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ALSO I am looking forward to the Swedish translation of “The winner takes it all”.. I dont see your book release in Sweden so I think maybe I get through it in english.
Thank you
Interestíng and something I thought a lot of about forgive and forget. Personally I think the only way to be able to be free from pain is to come to foregivness to what or whom that has hurt you.
In my life just now its about to tell this person who have hurt us bad that we know what she has done and we turn away from her now. I belive everybodys actions are in love or in fear, and this person is afraid and acting in fear and we cant have that in our lifes when it hurts us so bad, it hurts all in our family.
It is the only way for me to do so but I dont expect this person to understand causes of my action. But I have contributed in ways to let the person get an understanding of what she has done and which effect it has have. And I dont act in fear to get even I dont do my best to hurt back.
But I dont forget what I have forgiven, forgive dont haft to mean forget. To forgive is to release my self from all of the neagative feelings I carry about someone/something. That I dont will forget dont mean that I will hold it against the one that I have emotionally released/forgiven. To dont forget is a way of carry around a good lesson that can help me in other times in my life.
Thank You…
Dearest Paulo,
Thank you for the information. I will check your agenda regularly.
I’m looking forward to the release of your new book here :)
I hope you have a lovely day :)
Thank you for being
Yajna
Karen thanks for your response. I also agree with you about the energy, i too believe that, energy encompasses everything, positive/negative, male/female, yin/yang…
But the Trinity of the church is such a Patriarchal view, it just doesn’t make sense! At all!
I didn’t understand all what you were trying to say in your second post, perhaps i will join that site you were talking about!
Thank you Alexandra!
love.
I usually forgive before being hurt. Once hurt, I will never forget.
I am now on page 226 of “The Pilgrimage.” Now I see what I thought this tradition might be (I never read ahead), the order of the Knights Templar, and I feel drawn into catholism again, oops. I am already feeling concerned that I revealed my personal path through different religions on this blog. I have felt so safe here and I really want to continue to believe that I am but a flag has just gone up for me. The world even now seems to be in holy wars again. The Christians, Jews and Muslims all colliding. What stops holy wars? Forgiveness? I would hope a deeper understanding of the past, but at this point I wonder if that is even enough. If our online communities are giant databases then what stops someone from using them for harm and not good. The two bottom lines in life are fear and love. I will always try to choose love, and will just hope that others will do the same. Oh well, I guess I’ll just have trust this community and I’ll also finish the book.
Dearest Paulo and friends,
I have just two really important questions and if you or anyone else can answer them i’d really appreciate it:
1) i saw your agenda, as a link from you offical website, that: EVENTS APRIL 2009
The Winner Stands Alone in Russia, US, UK, France, Holland, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Greece, Lebanon, Australia, India and South Africa.
I was just wondering, is this going to be for the release of the book or are you visiting this places as well? (If you say you’re visiting SA i will be the most estatic person in the world :) )
2) There is a prayer you wrote on doubt. You always tell the story of how you picked it up one day on the street and you were suprised and joyful as you read your own words. I am at a time in my life where i just feel i need to read it again. Could you please post it up or email me or something? or anyone please put it up… For some reason i can’t stop thinking of reading that in particular again.
Thank you for being
Yajna
PS is there an agenda on this website? there was one before but i can not seem to find it.
Dear Yajna,
thank you for the message.
I will not be going to all the countries mentioned where the book will be released.
I do consel you though to keep track of the next trips through the agenda on my website (paulocoelho.com).
Much love
Paulo
More about Severn Cullis Suzuki’s work in English
http://www.time.com/time/2002/greencentury/engeneration.html
Building a just society
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rights-and-freedoms/023021-1300-e-html
en francais :
http://www.collectionscanada/gc.ca/droits-et-libertes/index-f-html
and painters :-) LOL
Hola Rosa de los Vientos
Quiero perdirla un favor.
Quiero saber si puedes poner la video de la hija de David Suzuki,
Severn Cullis Suzuki – la nina que lo dia una leccion muy grande a la ONU – en la conferencia de Medioambiante y Desarollo en Rio de Janeiro en 1992 en este parte del blog de Paulo por favor?
Yo ve este video en su “My Space” ayer.
Creo que es importante.
Muchas gracias con la ayuda.
Con amor,
Marie-Christine
Hi Rosa de los Vientos,
I want to ask you a favor.
Is it possible for you to put the video of David Suzuki’s daughter
Severn Cullis Suzuki -the 13 years old girl who gave a big lesson to the ONU- at the Rio de Janeiro 1992 Summit onto that section of Paulo’s blog please?
I saw this video on your “My Space” yesterday.
I believe it a “must viewing”
Thank you for your help.
With love
Bonjour Rosa de los Vientos,
Je viens te demander un service.
Est-ce que tu peux mettre la video de la fille de David Suzuki, Severn Cullis Suzuki – la fillette qui a donne une grande lecon a l’ONU – au sommet de Rio de Janeiro en 1992 – alors qu’elle n’avait que 13 ans – sur cette part du blog de Paulo, s’il te plait?
J’ai vu cette video sur ton “My Space” hier.
Je crois que c’est important qu’on en prenne connaissance.
Merci pour ton aide.
Avec amour,
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I am afraid somebody might get angry.I also have some questions.How can anybody explain the miracle made by the profet Muhammad,I refer to the fact he satisfied the sexual lust of 6000 soldiers?That thing really make me intrigued.
The Virgin Mary. She is mother of Jesus.And Paulo Coelho in his books make a likn between the Christian image and other important figures,as the Great Mother, a feminine Divinity from other cultures, the goddess from byzantine origin Sofia and so on.The most interesting I guess he made in the book”The Alchemist”, giving the name Fatima to the nomad girl that love Santiago.Is the name of an revelation of three little kids, shepherds ,at the beginning of 2oC,the Virgin Mary gived them some misteries about the world.But in Islam I guess is the name of a girl of the profet Mohamed.Sorry if some names I did nor spell well.I think is to show through coincidentia oppositorum,that is a principle that means the contraries that meet,and restore the initial balance,that we all drink from the same spring,the words of Jung.And Coelho sustain the idea of the feminine side of God, and make sense,because we all think it has no sex,is not man or woman,is Light and Love.And if we believe we,as Adam and Eve were made after the semblance of God,we can see the point,that is both man and woman are two parts of a whole.
I really cant say for sure how things stands,but the idea of a Great Mother I met reading about symbols in books of historians of religions.I would tell more,but actually I work at an essay about some connections I noticed.Hope I did not wrote any wrong information.Love
Alexandra
Forgiving and forgetting are 2 things that are hard to achieve, it usually doesn’t come easily. It depends on how deeply the person hurt you or vice versa. One thing is for sure though, I don’t believe in forgiving and forgetting. Getting hurt is like creating cracks on a crystal glass. You can try to glue the cracks to prevent it from breaking, but it only stops the glass from breaking, it never really heals itself. That is how i see forgiveness, you just add glu to the damage, but the damage is still there, and will always be there so be careful not to hurt anyone.
Santosh Kalwar -
Can you please help me?
I remember you had replied to Michael Popocky’s message. I wonder if you have a contact for him, please. The one he left on the blog is no longer available.
Thank you so much and have a good day :)
Carolina -
Maybe N.D.P. means Notre Dame de Paris.
Hi there,
Can anybody help me please?
I want to transfer some comments from one of Paulo’s archives onto “Your space” however, I am not sure how to go about. I think I need to use the “Live bookmarks” , don’t know how to proceed though.
Thank you.
As always, I believe forgiving and forgetting depends on the nature
of the misdeed and the parties involved. Sometimes it is not good to forgive and forget. the person who did wrong, may think they can continue to do wrong. Then again, do we really ever forget? I don’t think so. I think those actions and misdeeds and feelings are all stored in our memory, along with everything else. No, they are never quite forgotten, but it is up to us to not wallow in those wronged feelings or hold a grudge against the person. It is up to us to decide if we truly forgive, let it go, and move on.
I viewed your query on “forgive and forget” conversely. Instead of being hurt and deciding whether to forgive and forget, what if one has allegedly hurt another, but, in actuality did no wrong, morally or otherwise. Then, when that person (magnanimously) tells you they forgive you, do you accept their forgiveness? For what, if you have done nothing wrong to begin with? If you accept their forgiveness, you are then implying you have done something that needs to be forgiven. Just as forgiving behavior may serve to continue malfeasance in the wrongdoer, accepting forgiveness may serve to encourage the “forgiver” to falsely believe they were correct (and continue to blame others for non-existent, or imagined, wrongs).
Yo pienso que el que perdona y no olvida no ha perdonado,el perdon es lo que mas alivia el alma yo siempre decia que perdonaba pero no olvidaba eso no es perdon, aprendi que perdonar es olvidarse de todo y mirar a la otra persona como parte de ti mismo como si te estuvieras perdonando a ti mismo. Amor es el sentimiento que nace del perdon y cuando uno AMA asi con mayuscula no hay cabida para nada que no sea AMAR.
That’s not an easy question.
From my point of view, even the most hurtful actions can be forgiven.
Some people says that there is no forgiveness without being forgotten.
But we cannot just erase memories as we format HDs,(even those have to be formatted several times before all the data becomes really unreachable).
We must remember, not the pain, not the offense, but the fact.
And learn from the fact, that hopefully will be avoidable in the future. (not all of those can be avoidable).
Our life is a chain of experiences of all kinds, and we can react to them in different ways, interact, take charge and cause changes.
I see no value in forget the hurtful episodes.
I see value in getting over them, letting the pain go, and move on.
And I guess that’s what most people call “to forget”, and it’s not that forgetting means erasing.
The right to judge or punish is not in our hands. Sometimes the people that hurt others is not even aware of the pain that is being caused. But we have the power to forgive.
Forgiving is usually understood as letting go the anger about the person or the situation that made the damage.
So, it’s not a matter or forgetting the facts, but letting go the pain. Even when someone says that something is forgiven, they not really overcome the experience until they let go the pain.
They simply do not grow, they are stuck. And here is when it gets more complicated, cause by not letting go, the person in pain makes more damage to his own self, an then he must learn to forgive himself too.
On some years helping others to overcome depression, I have found that it is not the fact, or the person that made the damage what is still causing pain, but as they say:
“I can’t forgive myself for having been so ______ and let others affect me so much”.
But a bit ahead of the road, they finally discover that everything is a learning process, and it works like magic. They become empowered.
Once they really “learn” in the sense of acknowledging their past, they feel stronger and more prepared to endure whatever else life brings them to their doors, and embrace life with more passion.
They manage to overcome their fears about being inadequate or end up being hurt.
They just grow and look forward to live life with passion.
In my humble opinion then, it’s not a matter of forgetting, but a matter of learning and growing.
Hugs from Mexico, and thanks for “El Alquimista”, I have recommended to a lot of friends, and some of them have said it has changed their lives.
My best friend ended up moving from Mexico to Belgium some time after reading it. Thanks also for the free e-book. I’ll read it this weekend.
Blessings for you and your loved ones.
Wow Carolena! Now that’s a direct and clear question. I can wait to read the responses and would also love to hear Señor Coelho’s take on this question. Yes, if the trinity and belief in the trinity is key to so many than why is Mary the Mother of Christ not part of it? If she is revered, she is only revered as secondary to the Father and the Son, and I have been told that it is because of her willing surrender to give birth to the Son of God without question. Thank goodness they at least gave her points for that. I was raised Methodist, became Episcopalian to be closer to Catholicism (the religion of my ex-husband), then eventually became Catholic to try to heal a troubled marriage and because my ex-husband wanted our son to have his first communion in the Catholic Church, only to look down from a choir loft in a catholic church to never find my ex-husband or son at the services. I looked a the statue of the Virgin Mary one Sunday morning and said, “Mary, I leaving and taking you with me.” I left the Catholic Church, studied the occult, magic, Wicca, female spirituality, Buddhism, and eventually became a Unitarian Universalist. At least Unitarian Universalism allows me to create a personal theology, and encourages questioning and growth informed by all the world’s religions. I still believe in God, defining God as a natural divinity of both or no gender. I tend to see God in all things and feel closest to the divine in nature. I deeply believe in energetics, everything is energy.
Kealan,
I believe it is every 2 years.
The Images are the last of the “Greatest Loop” through Pinto Canyon, Ruidoza, Presidio, Terlingua and back to The Oasis. The map is on the previous Blog.
“For a long while I have believed…that in every generation there are a few souls, call them lucky or cursed, who are simply born not belonging, who come into the world semi-detached, if you like, without strong affiliation to family or location or nation or race; that there may even be millions, billions of such souls, as many non-belongers as belongers, perhaps; that, in sum, the phenomenon may be as “natural” a manifestation of human nature as its opposite, but one that has been mostly frustrated, throughout human history, by lack of opportunity. And not only by that, for those who value stability, who fear transience, uncertainty, change, have erected powerful system of stigmas and taboos against rootlessness, that disruptive anti-social force, so that we mostly conform, we pretend to be motivated by loyalties and solidarities we do not really feel, we hide our secret identities beneath the false skins of those identities which bear the belonger’s seal of approval. But the truth leaks out in our dreams… alone in our beds (because we are alone at night, even if we do not sleep by ourselves), we soar, we fly, we flee. And in the waking dreams our societies permit, in our myths, our arts, our songs, we celebrate the non-belongers, the different ones.What we forbid ourselves, we pay good money to watch, in a playhouse or movie theatre, or to read about between the secret covers of a book. Our libraries, our palaces of entertainment tell the truth. The travelers: if we did not recognize in them our least-fulfilled needs, we would not invent them over and over again, in every place, in every language, in every time.” — Salman Rushdie
I was reading a Friend’s Blog the other day titled “waiting”, and hope she does not mind me borrowing it’s resemblance, only the title that is, as the word is in parallel with my present time. A “traveler” pausing… It has to happen, it is needed. It is not as we are “waiting” 24/7 for the next step up, but yet, kind of. It is that time of the year to redo much and get reorganized. Smooth the path. Someone asked me why our SPOT was showing the present routes as we are going in circles? Errands! Sometimes also “Mother Nature” makes us take that position in Life throwing a bit of a temper tantrum… cold temperatures, winds, basically a real need to stay sheltered and switch activities. Mix them up. So we wait, do some thinking, some catching up on the unpleasant tasks of maybe rearranging paperwork, those pieces of papers that follow us every month in which I do not find much purpose, but the senders somehow do. Reorganizing for the miles coming up ahead of us, clean up, so many odds and ends to take care of. Going through what lays here asking myself the now eternal question: can I live without it?
Someone also reading our Blog the other day asked me if I could remember from day one the logistics we had to get used to enabling us to live on the road, including the difference being solo years ago, and now with Spirit. Mainly also the difference between “traveling” and “the road is home”. What would the new comer need to learn? There is I have to admit, much attraction from many, as yet I personally feel it being just another way of Life, logistically harder, but with a mind set so totally different than any other living situation. The closest I have come comparing these times has been when living on a sailboat. Another totally free space even more within the womb of Mother Nature as the shelter was only that minuscule floating box, if I can call it that.
There is always an invisible wall, partition of some sort between us when communicating with others, “normal life living” others. The “belongers”. It is not a disconnection, not a rupture, it is only a fence that separates us in the sense that we can step in their World but not vice versa. Our World can only be read here, only few others experience it. I feel as being odd at times and yet it is that oddity that keeps my sanity on the needed path. So, hypothetically, the traveler, the rider with their two weeks vacation, or driver for that matter, when decides to live on the road must cut all ties with their belongings, honestly that is… without a storage left behind they could go back to, filled with “stuff” still in their possession. Where does one start? By letting everything go.
The riddance of most possessions is the start of it all, and sometimes at first the hardest step, as the Journey then has not even began to teach us that what we need is already within us. It is hard to let go of our belongings when we think that they were the ones providing our well being, but, luckily because we have to for lack of space, it is an act we do not have much choice to follow. There are two avenues that present themselves immediately when one starts “living on the road”. One mental and one physical, often associated, one leaning against the other for their own comfort sometimes under the pressure of being robbed from it. It happens that many that live on the road cannot really afford the past luxuries present when traveling. There are months ahead, years maybe and no door waiting with that knob we can turn and glance at a space that would welcome us with our past comforts. The realization that they indeed where not comfort but only an attractive cover of a book maybe not so easily readable takes time, as only those multitude and interminable array of moments are the teachers of a developing chosen future.
They are the overnight stops when we need to find that little patch we can rest on for a few hours, safely, and go on the next day toward “that” destination we would like to reach to experience it for a few days, maybe longer. There are no closets to reach in and pull out what we need. Everything is in bags and will stay in bags that have to be undone daily and redone enabling us to go on without loosing the little of the necessities left. I have to remember where they are. Safety has become the biggest issue being within a social scene that has so much changed over the years. It is the one aspect that I am thankful to Spirit being with me. As inviting as he is, he also keeps the not so honest away from our path, he is after all a Pit. It was really not planned that way, but turns out to be an asset. Those spaces we seek need in our case to be dog friendly as not everyone is. It adds a bit of complexity to already sometimes a complicated situation.
There is cooking involved so often dictated by the weather as one cannot afford to eat out on a daily basis, or can even for that matter when in isolated areas. Food means storage, storage is slim, refrigeration is often non existent as summer with high temperatures only melts the few expensive ice cubes stored in the little cooler. Water is gold for the both of us, also dictates how long we can stay within the most attractive spaces which ironically do not provide any unless being lucky to be near a stream when we can filter the much needed liquid. Water is also part of hygiene, a path one needs to positively follow allowing themselves to stay healthy.
There is no home to go back to when repairs are needed, when the basic servicing of a vehicle has suddenly it’s due date. There is no address in one’s wallet when a Doctor is seeked, there is no local Pharmacy that knows you month after months refilling the precious prescriptions when and if needed. There is no mailing address besides a “Postal General Delivery” which does not accept UPS when a part has to be ordered. Every destination is as starting a new Life over, setting up shallow roots enabling one to continue collecting what is needed. The rules are pretty much the same everywhere and yet are not. We go with the flow, we learn daily the good and the bad, the better ways to accomplish the tasks. We learn sometimes the hard way to be smart, specially where we can go. Again, the weather being the biggest factor of it all in parallel with seeking a space inviting to the mind and the soul all at the same time.
The prize is huge and is the reason why the above quote caught my attention. The award is outstanding and I have no doubt that for many as for ourselves it represents a freedom few have, even if ourselves ironically are never totally free. The expansion of the senses is free, the respect acquired toward Mother Nature helps the daily Life’s comfort one needs to attain only to survive within ourselves and toward others. The “others” that secretly are the “belongers” only wishing deep down they were “non-belongers”. It is a choice, not an easy one, not any greener, only brighter.
We are on “pause” only in relation to distances covered. The days are actually going fast forward, one piece of the puzzle at the time is starting to fit again within the frame we will be living in soon. Only wish I could take this fire ring with us!
Be well…
Ara & Spirit
*** I can only hope this is where you mean sharing a Blog…
Kealan to the rescue…
Thanks Kealan. :)
Going off on a tangent… So if Mary is the Mother of God, as you say, then Jesus Is God and not only the son of God. Would you agree?
And can someone explain to me the Trinity, I mean, ok I get the Father, Son, but who in the world is the Holy Ghost or spirit??
And where is Mary? why is she not part of the Trinity? can life be possible without her? Uh…. NOT!
Coelho writes a book every three years. It is usually signalled by the universe sending him an omen in the form of a feather. Or so it has been said!
Mary is the symbol for the female face of God, in one respect; she is the Mother of God. Why Mary? Mary has repeatedly appeared across the globe to a host of people. Paulo shows his respect to the women of earth by praying to the dear mother in many of his books. The initials are used in Coelho’s books to hide the identity of the people because his books are read by millions of people; it is for privacy…whatever that means in this day and age!
I feel good about forgiving. Depending on the situation, it may come right away or it may take years. Forgiving makes me feel free. It does continue to be in my memory for ever. This is not a crime. We learn from ours and other’s mistakes. It does hurt when the other does not know that you have forgiven them and have unconditional love. I would like to know that I have enough in my life that I do not rely on others to be self-actuated. Forgiving is a very spiritual thing. If this is the only religion I practice, then let this be my religion. LOVE and Peace
Can someone HELP me??
I want to know what certain initials stand for in Paulo’s books:
The Winner Stands Alone – “For N.D.P. who came down to Earth in order to show us the path of the Good Fight”
Brida – “For N.D.L., who made the miracles happen”
Witch of Portobello – “For S.F.X., a sun who spread light and warmth wherever he went, and was an example to all those who think beyond their horizons”
Veronica Decides to Die – “For S.T. de L., who began to help me without my realizing it”
What do these initials stand for??
And also, in almost all his books, he writes, “O Mary conceived
without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”
I take it that he has recourse in Mary, but why Mary? what is the symbolism?
Anyone who can help, I will appreciate.
much love,
C.
It is my belief that under the laws of God and Man there are and should be some things that are unforgivable. Hidden in the seed of reward and punishment flowers the lessons of responsibility. Without understand the nature of responsibility, man will never know his true character. Thus, he will never grasp that character breed’s fate.
I will never forget or forgive that they took us.
From shore to shore, across a vast angry sea with the aide of a cursed wind
Despite mournful tears, conquering men stood deaf to our merciful prayers
Under the banner of a judging God, shameless nations sort profit from this evil deed
They Took Us
In the belly of merchants ships broken spirits sort reason for their tormented fate
Humanity’s essence left to rot; no decent motive can cleanse the purpose
The sellers’ greed and the buyers’ need fashioned a vengeful debt that’s yet to be paid
They Took Us
Lost to the land of us all; ripped from her womb, her destiny forever rewritten
Privileged claims of a few, put a continent of hopes and dreams asunder
Declared to be of little worth, a captive cargo forged wealth and power for a selfish world
They Took Us
Centuries of moral pretentiousness evoked to shield this grotesque genocide
The sins of fathers upon fathers lay in wait for those who still dare tread the same path
A mother’s tears for a child forever gone seeks history’s salvation
They Took Us
Cruel ambition lurking behind the veil of religion betrayed He who hung on the cross
As He arose, so must justice rise to bring peace to the offended ancestral souls
In the annuls of time, few deeds stain the measure of man nor altered fate as when…
They Took Us
Tim Reid
Paulo makes us question things all the time, has an open mind and keeps on learning. He makes us question other things in our lives and perhaps ourselves, probably making us all ultimately more intelligent.. do you agree?
Hanging on to hate or anger only serves to perpetuate more anger and hate. One must learn from that experience which was hurtful, and then one must move on. Dwell in the positive.
I am thinking recently of a good friend who has betrayed me twice by with men in my life. The first time I forgave her and felt sypmathy for her and the man. This was a great time of learning about myself. The second time (over martinis), I accepted who she was an allowed myself to move on from her as a close friend. I was hurt for a moment, but know that I cannot have people like that my life. I dwell in the light. I am thankful that my love didn’t take the bait, of course, but know that she needs to work some issues with herself. This is her lesson.
On Forgiveness I think one should forgive and forget its hard yes bt necessary. I have gone through experiences where people close to me hurt both intentionally and unintentionally. I found forgiving them and letting it go helps. The universe will deal with them and give them their just reward for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Its Karma.
This i must admit is hard to do but taking it one day at a time does help and soon you will be lighter for the burden of hurt and pain will be gone from your heart and the soothing waters of forgiveness shall flow through your soul.
i first read alchemist, as it was your most acclaimed book. but i didn’t like it. i didn’t finish it. but at the time i had already bought a box set of your other books.
i decided to give you another chance. i chose veronika decides to die. i was feeling the same thing at the time. i was going through hypnosis therapy and struggling with a lot of problems at the same time. when i finished with veronika, i masturbated but i’m not anywhere close. i started reading eleven minutes. and after reading veronika, i can totally feel eleven minutes.
i’m not about to sell myself. neither am i about to write a book. there’re many starts and stops in my life. i’m an art director but i feel words convey more of what i feel. and from what you wrote, translated from portugese (correct me if i’m wrong) still ring so true. still bring a tear to my eyes.
i don’t know how to start writing. i let each day pass. you must have a damn great translator.
i’ve a life story to tell. if you are there in your books, i hope you understand what i mean. it’s a life story i wish to tell but can’t put into words.
paulo, i sincerely hope that if you read this, it’ll be my honour to tell you my story and have you write it.
it’s nothing spectacular. nothing out of this world. just every day struggle.
Thanks a lot dear Kealan.
Yesterday I had a nice surprise, watching news. I saw a contest of emerging “stars”,guess in UK. A lady took part, but at beginning everybody laughed on her apearence,even the jury .She was a38 years old woman, average, bad hair style and dress.But, after few seconds she started to sing, the public applauded as crazy, and the jury said that they “knew she was to do something important”? She have an incredible voice.I forgot to say she was jobless, and no many ever kissed her. Thats a nice news.She is an example that we must never be ashamed of our look,but put in evidence our best part,in her case her voice,and courage.
Bonjour,
Il y a 2 sentiments que je ne connais pas : la haine et la compassion.
La haine, parce que je n’ai pas le temps et suis déjà dans le futur.
La compassion parce que c’est une dimension d’amour que je ne possède pas.
Pardonner et oublier à la dimension de notre sphère intime, familiale et amicale, c’est une nécessité.
Pardonner et ne JAMAIS oublier à la dimension de l’humanité, c’est une nécessité.
Marie.
Translate :
Hello,
There are two feelings that I do not know : hate and commiseration.
Hate, because I have not time and I’m already in future.
Commiseration, because it’s a dimension of love that I do not have.
To forgive and to forget in the dimension of our private, family or amicable, it’s a necessity.
To forgive and EVER NOT to forget in the dimension of the humanity, it’s a necessity.
Hi Jessica
I left a comment for u on the 13th
Just to let U know…
Take care*
In Brida, it is like the Trinity Love Not, no beginning or no end. Both Brida and her boyfriend are soul mates with the Magus! So the Magus’s part was teaching her how to be a witch; where the boyfriends’ part was to love her. It was her choice to go with the younger man. At least the Magus and the boyfriend didn’t run off together as they too were part of the greater soul! In the end Brida has control over her own destiny.
forgiving for me is releasing oneself from perpet ual t orment of a wound which is in t he past . t o not be able t o forgive is simply st at ing, I am st ill in t he past and wait ing for a fut ure when t his pain is not here. In t his we live in t wo non exist ing realit ies for the past is gone and the future never comes. When we focus what is with us now, we release both past and fut ure and attachment to our fears and doubts created from wounds recieved in at ime which no longer exist for us unless we carry forward int o this moment. the past is recreated by US in every moment of the present , and when WE do this it is ourself whom is causing the harm and ourselves we must forgive. Forgetting is merely covering up a memory. Releasing allows us the freedom to choose now from a new perspective.
forgiving for me is releasing oneself from perpet ual t orment of a wound which is in t he past . t o not be able t o forgive is simply st at ing, I am st ill in t he past and wait ing for a fut ure when t his pain is not here. In t his we live in t wo non exist ing realit ies for t he past is gone and t he fut ure never comes. When we focus what is wit h us now, we release bot h past and fut ure and at t achment t o our fears and doubt s creat ed from wounds recieved in a t ime which no longer exist for us unless we carry forward int o t his moment . t he past is recreat ed by US in every moment of t he present , and when WE do t his it is ourself whom is causing t he harm and ourselves we must forgive. Forget t ing is merely covering up a memory. Releasing allows us t he freedom t o choose now from a new perspective.
Forgiveness is always possible and becomes easiest when one is happy oneself. In fact, the degree of hurt a person can inflict on us is greatly diminished by our own levels of happiness: it is the shield against all misfortunes.
To forget is impossible – no brain could forget something that would have caused enough hurt to require forgiveness. There is no mantra to wash it away.
My answer – to Forgive and be Neutral. Forgive the hurt, but relive it, if necessary, dispassionately and without blame or vengeance. As meantingful hurt is quite personal, those who hurt us do not necesarily go on to hurt others – we are sometimes the catalyst to fire up the volcano.
Oi Paulo…
Estamos aqui no Brasil com muitas saudades de vc.Volte logo.
Qt ao tema, perdão ou esquecimento, opto pelo pela compreenção. Perdoar? quem sou eu! Esquecer? jamais, temos que estar atentas ao caminho, ele as vzs se repete, e como boas caminhantes, a atenção aos sinais é muito importante.
Portanto, o meu voto é pelo compreender, compreender sempre! Pq o outro erra, vai errar sempre , conosco , com outros e mais ainda …que somos igualmente erradores tb!
Assim, considerando q amor é igualdade, pois só se ama um igual.Seremos conscientes q não somos tão importantes assim, pq se fosse o caso, teríamos “pena” ou teríamos respeito, o q tb não vem ao caso, pq qd respeitamos consideramos o outro superior a nós,e qd temos “pena” o superior seríamos nós… o que não é tb não é o caso. Portanto a igualdade ,a liberdade e a fraternidade , ainda são bem melhores que o esquecimento ou o perdão.
E vc pode estar certo, vivenciamos este tema todos os dias!!
Abraços saudosos
Virginia Amorim
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T. xxx
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHvATmUsSg
A very funny video of… Cypriots living in England!
LOVE,
Thelma.
I dont understand the end of Brida. Why the Magus give up the chance of being with his Other part? Is not the end I would expect.Anyways,in the whole I loved the book.
I recently had an experience where someone I love deeply has hurt me deeply, so deep that it provoked a real existential crisis for both of us.
At first I tried to, but could neither forgive nor forget.
But when, through divine intervention, I found a way to forgive her I soon also forgot.
What I mean to say is I forgot the hurt itself, but not that I had been hurt. In other words, I have not forgotten the conditions and mistakes that let both of us to the moment where she hurt me. But I have forgotten the feeling ‘hurt’ – because when I think of it now it does not come up again at all. And we both feel only love when we remember the situation.
Forgiving is recognizing the fallibility in ourselves . . .Forgetting is a function of growth. When we are growing, expanding and embracing new experiences each day, new aspects of our lives and new opportunities the old hurts and traumas begin to fade into the past. It’s only when we sit and stew in remembrance of the past or refuse to allow life to renew us, that we become stuck in bitterness. Some abuses (sexual abuse for example) may require some therapy/trauma relief to heal, yet even making the choice to heal is a step toward forgiving. We must first forgive ourselves before we can forgive others. It helps to remember how forgiving nature is and how much Grace we experience each day.
http://www.thoughtsmagazine.blogspot.com
I live in a country that has shown that human beings can release each other emotionally in order to move into a positive future. Daily life has shown that we neither forgive nor forget easily – yet we are willing to deal with the NOW. The Now in this land determines what our children will enjoy – we choose to manage and release our pain and understand we are human. Forgive and forget seems to tell a limited story.
Big Brother is watching you read.
http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2002/02/13/bookstores/index.html
You might also want to have a look onto the site of
American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression
http://www.abffe.org/
Hello Paulo,
I tend not to agree with your opinion concerning forgiving and forgetting. First : how can you know that someone has forgotten if they continue talking about it ?? Then : I don’t think either that the question is about good, bad, just or injust. In other words, it is not a question of judgement, but a fact. Third : if someone has hurt you, how are you going to stop him from hurting others ? if he does not realize what he did and therefore stop, you only can lock him up or – worse – kill him !
I sincerely think the following : never forget (in order not to put yourself back into a similar painful situation) but forgive. Forgiving has something to do with giving ! Forgiving is a process (can be a long process) that will lead you from a very bad pain to peace. It is a process of heart and soul, not of mind. A process that will lead you from victim to your real Self. It sure needs will, but it needs much more love.
How about that ?
Take care
Ch-T.