Even though Freud and Jung disagreed on many points, one thing that emerges from twentieth century psychoanalysis is the fact that dreams go beyond their individual dreamers and often show patterns that are common to all cultures. Indeed, dreams are only partially rooted in consciousness and tend to reveal deeper parts of the human psyche.
One of the eldest books on dreams – the Oneirocritica «The Interpretation of dreams” – was written by the Greek thinker Artemidorus in the second century AD. In it he distinguishes between dreams that forecast the future and “allegorical dreams” that need interpretation.
Unlike Freud that reduced dreams to repression of infantile sexual experiences, Jung stated that besides these personal dreams, there was an unconscious collective dream, the very backbone of imagination. He saw then in dreams the manifestation of a certain truth that went beyond the dreamer, as if planted by a higher consciousness that he calls “the soul”.
Now you take the floor: what do you associate with dreams?
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I had another dream last night,it was bit confusing.I was in my school as a kid and in the sky i saw a strange thing like a vision again.A huge serpent ,i dunno if it was dragon or serpent but it was like snake for sure i mean i only saw it’s huge body almost covering half of the sky,it was as huge as sky.And it was crushing a beautiful peacock,a beautiful,if i have to say beautiful i mean really beautiful i don’t have words to describe its colors,light braight colors beautiful bright feathers.But that huge serpent was crushing that bird or peacock slowly ,as i was watching it, the serpent colied again and the bird was slowly dying it’s death,coz it couldn’t breath.The serpent was killing the peacock like a python killing it’s prey.Seeing this i called all the people,*oh what a horrible scene on the sky,see on the sky*,and all the people there ran to see the horrible scene.Just imagine seeing a beautiful creature being killed so mercilessly by a serpent.Later I thought of rescuing ,the bird so i try to bite the snake(dunno how i got into it’s tail and i could bite and hurt it to rescue the bird.But i got scared saying to myself when i realized that i could actually hurt that serpent *hey only eagle can kill that serpent, ,am i an eagle ??( i left the scene with the people,thinking to myself, fearing what if the serpent see me and attack me like the bird for bitting it’s body )and saying this i ran coz i was scared to see the scene.Dunno the meaning of this.Buti do know that peacock is a symbol of pride and snake is no less.I dunno who or what is taking too much pride that the serpent is angry and is trying to destroy it.( i dunno if it is related to a country or a person but i think according to my htought maybe country)Hmmm i still need to translate this dream later.
I woke up and again i slept,but i was scared by the dream.But in another dream,i was in this beautiful orchard,there were lines of trees,like it was in the previous dream.In the previous dream i had seen huge trees overlying the sky,and i thought i was again in the same place.But this time i was more like in a garden beautiful garden and was under a shade of a tree.Then God was at the far end of the row of trees and he was shaking the tree at the other end.But when he was shaking the tree at the end then all the trees in the rows even the tree under which i was taking the shade and was at the last end was shaking ,giving gentle breeze but i got scared and screamed*papa no,papa don’t shake it,didn;t u see the serpent on the sky before? what if it falls down on me?It will kill me*But he kept on shaking don;t know why but nothing fell on my head.
then suddenly infront of the tree under which i was sitting i saw a man bent down wearing a white cloth rather a satin cloth silky one.He didn;t show his face first,then slowly he raised his eye towards me and slowly i saw his face,i was speechless,again the same face the same holy and beautiful face.This is alawys the time why all the words in my dictionary runs out or fails to describe his face.Saying handsome beautiful and all earthly words sounds like disrespectful to describe so,with awe i watched him.He had that little long curly not exactly curly hair,and slowly in the air i saw this cross shinning cross ,i thought it was made up of some diamond or some priceless jewel ,or some shiny heavenly diamonds,it floated in the air and it went and fell just on his forheaad and he wore it like his crown and he gave that beautiful smile to me when he rose.My heart fell in love with him again.And only word came out from my mouth Jesus with a smile and a sigh.*Then i saw my own biological father digging out someone from the coffin and someone was instructing him ,you have to raise that coffin in certan perpendicular degree then this and that as if God was commanding him to do it coz only a vocie was telling him to dig that body out of that coffin.Hmm
am thinking about the dream whole day i dunno exactly what it means but i do have some ideas.
All my dreams have meaning and i know i can tranlsate it perfectly ,thats why God gives me,hmm i wonder If God shook those tres to send jesus and to rescue the bird or i dunno.But it was paradoxical dream,scary at first but so beautiful at the end,Whenever i see jeuss’ face,i just fall in love and his smile,even his smile can erase the sin i presume.
It is strange that this morning, I get to see that the Association of the Week is on Dreams. Strange, because I have been having a few dreams that got me thoughtful, and somehow worried. So maybe, I think, that this subtle coincidence is meant to make me think my dreams through.
Dreams are like suspended in a sphere outside space AND time and all dimension, and I do sometimes like to believe that, when we sleep, our souls leave our bodies to travel around and through this sphere, and things we see, feel, do, and hear in our dreams are pretty much what our soul sees, feels, does, and hears in the sphere. It is so uncommon to us, that very often we have a very narrow understanding of the dreams language, being in reality, our soul’s language, our soul’s words to us, to send us a message.
When we wake up, we realize that the memory we have of our dreams is not really what our dreams looked and felt like, but we have this taste they leave inside of us. Prophetic dreams I think are those when the soul, travelling through the sphere, gets to see something of the past or of the futre, there where there is no time and where all tenses are alike, and translates to us this vision in terms of dreams.
However, sometimes, the soul doesn’t travel too far, and only flows through our subconscious part in the sphere… and therefore our dreams can be explained rationnally quite easily.
What about naps’ dreams? they are precise, clear, and very very strange… in my culture they are said to have no meaning at all, for the only dreams that are heaven-sent are those we make before dawn. But I still wonder, for I made fabulous dreams just having a nap…
Another thing is creative visualization, this thing that happens to us when we are falling asleep, and images bombard our mind; surprisingly, when we consciously abondon ourselves to this flow of images, we are amazed to see images we could have never been able to imagine being fully awake.
Paulo, it’s amazing how perfectly timed your articles and books are to some events in my life. I just woke up from a nightmare which is based on an old memory i must have suppressed as a child and made me realize why i am afraid of certain things in my adulthood. My dream was quite literal, no interpretation needed. My dad being violent yelling at my mom and hitting something, me,instinctively stepping in to protect her. This happened a lot in my childhood, my mom always trying to stay neutral (which is just as bad as being on his side), until i grew a little older and they both turned on me. My dad never being there for me, always yelling, fighting with my mom. There was always the threat of violence..I guess I’ve suppressed it. And I woke up, and just like that it all became clear to me… my uneasiness around all adults growing up. It lasted into my adulthood. I realized that because I never had a relationship with my parents, I never learned how to interact with adults. Getting my first job was absolutely terrifying to me, because I was the youngest and people there in a way reminded me of my parents and I just didn’t know how to interact with them, and was unable to speak up in meetings. Even though I’ve come a long way, I still feel inadequate at work many times, no matter how much great feedback i get. I am now married to a wonderful guy who is nothing like my dad. And when we have kids there will be a lot of love going around, and no fighting. I am going to make damn sure of that.
Dreams are the sub tittles to our subconscious ..visualization I think is very important gift to us.Moving pictures take us through a series of begining middle and end. It helps emerge us in a state of understanding pushing us to think in different ways perhaps before we thought was impossible,it motivates inspires scares warns…I think the brain sponges in every thing u do and think during waking hours then when we rest it is able to weave all our thoughts into a motion picture…Our body is always busied not allowing us to take the time to hear the whispers of our protectors …
For me personally i like to call my dreams my inner portal..where my subconscious and soul take time out to call their friends enjoy, conversate.Have a gossip about what my brain has been up to all day..discus my life,desires so on …and because i dont understand these “friends” language they interperate it for me through picture subtitles .
My apologies for the silly typos, I haven’t blogged in some time. Ultimately they realy don’t matter, except for the book suggestion. The title is “Memories, Dreams, Reflections” I typed “Drams” and didn’t check before I sent off. There’s probably a Scotchman who would enjoy the other read though.
I always pick up great info every time I come here. And I always feel like a I have to leave something before I go — the sign of a fantastic forum. I will definately look into the “first” book on dreams that was mentioned to introduce this dialogue.
I haven’t read so much of Freud’s theory’s on dreams — but his concepts on the Id and the Super Ego must have been tied to an early version of the collective unconscious. Which autimacilly leads to his “student” Jung, who broke it all wide open, in my opinion. Someone mentioned way up high on this page somewhere that she intuits that her dreams precede the energy of the day to come. This wasn’t just intuition to Jung, he delved deep into this concept as part of his life’s work into the power of the sub-conscious. And to narrow it to a simple example, he once wrote that the common(everyone has had this one, I’m sure) dream scenario of being chased by some kind of “monster” in a dream scape csn signify that your sub-conscious mind is preparing your conscious mind for a pending illness, or serious stress related trauma. To say the least, Jung’s work on the dreaming mind was ground breaking. I often see the face of “the elder” in a slightly scary, but always enlightening dream. The Elder is one of many archetypes that appears as a guiding force to those that may feel a little lost in their every day routines. Many of the archetypes and symbols of Jung are exhaustively studied and passed on to us for that main resoan — to help guide us i our every day routines. Many of the comments I read on this page are understanding this fact, albeit in an intuitive, unconscious way. If you haven’t read Jung’s “Memories, Drams, Reflections”, you really should. It’s semi-biography/semi-theory and study. Incredibly fascinating.
As a sidenote, I always found it curious and incredibly humerous that when confronted with his younger colleage in one on one conversation, Freud would instantly nod off — what could Jung possibly be thinking when he witnessed this from across a table of tea and blintzes. What a great movie scene. Freud was probably older at that point and I’m not sure how acurate this telling historical anomally is, but it was something that I read once. Kind of cute acutually.
PEACE AND lOVE. Patrick
Edgar Cayce (The American Prophet): “For as has been given, often there is presented to every normal body those conditions through the subconscious forces of the sleeping state wherein truths are given, visions are seen of things to be warned of or that will be advantageous to the body, physically, mentally, morally, spiritually, and financially. Pay more attention to the dream of each and every one (connected to the work)!” Cayce’s dream readings suggested that dreams were to be interpreted through signs, direct messages, and symbols, all of which were derived from an indelible record registered in the subconscious mind of the dreamer and composed of everything that the dreamer had seen, read, heard, imagined, or experienced in their present life or previous lives. In other words, the language and imagery of an individual’s dreams were derived from his personal soul record, and as such, spoke only to that person. The dream’s message, however, came from a higher self, or the higher selves of others. According to the Source, messages could come from the grocery clerk at the market down the street, deceased family members, or Divine communications sent to protect or guide an individual. Understanding the message was only a matter of keeping the channel open, or recognizing that it existed in the first place. “Happy may he be that is able to say they have been spoken to through the dream or vision.”
Kathleen xx
I just had a question, it may bely my lack of in depth knowledge on ths topic (only 2nd year psychology student) but, do you think that yungs idea of the collective conscience could be simply just a biological and more specifically a neurological reaction to certain things or stimuli, that man ifests itself in the same way for every human due to brain chemistry. what i mean is that maybe the symbols he found that we share with other cultures and worldwide in our collective consciousness, maybe we share it cos that is just the way the human brain reacts to things and thats why the symbols or information are the same? does that make sense?? Im not very good at explaining it. But that idea in and of itself doesnot dismiss the implications or the meaning if the collective consciousness, simply aligns neuroscientific interpretation with other forms.
thankyou
They say eyes are reflections of the soul … dreams are probably reflctions of the real and unreal.
a state of awareness that binds the conscious mind with the subconscious. and because many people have prophetic dreams, I am sure that on that frecuency of the brain we are able to exist outside the matrix of time.
I once had a dream that covered 250 years. It was amazing and an inspiration to write a novel, which I have yet to do. You, however, are one of my greatest insprirations! I’m glad that we are living in the same lifetime . . .
Dreams are the travel of the spirit through other kind of experiences. Haven’t you notice that many times after dreaming all night you woke up tired?
Dreams are a spiritual school, as Doreen Virtue sais in one of her books. I find this quite interesting. That means our spirit do not sleep (only the body sleeps). Sould don’t need phisical slep, sould need other kind of rest (pray, peace, happiness, optimism; positive feelings relax and rest the soul, mostly meditation and pray; and I absolutely believe the soul do not sleep during night and has countinuous activity and transformation).
And I am also a psychology…:) I just like to see more, over psychology teaches us all, Freud or Jung…
Yes, a SCHOOL is my answer.
my opinion is : The dreams are expressions of many thinks of things that it manifestation in the night… worried, ideas, or fastening that follow in the day or back days…excuseme mi ingles.
I have found that if I have a bad day… I have bad dreams.
Nice, sunny day, then my dreams are pretty good or I dont dream at all… pesky nightmares are always gonna pop up, but cest la vie!
I have consrns but my dreams just wande off to where I at least expect, me cuenta historoas de passion y de demencia me hacen sentir y vivir. I live off my dreams . they make me create and u??
My adult dreams are always an indication of my deepest concerns, the kinds of things that I shove aside in the day. They are not matter-of-fact, symbolism is rife, but my dreams are still plain to me.
My adolescent dreams were vivid and full of music and art and love: they were my escape from an ugly world.
Dreams are an escape valve, a diary, canvas, sieve, and internet(internal networking) of all things past and possible.
Dreams…
Personally, I think it is the space that sometimes allows me to make sense of circumstance/events in my life, particularly, when I do not have all the information to understand a given situation and my roll in it.
Dreams have also provided me with insights about events happening in the near and sometimes not so near future… insights about circumstances, surrounding events and outcomes but none of them have come at will.
So i would say that dreams may be useful tools to gain insights and address whatever we need to… at least to our own self.
Dreams are vital. They help us to live. It´s a trend to exist, to work hard and to fit in, but dreams tell us which way we should go, what we really want. They show us our fears, our hopes,what we really want. And we must learn to believe in them than to supress them. Only then its possible for us to be happy.
Forgot to mention that there are also every day dreams, dreams which have a longer purpose for a person, or daily dreams, to the aside of those dreams we have in nights, when we sleep.
But there are also two types of dreams of daily life: personal dreams, which we want to happen for us… but also different dreams that we want to happen to others. For if a person is truly happy and accepts life as it is, they can also be happy for others! And in this I don’t mean the things when people “force” you to take over their dream, but we also want to believe that other peoples lives should also be enhanced and lightened. We want others around us be and feel as good as we do (if we do).
savita , savita ,
In February, 2006, after 4 years when my husband left (cancer and moral sufferings) I said: ” god, maintaining I am ready; I leave some days and if you want to send me somebody, it is the moment I think ”
The days of congès pass and arrive the day of the departure; I say myself: ” check, it is because it was not the moment, nevertheless I had felt in me that an important meeting was going to be made ” 5 minutes before the departure, a man approaches me and say to me ” I perceived you recently,And I looked you everywhere, he held a word the hand that he absolutely wanted to give me, I said ” thank you, but there I cannot stay any more, I have to leave ” and it was our meeting in 8000kms by (and we are all 2 French!!)
sometimes you see, the fate ( maktub ), in 42 years soon, I say ” nothing is fate… ”
( And often I open a page of a book, and often it corresponds to what I wait; and recently I showed Paulo Coelho’s book ” maktub ” in m., and I said to her that often the page that I ‘m opening at random corresponded to the present fact, I said to her: ” you see what have just taken place with P. and L., I think that if I open a page, it will illustrate this fact and it is what what took place …I make it for me too with the Bible
Février 2006 , après 4 ans que mon mari soit parti ( cancer et souffrances morales ) j’ai dit : ” dieu , maintenant je suis prête ; je pars quelques jours et si vous voulez m’envoyer quelqu’un , c’est le moment je pense ”
les jours de congès passent et arrive le jour du départ ; je me dis : “bon , c’est que ce n’était pas le moment , pourtant j’avais senti en moi qu’une rencontre importante allait se faire ”
5 minutes avant le départ , un homme s’approche de moi et me dis ” je vous ai aperçu l’autre jour , et je vous ai cherché partout , il tenait un mot à la main qu’il voulait absolument me donner , j’ai dit ” merci , mais là je ne peux plus rester , je dois partir …” et ce fut notre rencontre à 8000kms d’ici ( et nous sommes tous les 2 français !! )
Parfois tu vois , le destin ( maktub ) , à 42 ans bientôt , je dis “rien n’est hasard …”
( et souvent j’ouvre une page d’un livre , et souvent elle correspond à ce que j’attends ; et l’autre jour j’ai montré le livre “maktub” de Paulo Coelho à m., et je lui ai dit que souvent la page que j’ouvrai au hasard correspondait au fait présent , je lui ai dit : “tu vois ce qui viens de se passer avec P. et L. , je pense que si j’ouvre une page , elle illustrera ce fait …et c’est ce qui s’est passé … je le fais pour moi aussi avec la bible depuis
enfant , et durant de nombreuses années , j’ai fait le rêve d’être un oiseau et je voyais et je ressentais le voyage …la liberté , les sensations , le bonheur , etc
sur le chemin de St jacques en décembre 2008 ,” l’oiseau ” a été un élément important sur ma route , notamment le 27/12 , guide etc , qu’associez – vous à l’oiseau ? ( merci Paulo )
Child, and during numerous years, I made the dream be a bird and I saw and I felt the journey the freedom, the sensations, the happiness, etc.
On St jacques ‘s road in December 2008, ” the bird ” was an element mattering on my road, notably 27/12, guides etc., which associate – you to the bird? (Thank you Paulo)
I have a dream about piece in the whole world, because humans are all nice people. I love them all, because i belive them, and think we all are able to take care of this beutyfull earth, when we are kind too each other and understanding that the true energy of this world is the power of the sun and the water.
I think dreams are a way of expression, your feelings, your desires.. But I think it is a way to experience the spiritual world also. Of course you get dreams were you do things like fly and drive – I love those kind of dreams! But lately I’ve had dreams which makes me believe that there is more to sleeping then just the concious or subconcious mind at play, that it could be a way to a higher spiritual level… Complicated to explain!
I have experienced, through dreams, something I can’t explain to an average person, because they would think I am a bit coo-coo in the head. (They might think I am crazy). In fact, I have experienced some dreams, which show me an situation or happening, ahead of time. And then when in future, it will happen, I have this weird feeling in me. And at the same time, on some level I know this has happened to me before. Although, I never know when exactly will it happen, because sometimes it can be a few days, sometimes a year, or so. But I always get a flashback (pictures or feelings what I had while having this dream).
And I believe people do have some “collective concious” though them. I don’t know if the dreams work in the same way for people, but I do believe they definitely affect our knowledge.
I believe in many things that some people would laugh at, but I believe that is my right.
Actually, I had this odd dream a while ago, about Mr. Coelho. I saw that we were walking in some old town, Mr. Coelho, his wife and me… and there were some people trying to shoot at Paulo, but I grabbed his sleeve and the bullet merely passed him. I still don’t know what that meant, but maybe someday I will get an enlightement.
I see dreams every night, and I look them up most of the mornings when I wake up. I believe in dreams and I know they have an effect on me… I think it’s a tunnel to something good for me, because those dreams tend to make me be more concious about my self, my choices, my life. Sometimes when I need it, they give me comfort, sometimes when I need help to know what to do in life, I get it shown by a dream etc.
Maybe some will think I am crazy now. :) That is Your right. And who knows, maybe I am. :D
Have a great week, all!
Well,I tell u my favourite dreams.I love when I drive a car without licence.Is really great…Another is flying.On plane.The next is when I am a famous singer.And last but not least,when a kind man is holding me in his arms,protecting me.
“Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly…
Hold fast to dreams
for when dreams go
Life is a barren field
Frozen with snow…”
Some believe dreams are meaningless bits and pieces of imagination that manifest themselves in sleep and have no meaning to offer the dreamer. I’d agree that dreams are assimilated from innumerable fragments and often well guised, but I’m also convinced that nothing stored within and/or revisited in slumber by our subconscious is ever without significance and/or meaning. I think, instead, that dreams are our minds’ avenue for sorting and resolving… it is only that the facets which comprise them often flit past our conscious minds so swiftly we fail to take full notice that renders their resurrection in dreams so mystifying.
The human mind is fascinating in that regard… not one of the billions upon billions of interfaces brought to it by any or all of our sensory messengers goes unnoticed and/or unrecorded within the confines of its conscious or subconscious memory banks.
Dreams, I suspect, are constructed from all of the materials our subconscious stores when our conscious mind is too busy to deal with them; they are the progeny of orphaned input initially denied a conscious “say” in the matter of life. However, for a plethora of possible reasons, they demand to be reckoned with… most often when the conscious mind reposes in quiet surrender to somnolence. Whether they come to us as nightmares, seemingly nonsensical sceneries, or sweet ventures of the unconscious kind, every dream has a story to tell. Each, I believe, is a manifestation of desires, pleasures, pain, fears, etc. of which we’re not consciously fully cognizant. When any of their number recur, be they good dreams or bad… is they that are most insistent upon conscious recognition and some form of reckoning…
“Come the demons from our dreams,
Question truths from which life springs
Where all the answers that we seek
Lie deep inside a veil of sleep.
And the darkness dancing through this plain
Obliterates life’s remains
An empty shell is all we own
Still searching for that one way home.
Confusion, now, must reign supreme
Come the demons from our dreams
Alone, we pray to understand
To know the truths of God and man…”
P.S. At this note I’ve used a poems of one very dear friend of mine…
Dreams are advisers of my soul.
Dreams are prayers to God waiting to be answered
Dreams are signs waiting to be unraveled
Dreams are what we use to communicate to the Universe
Dreams are events drifting in the subconscious or collective unconscious atmosphere waiting to be brought into the NOW.
Dreams are like babies in a mother’s belly waiting for her to give birth.
Dreams are what keep many alive from becoming the walking dead
Dreams are meant to have
Dreams are meant to shared
Dreams are mystical
******Dream the impossible and see it become possible*******
i think that jung had an eye for something that most people didn’t even have an awareness of. he had seen self through eyes that were inside him, but ones that had opened up in his dreams. i dare to say that he had to open and close his eyes many a time to enable him to finally see his awareness, be his awareness, and then become his dream(s).
freud was a pirate..he only had one eye to view the world and the soul with (only a joke!!)
but dreams are like the stars. they move, the live, they die, the burn out. they make us toss and turn, throw our imaginations to wild corners of ourselves, and then when we are in our waking state, we want to capture them with the telescopes of our eyes. we want to dissect them, polish them and remember them. pin them down and put them in little glass containers so that we can stare at them all day.
i think dreams are the things we dare to reach for when we have nothing to lose. dreams are the places we go when we have nowhere else to be. when nothing ties us down, and when nothing holds us back.
i wish that every soul would be a dreamer.
xxxx
Somebody send me that e-mail at the beginning of this year, I like to share with you.
“After serious consideration…your contract of friendship has been renewed for the year 2009.
It was a very hard decision to make.
My wish for you.
May peace break into your house and may thieves come to steal your debts.
May the pocket of your jeans becomes a magnet of money.
May love stick to your face like Vaseline and may your laughter assault your lips.
May your clothes smell of success like smoking ties and may happiness slap you across the face and may your tears be that of joy!
May the problems you have, forget your home address!
In simple words, may these year be the best one of your life.”
May all your dreams come true
Love to all.
It’s the willpower of our subconcious mind. Jung I supposed. Each dream represents something significant in our life. Sometimes we are not even aware of the significant thing in our life until our dreams happen. If we study our dream carefully I believe it can guide us through our life.
The thing is, if dream is something much deeper then why do we keep forgetting it?
one night i dreamed of my mother-in-law (who had passed away about six months earlier) who told me that someone was going to give me a baby boy and that i should not refuse. few nights later i dreamed the same dream, with her reminding me again of the gift. she said it was going to be a boy. i just had a baby a year earlier at 41, thus i thought i would be crazy to have another one. one month later someone did offer me a baby boy, which of course left me with no choice. the baby boy is now going to be 7 years old, just started his elementary school two weeks ago, and indeed he is one of the greatest gifts God has ever given to me.
In Islam, we believe there are two parts of us, the physical (jasad) and the soul (ruh). The two parts communicate through dreams. And since ruh is a manifestation of God, this is how God communicates to you.
I teach groups regularly on the topic of basic Hypnosis and its modern day applications. Luckily the qualification I gained also incorporated psychoanalysis as the back bone for our work… so I got to study dream interpretation also, along with Freud and Jung, and many more of the fathers.
Back to the point… each time I teach the group, a different group every time, the topic of premonition dreams always appears. This happened last Sunday for instance and will probably next Sunday. As a professional I cannot say, “yes,” because I must always think of my job and other people in the room. I do not say “no” either because I cannot put down peoples beliefs. What I did last Sunday is take the Alchemist book from my teacher’s bag and said, “This is the realm of spiritualism. We are talking the science of hypnosis today!”
Funny I just watched a video today with a real interview with C.J. Jung, he spoke of his experience and how he first discovered the collective unconscious, interesting, I was looking for a sign only 30 minuets ago.
I always thought that dreams are a collection of pictures, mostly symbolic, that represent things in our unconsciousness, in the depths of our souls… That the dream state is a state of mind in which you’re (almost) having an out-of-body experience, and in contact with other dimensional layers.. It might be the only real psychic state that everybody on this planet experiences…
hello again mr paulo coelho
my association would be like Jung.
i think dreams are subconscious definitions of who we are.
I distinguish between:
* dreams as resolvers in our inner conflicts
* premonitory dreams …
in size dreams in which we are only soul … and we are deprived of our defensis, we can get in touch with other souls and so we talk to our loved ones are dead and we discovered things to our future …
I’m sorry for my english…
i’ve been having lots of crazy dreams lately. and i’m starting to realize that my soul or inner knowledge is trying to tell me or teach me something. unfortunately, i’m running to get to work so i don’t stop to think about them and really pay attention to the lesson. alot of times i dream about the things i fear the most. but if you don’t confront your fears, you will never get over them, so i’m glad i have those types of dreams. i don’t see my dreams as a prediction of the future but more of a reminder of the past. people i’ve met or places i’ve been.
I am one of the lucky lucid dreamers, and I’ve used some of those dreams to explore my fears as well as my hopes and dreams. I’ve also been lucky enough to meet one of my angels in some dreams, and her messages change me. They Lighten my heart and spirit. They are a window into knowing myself in a deeper and truer way. I don’t know exactly what they are, but they feel like gifts and blessings. Even the nightmares, which help me see and face the darker parts of my life. What safer way to face them but in a world where my angel is actively and visually by my side and where I am the author and director.
I think that when we dream we are there living that moment. It is happening to us in an alternate reality. Dreams lay careful clues for us to follow and sometimes allow us to communicate with people that we normally would not be able to contact. Sometimes I dream that I am speaking to my father, who died 10 yrs ago, and we are talking about current and relevant things in my life. I believe that this is a way for him to still be in my life and take care of me as a father the way that he would have in life.
to elisabeth delage
i’ve had dreams where i wake up and know, that i just had the answer i need (the switch), but i can’t remember it…! so close, but just not to be fixed. again and again i had this whilst looking for the switch to the light in my life.
an incredible thing about dreaming, is that you know the history of your character!
i also say there are different types of dreams, like many of you have said.
to Savita Vega
thanx for this line: “Let go, and let God….” I am not the one in control here – God is. (This is waaaaayyyy beyond me.)
when there are so many coincedences – it’s so obvious, you’re not in charge. i’ll try and keep that one a bit more present.
love
heidi
so I associate with dreams my thoughts. what i’m thinking about, especially before i sleep, my plans, what i’m afraid of, or what i want most of all. this is my association. also sometimes dreams are some signals about something that you’re waiting for and may happen.
i have a strange one
over many years, as of the age of 14, i sporadically dreamd of a kind of darkness. but it was often more a feeling. i would conciously shake myself awake, then turn on the light a give myself a minute. as i grew older, i’m now 36, i had a phase were i had the guts to have sex with this strange darkness, instead of shaking myself awake. but the last phase was so, that i would dream that i shake myself awake and then the light would’nt go on. soon i realised, i wasn’t waking up. then, in the real life, i had something with a man i truely loved and something happend between us; know we are no longer able to speak. no understanding, no making up, no posibility to just be friends. darkness. and i’ve been looking for the light switch for two years. i lost god in myself. this experience sent me on a journy through spirituality – a step further on the path i was already on. funny thing is. as soon as i fell into darkness in the real world, the darkness dreams stopped alltogether. it hasn’t been long, but i have found light again. maybe because i knew, that there’s a switch?
i kinda believe dreams are possible messages we give ourselves as gifts from home. real home.
love
heidi
Dreams serve many purposes:
Firstly to organize our brains by sorting and filing information;
Secondly dreams are what we make of them, we will see in them what we want.
Thirdly it’s a visualisation tool, i.e. we have to dream it before we can do it.
If we are healthy, we are also able to tap into the collective consciousness where all the information gained by our forefathers, ourselves and people not yet born is stored. This information, I believe, can only be accessed by lowering our brain waves.
And lastly I also believe that we can have out of body experiences when our brain waves are lowered.
Or maybe this life is a dream…
yes they are very powerful dreams and what we are being told by our own soul or by our angels or God herself .dreams are very Goddess for its in the night ,that we dream best when our emotions come out to play and our question,desires,doubts all get answered just like a answering machine really ..we just have to replay the message and write it down to understand and unlock our creative forces and powers ..its a good thing to wake up and write straight away a few pages of anything ..at all, what ever comes ,,try it sometimes ~~youll be amazed at what comes out ..Have fun dreaming ..get a whiteboard for your room and colour it in each day ,by drawing a picture or words when u wake up ..
Love and light Tania sweet dreams :-)
well i sure hope my dreams won’t come true. i only get nightmares. and the last vivid nightmare was that of being raped. you wake up and then you feel crap the whole rest of the day.
mmm such a profound question, i am afraid i still have not found the complete answer to your question. at least, not now… not in this age. ;p
dreams, to me are inspirations… thoughts, feelings, emotions that keep me going, lift my spirit up. sometimes dreams can be a sort of vision or even imagination, which are the fruit of how/what we feel/think about… the fruit of the things that occupy our minds.
Several unrelated (maybe) things I’d like to address:
First, to Grace:
When I read your post, the first thing that popped into my mind was past lives. I don’t know why I thought of this – you didn’t mention anything of the sort – and of course, I don’t know how you feel about the idea, but have you considered that there might be some sort of “karmic tie” between you and this man, some past-life business as yet unfinished? Perhaps you knew one another as children in some previous life and actually lived out these events of which you each dreamt. Again, I don’t know why this idea came to me so strongly when I read your post, but it did. Something about the way you spoke of “the present portion” of your dreams, in opposition to the past. In constructing and analyzing pieces of creative writing, writers often speak in terms of “present action” vs. flashbacks or past action (which may include action that took place before the lives of the characters from whose perspective the story is written). Anyway, somehow, the way you relate these dream events reminds me of that: there is present action (the portion of the dream which stems from your knowing one another in the present) and then there is this regression to some distant past (a childhood in which you both seem to have been acquainted with one another.) Seems to me this “past” in your dreams could represent a regression to another childhood altogether, a childhood from a previous life in which you were acquainted with one another. Just a suggestion. But of course, take this with a grain of salt: if it doesn’t seem to ring true to you, pay no attention to my suggestion at all.
Secondly, an incident of peculiar “coincidence” (synchronicity) that occurred this very morning. I awoke, and was about to log on to this blog, but first decided to read a little passage in the Bible. Often I do this, at different times throughout my day, usually at least once a day – I open the Bible at random and, with my eyes closed, point to a passage. This morning, with a question in my mind about the current situation between myself and the man I’ve been seeing (Mr. X), I opened the Bible like this and read: “Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:” (Matt 1:24). This didn’t really strike me as being particularly astonishing until I logged on and went to respond to this weeks free association, which I had glanced at already but already had forgotten what it was. When I saw the subject again – DREAMS – I took a deep breath. Somehow, in some strange and virtually inexplicable way, it is all connected: the question I had in my mind when I opened the Bible, the passage I read about Joseph’s dream, this post on Paulo’s blog suggesting dreams as the topic of the week, and this strange dream I had myself back in early December, and, then add to that, the fact that I am sitting here, in this very moment, listening to Mr. X sleeping (and perhaps dreaming) in the very next room! I is almost too much “coincidence” for the mind to grasp. It is beyond mere coincidence, in fact – it is the magic and the mystery of synchronicity!
Lastly, I recently had a rather amazing dream myself: It was the night of December 9th. I can’t recall the details of the dream at all, but that next morning I awoke from sleep, walked directly into the bathroom, and as I stood in front of the mirror brushing my teeth, this dream came back to me: I had dreamt of my high school sweetheart (the Mr. X mentioned above), whom I had dated, off and on, from the time I was fourteen, until I was twenty-two. Since that time, over the span of the past twenty years, I had had no contact with him at all, hadn’t even laid eyes on him. He was, way back when, indisputably, the “love of my life.” And yet, considering the fact that I hadn’t seen him, heard from him, or even heard news of him in so very long, and in light of how far down the road I had come in my own life since that time, it just seemed strange to me that, out of the blue, I should suddenly dream of him. Again, I couldn’t remember the details of the dream. I just knew that I had dreamt of him, and, as I stood there in front of the mirror, trying to wake up, this strong sense of his presence in my sleep suddenly came rushing in upon me. I thought to myself, “That’s odd! I wonder why I would dream about X like that after all these years.” That morning was the 10th of December. That afternoon, around 3:00, I went to the grocery store to pick up a few random items, and who should I meet, right there in the middle of the ice cream aisle, but my high school sweetheart, twenty years older but looking very much the same under a few wrinkles and a few added pounds. Instantly there was this enormous magnetism between us as though we had never been apart one single day, much less twenty years, an attraction so strong on every level (mental, physical, spiritual) it was like someone throwing a match on a bonfire built of straw and dry kindling. Instantly there was a blaze between us to reach the ceiling and beyond. We’ve been in one another’s arms almost without pause ever since. In fact, right now, as I sit at the bar in the kitchen writing this, I can hear him in the other room, snoring gently, ever so sweetly, and I remain in absolute awe of the dream that foretold his return into my life. I’m still not sure I understand it – I mean, I don’t know what to make of such a dream, I don’t know what it “means” precisely – but the way I take it is as a sign that, wherever this is leading and whatever the ultimate outcome of this reconciliation, the Divine has a hand in this. In a sense, having had that dream prior to meeting him again helps me not to cling too tightly or try try to force some particular outcome of my own choosing. The phrase that seems most appropriate and which keeps ringing in my own mind is: “Let go, and let God….” I am not the one in control here – God is. (This is waaaaayyyy beyond me.)
Sometimes the circumstances of our lives transcend what is small and “real” and logically fathomable. When this occurs, we enter into a realm that is, I think, somewhat akin to dream-time. I’ve had this happen to me before, several times in my life, and the only way that I can begin to define it is by analogy: it is like, in “The Wizard of Oz,” when the curtain of illusion is suddenly drawn back and the Oz himself, the Controller behind the curtain, is dramatically and ever so vividly revealed. In these moments, we can do nought but stand there in awe and amazement and utter humility. There is no way out but to recognize and acknowledge that there are forces at work in our lives which are greater than we are. And yet these “forces,” however we may define them – as “energies,” as deities, or whatever – are not contrary to nor segregated from our own innermost dreams and desires. After all, our own individual soul is but a mirror of the Divine.
Love to all…
and best wishes in interpreting and living your wildest innermost dreams!
Sincerely,
Savita
un rêve …… NON ! ! Une réalité en mouvement
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Qu’est ce qui peut réunir les Hommes , si ce n’est l’ AMOUR.
En effet , il est et il vit en CHACUN de nous.
Il est le point commun de chacun d’entre nous , où que nous soyons.
Ainsi il peut réunir , et ainsi il peut former une UNITé INDISPENSABLE à notre monde d’aujourd’hui , DANS LE PRéSENT DE CHAQUE JOUR , DANS VOTRE PRéSNT ( libéré du passé )
A dream …… NOT!! A reality in movement
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That what is what can combine the People, if it is not the LOVE.
Indeed, it is and he lives in EACH of us.
It is the common point of each of us, wherever whom we are. So he can gather(combine), and so he can form a UNITY INDISPENSABLE to our current world, IN THE PRESENT OF EVERY DAY, IN YOUR OWN PRESENT (freed from past )
The love of humanity
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The humans being have to recognize in THEIR COMMON humanity with their differences , their race , their religion , their ideas.
All together in the same love… It’s possible if you believe it .
The love of humanity
One of my example :
At the house, the day of my birthday, we took a photo: a ball constituted by our collected hands where all the skin colours get involved = a ball of love, as the “earth”, where our tight hands the some against the others formed the same love, that of all the people (because it is indeed that we are all: a man, a woman and it doesn’t much matter the skin colour, because behind each of us there is a soul which love ) And that is the more important ! ! !
So a dream can be realized ! ! ! yes i hope
and you + you + you + you + all together : yes , it’s possible
Because LOVE can be THE UNITY of all
Dreams were a fixation of mine for quite a few years as I went through a stage of having dreams that came true. The first of these came true down to the last detail. I saw a friends house that I’d never known, I described to her the set out of the rooms the colourings, that in the dream she had her 30th birthday and there were people in it that I was yet to meet but met a couple of months after the dream. I was correct with all of the details, including the fact that she had turned 30 on the day of the dream and I had no prior knowledge of this.
I’ve had so many others, like conversations that have gone on between siblings that I heard in my dream even though the conversation was being held on the other side of the country.
So then I became fixated with dreams and why we have them. What is their purpose. I actually ended up spending too much time pondering it and ended up confusing myself. In the Bible there are many dreams that have meaning but I think God also warns that we don’t take them always too seriously because – like superstitions – we could end up taking them too literally.
What I agree on is that I think they are a mixture of things. Sometimes it is like each of us has an inbuilt radio and at night time because we are relaxed with no worries or thoughts our little antennae on our head go up and we receive radiowaves of information of whatever is happening in the world, snippets of conversations that we then code into symbols.
1. We have prophetic dreams.
2. Symbolic dreams that we are meant to think on and learn from.
3. Warning dreams – like that foreboding feeling of getting on that plane.
4. Dreams that are lessons i.e. I’d read about a man who was verbally abusive to his wife and had a dream that made him feel what it was like to be on the other side.
5. And just an emptying of thoughts of general stuff in our day to day lives.
I definitely think there is more to dreams than most people believe.
Kathleen (sorry for the long post) xxoo
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