Tramadol
Fioricet
Soma
Cialis
Carisoprodol
Levitra
Ultram
Ambien
Viagra
Xanax
Phentermine
Valium
Xanax
Celebrex
Diazepam
Alprazolam
Buy Celebrex
Buy Alprazolam
Buy Tramadol
Buy Fioricet
Buy Soma
Buy Cialis
Buy Carisoprodol
Buy Levitra
Buy Ultram
Buy Ambien
Buy Viagra
Buy Xanax
Buy Phentermine
Buy Valium
Buy Xanax
Buy Diazepam
Generic Celebrex
Generic Alprazolam
Generic Tramadol
Generic Fioricet
Generic Soma
Generic Cialis
Generic Carisoprodol
Generic Levitra
Generic Ultram
Generic Ambien
Generic Viagra
Generic Xanax
Generic Phentermine
Generic Valium
Generic Xanax
Cheap Tramadol
Cheap Fioricet
Cheap Soma
Cheap Cialis
Cheap Carisoprodol
Cheap Levitra
Cheap Ultram
Cheap Ambien
Cheap Viagra
Cheap Xanax
Cheap Phentermine
Cheap Valium
Cheap Xanax
Cheap Celebrex
Cheap Diazepam
Cheap Alprazolam
Adipex
Adipex Online
Phentermine Adipex
Buy Adipex
Adipex Pill
Cheap Adipex
Order Adipex
Adipex P
Adipex Diet Pill
Diet Adipex
Adipex P Diet Pill
Generic Adipex
Adipex Line
Buy Adipex Online
Adipex Medication Phentermine
Adipex Side Effects
Phentermine Adipex Ionamin
Adipex Online Pharmacy
Adipex Prescription Online
Adipex Prescription
Cheapest Adipex
Buy Adipex Line
Buy Cheap Adipex
Adipex Phentermine Vs
37.5mg Adipex P Phentermine
Discount Adipex
Adipex No Rx
Order Adipex Online
Overnight Adipex
Adipex Doctor Effects Side
Adipex Drug
Buy Adipex P
Adipex 37.5
Adipex Rx
Adipex Fastin P Phentermine
Adipex Generic Only
Adipex Review
This concept of “the other,” to me, was really the heart of the book, the core of its message. The way in which it was presented was so simple and, as April suggests, so “non-threatening.” As one who formerly suffered from bi-polar disorder, I am familiar (all too familiar) with this “other,” as, far a very long time, my “other” was the root of most of my problems. However, modern psychology - the arena in which I sought help - deals with this “other” in a wholly different manner. The most prevalent idea seems to be: Let’s drug this annoying “other” so that it will shut up and leave us alone. But the problem with that, as I learned from personal experience, is that, yes, you can drug the “other” and thereby quiet its voice for a time, but the “other” is still there. It’s presence is still felt, even when it is temporarily silent. It is like a shadow-self that stands next to you and casts its darkness upon every positive desire or aspiration you have.
I like Paulo’s approach far better: tell this “other” to go stand over there in the corner, and then, when you have felt the sun’s unhindered rays long enough, when you feel strong enough, send this “other” packing - send it on a long, one-way trip, with no return. Tell it to get the hell out of your life, and don’t come back!
The primary difference between the approach suggested in this book and the one frequently adopted in modern psychology is this: the former is an active approach, a position of ever-increasing empowerment; the later is a passive approach, a position which causes one to feel weak, crippled, a helpless victim. In fact, if one is diagnosed as bi-polar (which I would term as “overpowered by the other and very pissed off about it”) the first thing one is likely to hear from an “expert” is that there is no real hope - one may stall the encroachment of bi-polar disorder with drugs, but with time, it will only ever get worse. It will never get better, nor go away completely, and eventually one will have no choice but to succumb to inevitable insanity. This is bunk! It’s like saying that there is no way to evict the “other” from your life, from your psyche, and no way to get over being angry about it - this “other” is stronger than you are, and although you may hold it off for a while, eventually it will overpower you altogether.
Thanks, Paulo, for offering us this much more realistic and very empowering view of the “other” and how to deal with it in our lives.
Much Love,
Savita
[Reply]
marie-christine Reply:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
as far as I am concerned we are all bi-polar so I can’t see what is the fuss is all about.
:) Love and light
[Reply]
“Au bord de la rivière Piedra, je me suis assise et j`ai pleuré”, the best novel I ever read!! Mon roman favoris!! It strikes a middle position between all extremes, it shows that nothing is definitely what it seems to be: it is never possible to be totally ourselves by chasing the other away, for the other is a part of us, it makes who we are.. and it is impossible to be ourselves by totally becoming the other (which is at many points an extreme version of who we are)!! we find our true selves when we learn how to achieve the balance between the different parts of ourselves. Le chemin est long, ca prend beaucoup d’experience pour atteindre ce stade de maturité et de paix intéreure.. Thanks
[Reply]
by getting the concept of “other”….i feel very confused…..because in life every person wants 2 do the things in their own way….may be someday i will try it but right now i have no chance to remove other from my life…..lots of things i have 2 do for my family…..but one day i concentrated my thoughts removing the “other” from my life…
i think after 1-2 years i will be able 2 remove it completely….
thanks sir for giving us a brilliant idea to remove the “other” from the life…:)
[Reply]
CUANDO LEI ESTE LIBRO ME CAUTIVO MUCHO.. LEYENDO EL EJERCICIO DE LA OTRA COMPRENDI CUAN DIFICIL ES A VECES NO DEJARSE LLEVAR POR LAS CONVENIENCIAS SOCIALES.. POR EL QUE DIRAN.. Y DESCUBRI Q LA OTRA EN MI VIDA SIEMPRE HABIA APARECIDO EN MOMENTOS DE TOMAAR DECISIONES IMPORTANTES.. BUSCAMOS CONTINUAMENTE EL EXITO Y EL RECONOCIMIENTO DE LOS DEMAS OLVIDANDO A VECES SI ES REALMENTE ESE EL CAMINO DE NUESTRA PAZ Y TRANQUILIDAD DEL ALMA.. LA OTRA AUN ESTA ALLI.. PERO APRENDI A RECONOCERLA Y CUANDO SIENTO Q QUIERE DIRIGIR MIS PASOS SIMPLEMENTE LA CALLO.. ES DIFICIL A VECES PERO LA SATISFACCION DE HACER LO Q MI CORAZON REALMENTE QUIERE ES SUFICIENTE PARA NO BAJAR LA GUARDIA..
LA OTRA EN MI ESTABA DECIDIDA A NO AMAR DE NUEVO.. PORQUE AMAR DUELE, TE EXPONE SIN CLEMENCIA A LOS DEMAS.. PERO Q ES LA VIDA SIN AMOR.. PARA Q QUIERES LOGRAR LO Q LOS DEMAS SUPONEN Q ES LO MEJOR PARA TI SI ESO NO TE LLENA..
EL TEMA DEL AMOR ES INFINITO Y LA GRACIA DE DIOS ESTA CON QUIEN LA ACEPTA Y LA DEFIENDE CON FE..
QUE EL AMOR GUIE SIEMPRE SUS PASOS.. NO LES ALEJE DE SUS SUEÑOS.. Y CUANDO LA OTRA APAREZCA RECUERDEN Q EL CORAZON ES EL QUE MANDA Y LO Q MANDA ES LO Q VALE..
[Reply]
“To be defeated without ever knowing what you’re fighting for”
I get goose bumps when reading this. That happened to me many times, specially when I used to follow what others wanted , not what I wanted.
I will be defeated, yes, knowing this is a way to grow, no matter how hard it is to get over the pain, but finally I want to be defeated fighting for what I believe in. The other usually prevents us from fighting saying it is not worth it.
The other has paralized me many times. It is the devil whispering in my ear,” you’re not worthy, comply with what you have, you won’t win, anyways he doesn’t love you , don’t risk or you might loose the little you have”.
It is the weakest self fed for years by all the thoughts, comments, songs, preconcieved ideas that tie our feet and prevent us from going on in the direction of our true desires.
And I haven’t gotten rid of it yet. However I keep trying. I’m beginning to identify its voice and to run my life the way I want it to be lived.
The other is like the
[Reply]
The seminarian had expelled the Other from his life a long time ago. The Other has to do with our fears, insecurity, and unwillingness to see what is wonderful. The Other, is the gods, who ‘throw the dice’ and they don’t care to know about your plans and your hopes. The crowd blame us for not conforming. The crowd wants us all to be the same. How does the Other interfere with love? Pilar wants to love the man who loves her. She wants to be a woman whose soul is bathed in the light of a god, or a goddess. When Pilar starts to seek love, the Other leaves her, and her heart again begins to speak to her. The Other appear as a negative energy, and tries to direct and detect shortcomings. The Other builds up a barricade of stubborn opinions, of preconceived ideas and textbooks. Pilar fights to get loose of the hold of the Other, to become herself.
The Other seems to be the voice of our parents, teachers, society and gods telling us what we ought to do, what we should do with our lives. I remember from psychology, the self, can be dominated by this super-ego constantly telling us what decisions to make. I might want a chocolate, and the Other, this interior voice tells me; No! Chocolates are not good nutrition, and is bad for your teeth. Skip it. I ought to eat fruit and vegetables and plenty of fiber. I ought to pick a certain education, certain friends and certain lifestyle. One should not follow spontaneous desires, or childlike behaviors. Control, control, control. In the end this inner force does indeed ruin all our potentials; love potential, work potential and potentials of following any personal different path each individual has to stake out to become that ultimate being. Only I can be I… Only you can be you.
[Reply]
Marie-Christine Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Big kisses to you, heart. Mouah!
Yep! Yep! Yep!” only you can be you”
[Reply]
Heart Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Thank you Marie-Christine..giggles @ ya.
[Reply]
The other, who represents us itself through suggesting us fear. The negative side of us, which constantly may try to convince us that we are:
*unable
*unworthy
*pathetic
*weak
*not good enough
*unloved
etc. etc…
it represents our fears, the negative side of it.
It’s up to us to notice, when ‘the other’ emerges, and start thinking realistically, contemplating with logic, peace and the so called rational mind.
Most of the times, soon enough, we will discover, that ‘the other’ was simply trying to hold us back or lead us to the wrong path, take us away from our true dreams that we have in our hearts. The other usually emerges on the “weak” moment, when we start to doubt ourselves…
If we get to the root of ‘the other’, soon we will find out that the other itself is pathetic, unable, unworth, weak and so on. And that we, ourselves, are stronger.
Since that we are able to move in the directions we wanted, towards our dreams. Also, to feel free of doubt and fear.
~*~*~*~
We have all experienced it, I believe. After reading the book, in which this concept is described, I actually put it in practice, and I started to see things clearly. I noticed, that ‘the other’ appeared at the times, when only the most important subjects/situations (in my opinion) were at stake, and I guess then the fear was the biggest, and so ‘the other’ could emerge clearly.
It tought me to step back, see the situation for what it is, assess it, assess myself, my feelings and why I felt as I did, and deal with it objectively. It made an impact on me, and I’m thankful I was able to hold that book in my hands at that time. I still have in mind the things I had absorbed from that book, like a sponge.
Thanks,
L.
[Reply]
For years I have been following my heart, doing what I passionately love (hence studying the subject I am interested in and eventually finding a job I passionately love). I never paid attention to “the Other,” for it must have been forced into hibernation after years of being neglect. However, 1 year pass since I started working, monetary reward was minimal. Now I have other concerns. My parents are getting old and sick, but I don’t have the money for their medication. I am falling in love with this girl, but I fear she will reject me for I cannot guarantee a secured life. I joined volunteer groups to help children of poorer countries, only to realize I need to at least be able to self-finance a trip to the countries. (I’ve been to one and spent all my savings on the trip). All the while, I started to hear “the Other” sneering at me “See? You should have listened to me when I spoke, now it’s just too late…Without money, you can achieve nothing, not even your dreams.”
Sometimes I feel so defeated…my ex-girlfriend told me “You are simply seeking your dreams at the expense of your family, who provide you with a house to live, food to eat, while you’re studying this subject that will not make any money when you graduate.” Maybe she is right. Sometimes I think. Maybe she is right. She speaks for “the Other”.
[Reply]
The Other is that daunting image that frightens us and blames us for not conforming to the traditions and abiding to the religious codes. I really feel free when i neglect the other eventhough i know that his punishment will be severe. On that moment i decide to challenge him and predict what would be his reaction. I realize that the other is eating me sometimes. but at least i know that my inner voice, the soul, will not die. it will keep fighting inside its prison… better than nothing
[Reply]
It is one of the most memorable passages I ever read. Whenever I feel like I am losing sight , I refer to that passage to give me strength.
I am still struggling with casting away the other ,I think it is because I grew accustomed to it. I cant say it is an unwelcome guest , because I do invite the other in. hopefully, when day ,
[Reply]
The other… Is that a twin image? The Double Self? I remember some images where Pilar was thinking what would “The Other ” said?
[Reply]
Aisha Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
here is the passage
The Other
Paulo Coelho
By the river Piedra, I sat down and wept.
A man runs into an old friend who had somehow never been able to make it in life. “ I should give him some money “, he thinks. But instead he learns that his old friend has grown rich and is actually seeking him out to repay the debts he had run up over the years.
They go to a bar they used to frequent together , and the friend buys drinks for everyone . When they ask him , how he became so successful , he answers that until only a few days ago, he had been living the role of the “Other”
“What is the other ? They ask”
“The “Other” is one who taught what I should be like, but not what I am. The Other believes that it is our obligation to spend our entire life thinking about how to get our hands on as much money as possible so that we will not die of hunger when we are old. So we think so much about money and our plans for acquiring it that we discover we are alive only when our days on earth are practically done. And then its too late.”
“ And you ? Who are you “
“ I am just like everyone else who listens to their heart a person who is enchanted by the mystery of life. Who is open to miracles, who experiences joy and enthusiasm who is open to miracles, who experiences joy and enthusiasm for what they do. Its just that the Other , afraid of disappointment, kept me from taking actions.”
“ But there is suffering in life,” one of the listeners said.
“ And there are defeats, no one can avoid them. But its better to lose some of the battles in the struggle for your dreams than to be defeated without even knowing what you’re fighting for”
“ That’s it? another listener asked.
:” Yes, That’s it. When I learned this, I resolved to become the person I had always wanted to be . The other stood there in the corner of the room, watching me, but I will never let the Other into my life again—even though it has already tried to frighten me, warning me that its risky not to think about the futre”
“ From the moment that I ousted the Other from my life , The Devine energy began to transform into miracles.”
[Reply]
Alexandra Reply:
July 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
Woderful. Thank you.
[Reply]
I loved the description and idea of the “other.” It was an original and non-threatening way to identify the negativity we each have in our lives and thoughts. The “other” is deceptively rational and a way to comfort ourselves so we don’t get hurt by taking risks and following intuition and our dreams. Calling these thoughts the “other” created another character in the book for readers to identify with even if it wasn’t always pleasant.
[Reply]