks or several months, a year or two. Each came as they were drawn. Each left when they were prompted, from within, to move on. The body of disciples before this Master was as a river flowing, ever changing. And yet he seemed not in the least bit affected. It was evident that he was not centered in his disciples – his ego was not invested in this endeavor – his sense of self was rooted in something far deeper and less transient. During these years I even witnessed several incidences where disciples became enraged or hostile, not because of anything that the Master had done precisely, but due to some sort of internal and generally inexplicable reaction they had toward some part of his teachings. Even in these moments, which were tense for the rest of us, the light within this man never flickered. He was like the rose giving off its sweet perfume, regardless of who the passer-by might be. He reacted not. And he never withheld his wisdom.

    Savita Vega

  7. THELMA says:

    To be able to look at the Sun, we must wear special glasses, so that we will not be blind. It is the paradygm of Deadalus and Ikaros, who flew too near to the Sun.
    The same applies to looking into the Truth, the Light! Our soul must be prepared, ready. The time for the Apocalypse, Revealation, is different for each one of us.
    LOVE,
    THELMA