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dear MR Paulo coelho,
your books are great, i love reading them all, but aside from aleph and the alchemist, your book “the pilgrimage” really left me hanging about the tradition, the ram practices, and well the roots of all these, how you get involved in such ,i dont know what to call it, group? brotherhood? society? :D these stuffs really are interesting and even though i’m not knowledgeable and at the same time scared of the unknowns, i still want to be somehow enlighten about these things.. would you mind enlightening me more about some truths connected with these? :D if its just okay, but if its prohibited i’ll respect it.
btw, thank you sooo much for all the life changing books, certainly your books are not just read, but live <3
xoxo much love
paolo
hey paolo i love all your books and been readin everything and i know your busy and have a life of your own to live
but i want to say thank its one thing to write something magical and something else to ask so much
i mean thanks for all the magick you have shown us which would be completely unknown to us but its not okay to ask so much of you
i hope you get what i am saying i really wish not to confuse anyone
this maybe be silly but i was reading a manga called gantz
in that the main character lost the one he loves and decides to go look for her but then he sees so many people held hostage by the aliens and saves them all despite wanting to rescue the one he loves cause god knows what happened to her in the midst of the war but upon saving them they all yell at him saying you cant leave us we are humans take us back to our homes but he felt so bad that he wanted to save his love but one of the people who got saved said its one thing that he saved us but isnt it asking so much to get us back when he is fighting the world for the one he loves
hope i dint write so much but nevertheless would love to meet you in person :)
take care bro :D
@keek
bro how did you find your powers please tell me cause i would love to find my powers
Paolo,
Last year I came back from an amazing year in Italy. I had so many magical and powerful moments. I followed my heart 100% and it lead me to pure, undeniable, magic. Like you say, the universe conspires to help you live your dreams. At the end of the year I met someone in Barcelona that innitiated me into the magical world. He told me I was a healer, that I had magic, and how magic is real its just that most people don’t believe in it. At this moment that he told me this, It started pouring rain, there was a cat meowing, and the wind started howling. These noises came all together for about 5 seconds and then stopped. In that moment the whole universe opened up to me and I understood that ANYTHING can happen.
When I came back to Los Angeles, I picked up the Alchemist ‘randomly’ (it had been sitting on my sisters shelf for more than 10 years). Everything you wrote in that book is how I felt and what I started to understand in Italy. I’m now reading Brida, and I take these books as a literal guide. I’m trying to learn more about my powers and to be able to share them with others.
Thank you for reassuring me that all of this is real, very real, and something I need to keep pursuing. Its really an amazing thing to be able to spread this feeling onto others, Thank you.
I hope to meet you one day, just like everyone else that has blogged here :)
This is very interesting Keek!
Thank you for sharing.
It is really amazing that you have discovered your gift. My gift appears to be similar to yours. I have also experienced that I have the gift of healing. Though I am in a bit of a search about it, since it requires for someone to be very careful on such matters. All the clues lead to that fact that yes, as much as I doubt it, I have this gift (maybe plus one more). I communicate with Saints daily( I am a Christian Orthodox) and they lead me through this path. I have seen and continue seeing parts of the invisible world. It is not easy at all, ,but I feel lucky to experience such situation.
That is why I love Paulo’s books. They reveal things familiar to me . I feel that I am not alone and that all these are real. So, the next step is finding a guide. Let’s hope that Paulo will reveal more of RAM, as he has promised.
I would really like to know more about your experience on this field. I would like to contact you and talk. So, if you wish we could do that.
Thanks.
hi there :D just curious how did you guys discover your magic/powers/special abilities? uhmm,, i know not everyone is gifted, but just in case :D ..
For Shai and Kiba……Well I live in California, but I went to Italy for one year, and in that year I wanted to see if I could follow my heart 100%. So when I set out for the year, I decided on that and made it my goal. I had an open heart, open mind, and my curiosity led me around Italy in pursuit of exploration instead of letting fears determine my actions. Thats number one. Number 2…..I found a very old town on the top of a hill in Tuscany. I felt like this town had a soul of its own, and secrets to tell me. It just pulled me in. When i was there I had physical sensations of wanting to cry and complete peace and i felt like i had found something very old inside me. With such intense feelings, I couldn’t turn away. I knew there was something there that I had to explore so I followed my heart and found a way to enroll in an art program there. I painted (my passion) and lived there for three months. During this time, I fell in love, and just surrendered to the mysteries of this old town (its called Cortona). I believe this town helped me find some magic. There are certain places in the world called lay lines that are supposed to be very high in this kind of energy.
After I left this town I went traveling around europe for a month with no plan really. I met someone by ‘chance’ who was some kind of guide and he told me many answers. after knowing him for a few days i continued on my way and found many coincidences. when i became more aware of these coincidences they were everywhere and undeniably part of some kind of magical world.
Thats my own experience. Thats all i can tell. Now i’m back in school and I definitely don’t feel my magic as strongly as i did. but when i graduate in june i will be on another quest of finding this magic.
Sometimes i try to test my intuition. If i need to find something or figure out an answer i try going to a still place and following any thoughts or images that come up. i’ll try to feel in my body if I have any impulses or pulls in a certain direction. Its hard to explain, but i just try to feel the answer.
In general, the magic is something we are all connected to. Something very old and simple and the most basic form of connection before we had any technologies or comforts of the modern world. But magic is definitely out there and just by believing in it, your ability to find it will be much easier. I hope something in here helped…..
dear paolo
like dear fairy girl i wana to kmow is any tradition really exist, and ram practises, how some one could find a teacher?
im now 25 years old and im an electronic enginear.
i wanted stady for MA exam in MBA manegmant, but after reading the pilgrimage ithout that these arent my really drems.
i dont want be a manegment.
i really want be a majician. i want fallow ROM practises…
please help me…
pleasse help us…
please…
dear Paolo,
I have read so much of you so i consider you as a friend and teacher helping me to my life path.
Reading the ‘Pilgrim’ about 6 years ago, i was so much impresed about the Ram practises that actually i did some of them by myself….but , many things have changed since then , I got a divorce , doing 3 jobs to raise my sons, as being a woman is a disadvantage to the place that i live .Reading books is my favourite thing ever ! i wanted to become a writer , too!
actually i have written a few poems but……the thought that is on my mind all of these years is RAM .Does this ‘tradition’ really exists? how can someone find a way to meet a Ram teacher? is it possible to get an answear ? i really feel that this is a part of ‘me’, but i ve lost the way …will you please help me and give some hints where to find it ?
thank you
i m feeling so gratefull for your work!
always be well! love !
dear paolo
like dear fairy girl i wana to kmow is any tradition really exist, and ram practises, how some one could find a teacher?
im now 25 years old and im an electronic enginear.
i wanted stady for MA exam in MBA manegmant, but after reading the pilgrimage ithout that these arent my really drems.
i dont want be a manegment.
i really want be a majician. i want fallow ROM practises…
please help me…
pleasse help us…
please…
Dear Paulo
I want to thank you for a lot of things. My old high school teacher has a lot of respect for you and if it weren’t for him I would have never read your book the Alchemist. Your book opened my eyes that I could follow my Passions and dreams. I was on a one-track road to the rock bottom entering my freshman year, my grades were bad, and I was hardheaded towards figures of authority.
I always liked to cook. I would help my Grandma in the kitchen for as long as I can remember. My plan for high school was to drop out ant get a job as a cook in some side road restaurant. After reading the Alchemist I realized that I could so much more then be some breakfast cook for the rest of my life. After the alchemist I read some of you other books The Valkyries, The Pilgrimage, The Fifth mountain and the witch of Portobello.
Once I realized that I could succeed in my dreams as long as I never give up I started working on my self, shaping my self in a different way. When I got Mad I just Ranted in my head or didn’t let the situation bother me. I surrounded my self in my passion by taking the high school cooking culinary classes, cooked more at home and learned from other people and books.
The reason food and cooking is my passion is because food is one of the corner stones of civilization; food is what brings friends and families together. Food is my paint and the plate is my canvas. With food I love that fact that I can take something completely ordinary and change it to something entirely different. There are literary hundreds of different things a potato or an egg can be used for. Food is my alchemy.
Since I Graduated from High school in June 2010 I am almost done with culinary college In Oregon U.S.A to become a chef. Being the age of 19 I am currently one of the youngest people in my school. When I pay of my student loans I plan to travel the world and work abroad with different chefs and see what life has to offer.
Sincerely with great respect
Geoffrey M Millner
(P.S If your Ever in Oregon Let me Know it would be a pleasure to meet you + we have a beautiful country side)
You are touched with gold Geoffrey Mill n er
can you cook me something pleaze…
that would be splendid chank you very mucho
and if u dont mind when you do those classes i would like to attend as well
what is the weather like at the moment is there enough rain for the vegetables and fruit what is the best way to plant flowers do they need a lot of love and care
sincerely
ps i love celery and brocoli (steamed preferred style)
do you sing as well when you do the cooking;that would be an advanture
xx
Dear Mr Coelho. I was raised evangelical, but have always had issues in this tradition of faith. I am more of a mystic than a basic christian. I am very much intrigued by The Tradition. How may I find a teacher? Please help, I am searching, and have been for sometime without knowing it.
Blessings
Lucas
Dear Paulo,
You have so many wonderful talents!
I am a little confused at the moment, is it possible to have two messengers? I’ve seen first a boy and he gave me his name and then a man and there was another name. Is one of them something else? Any guidance is appreciated.
Oh Dear Paulo, I really don’t know where to begin.
It has been a long time since I last read a book, I was so stuck in my small box I used to call reality, until I finally woke up from the misery that I thought was happiness. I first read the Alchemist, then Valkyries, and now the Pilgrimage.
Those three books changed a lot, they made me find my path along with Gebran Khalil Gebran and the Bible. I have finally found my path, the route to agape, the tradition I was seeking, the practices I needed. I have found it all.
Most certainly now I know what love is, i can feel it.
Thank you, thank Gebran, Thank Jesus…
Why would any power, any ability, be more important than being awake? Are these rituals and abilities a means for waking up to true nature or are they more things to play with – and potentially be trapped by?
Here we all are, bound the promise that Mr. Coelho will give us a detailed explanation of the RAM rituals. We await a response that will help us shed the habits that plague our mind and dictate our actions, that will bring us to the truth we are seeking out.
In waiting, you are not seeking out any truth, and your minds are becoming frustrated. They are becoming clouded. You can no longer see clearly.
Desire to be in the present. This is the “good fight.”
I am with you, not separate from you.
Have you done the Road to Rome yet? Next year, i’m doing the Road to Santiago and will be doing the RAM Excerises, very exciting and intriging to try them and hear about your experiences on the way to Rome and the Vatican.
Thanks,
your humble follower,
Mario
Hello,
I’m wondering about the other pilgrimage, especially the one to Rome. You say that it’s connected to the subtil world. Where does this knowledge come from? Interested in the subtil world, I’d like to learn more about it, where could I find or read informations about the pilgrimage to Rome in his Tradition’s aspect.
Thanks for anserwing to this question.
J
having just read ‘the pilgrimage’ again, would like to say how refreshing and totally inspiring your story/journey was to me. do you still feel that life is leading you?..
Thank you.
Sue
HI!PAULO…
I READ THE PILGRIMAGE ,AND AM INTERESTED IN DOING THE RAM PRACTICES.IS IT OK IF I DO ALL THE PRACTICES OR SHOULD I OMIT FEW.
PLEASE DO REPLY.WAITING IN ANTICIPATION!
-NIRMIKA
A good comparison in my personal life with the Pilgrimage and the Sword has been 13 years of medical school and medicine. This journey has taken me on many ups and downs. Like the RAM i have performed many exercises to be a doctor, but these were simply exercises to prepare me for the reality which was hugely different.
There are real ups and downs, crises in confidence, material worries, the changing of your character as a very particular Tradition i.e Medicine exerts its influence on you for good and bad.
And the Sword? The question is what will you do with it is the greatest question.
I have been blessed by Adventures into places where War has shown me the ugly side of man. I have felt rage so bad at atrocious injustices i too have wanted to kill with a rage i feel sad to have found in myself. Yet i have emerged stronger, richer for the experience of seeing War criminals, rapists, murderers, and yet so many more Angelic people, whose goodness and simple wisdom gives so much hope to one.
Don’t get caught up on exercises, don’t get caught up on the journey, don’t get caught up on the sword. The secret of the sword is what you do with it.
For me the reward has been and always be the job i do with the multitude of different people io have seen as Police Surgeon, overseas volunteer and now Plastic Surgeon, regardless of future material comfort, this is the living breathing reward.
That is the freedom to be the kind of person who you really are, that is the Sword.
Paulo- perhaps a novel on a Surgeon? I have some great material you could use.
As Hildegarde, wrote so beautifully “it’s better to be silent until consciousness is ready for the treasure.” I have read/ devoured many of my dear Paulo’s books and find this to be a resonating through them all. Perhaps this is why our dear “teacher” is making us wait for his answers to our questions?
I am learning to reduce the inner “static” and listen to the voices and messages of God, mother Mary and the Universe to guide me. Learning patience is so difficult, but something Petrus teaches as well, in fact most of the “teachers” in his books communicate this lesson.
The truly amazing thing I have discovered through “The Pilgrimage”, is meeting my own messenger. I always described someone else (human) as my messenger from God- but about 2 days after reading that part of the book and having my home “blessed” in a specific Catholic ceremony by a priest friend, I had an amazing dream in which I met a loving Spanish woman whom, without any details here, was obviously my spiritual guide or an angel or a protector. Her name became clear to me and it was a name that is unusual but has popped up throughout my life in different ways.
Thanks to all the “posters” for indulging my little rant here…
Thank you, Paulo- I pray for you daily and Thank God for “accidentally” finding The Alchemist in the library sell-off bin for .25cents in 2007. You are a generous soul and wonderful teacher in my life.
Love,
Ana
Hello , i just read you book and i loved. It was so fascinatig and i am really intrested in RAM and The Tradition. Can you please tell me how one can be part of that?
Thanks ,
With love Roxana
Petrus says: “The only way to take a rightful decision is to recognize the wrongful decision. Examine the other path, without fear and morbidity, then decide.”
I came across “I-Ching”, and the central concept is that in all situation, there exists the best and the worst way of conduct, and the “sage” discovers et adopts the best. Then it says that I-Ching is not an instrument to predict future, but a compilation of profound words that reflect the interior of the human spirit (mind), helping develop the intuitive capacity. I-Ching helps to find an answer to a question, helps to find the answer within one person. So at that moment, Petrus was referring to I-Ching. Well, his words are part of that.
I am now reading a book that is entitled “Platon not Prozac, Philosophy as a pill” by Lou Marinoff. And I see in words what I practice since well far away without knowing. You know, in my education, philosophy is a little moment of 3 months in Québec, and well then, at that age, I had my drug related problem and was like not all there and followed a path that was parallel. I realize that many today forgot or lost or were not brought to exploit their capacity of contemplating philosophically, of developing the ability to contemplate, of making, referring to create their own philosophical thoughts, to take the time to comprehend what is all there present at the moment, know oneself, discover the motives, form new convictions, act to attain goals and find serenity.
The Chinese philosophy tells that we are not entirely responsible of a situation, but that it is our obligation to find a better solution. For I-Ching, if we take the wrong path to accomplish what we aspire, we will undergo problems further ahead. To find the better solution permits then to not only benefit of a situation but also take profit of a false step.
So, if I understand what Petrus was telling, is that it is always good to see both, since learning will be acquired by visiting both. Visiting the wrongful decision brings to visit a place that I do not wish to be, but helps me to know things that I need to know to follow my path.
The Seed Exercise is very similar to a Sufi exercise. I used to do Rumi Yoga, and we had an exercise almost identical to that which you describe Paulo. I believe it also was called the Seed.
The Tradition must exceed specific religions, though you say RAM is an Order in Catholicism. The Tradition is very confusing. Perhaps because these informations are not given out easily.
love
C.
Dearest Paulo,
would you mind elaborating on the faces of RAM and N. please, you saw during the dance exercise, who are they, whose spirits?
love
C.
Dear Paulo,
I wonder if you could clarify this for me, because I am a bit confused: Is “The Tradition” spoken of in The Pilgrimage the Templar Tradition in some modern form? And is RAM and The Tradition the same thing, or two separate but connected entities/societies?
Thank you!
Savita
RAM is part of the Tradition. As the templar rituals also are. But there is no relationship between the two.
That said, there is no such a thing as “modern form”. A Tradition does not change with the time.
Love
In this book I thought that, RAM and the Tradition are two seperate entities….with different associations (e.g. The Devil in RAM has a different meaning, to the Devil in the Tradition, where he is neither good nor evil).
And it is said that the Devil is in the detail, which clearly here it is.
I have started to do some of these exercises of RAM, and I think they are very powerful. Thank you.
I am reading The Pilgrimage now – almost at the end – and I am very intrigued by The Tradition. Greatly intrigued. “Why is this?” I ask myself. It is not because RAM is a “secret” society, because I know that the wisdom of “secret” societies is not really secret at all. It is not the aura of mystery that attracts me. It certainly isn’t the promise of power, because power has never been an aspiration of mine. (It is enough for me – the thought of attaining power over MY OWN life. I have no desire for power over the lives of others.) Nor is it the possibility of gaining certain occult “powers” that attracts me. The Sanskrit word for these is “siddhis,” and I know that they are never to be sought after as a goal – an end in themselves. In fact, if not attained under the proper guidance and in conjunction with adequate wisdom (i.e. if one does not know how to put them to proper use) they can actually be more of a hinderance than a benefit, as they tend to distract one from the real goal. These powers come, they go – they are of no real import, nor do they necessarily signify that one is truly “advanced” on a spiritual level. This is why they can also be used for great evil. Anyone can develop them, with adequate diligence and practice.
So now I’ve listed all the things that are NOT at the core of my interest in The Tradition. So what then is it that attracts me to RAM? (Obviously, I’m working through this question in my mind as I write.) There are certain words and phrases that rush through my mind: synchronicity, the symbolic mind, the connectivity of all life, the realization of events and experiences as having a greater meaning than they appear to contain on the surface…. The waterfall, for example, the encounter with the dog – the deeper meaning of these events in terms of Paulo’s quest and his life as a whole. This way of understanding the world, this way of translating events and circumstances – this way of walking the road of life – is that which comes most naturally to me.
It is almost like living in two realities at once. One reality is that which is governed by cause and effect – the reality that is generally accepted by society as the only reality. But then there is this whole other reality – this whole web of interconnected existence, where things point to other things (“signs”), or where one thing affects or “causes” another thing on a level that is not readily perceptible by the five senses (“synchronicity”) – there is this whole other dimension (or dimensions) on which we are living, and yet few seem to notice this. And this other dimension is not an “afterlife” or some “other place” – it is, rather, interwoven with the living moment, the here and now of our very existence.
The practices of RAM detailed in The Pilgrimage, the hints of The Tradition which we are afforded in this book, seem to me to point toward a deep recognition and understanding of this other dimension(s) or reality. That is what interests me.
I look forward to learning more in the future.
Thank you for this wonderful book, Paulo!
Sincerely,
And With Much Love,
Savita
Savita, I would say the same thing, only you said it so well and eloquently. That is also what interest me. I look forward to hearing more on it as well. Paulo said he would post on it later this year!
Love
C.
Dear Savita, thank you for this insightful comment. You have beautifully ‘summarized’ a whole philosophy. Yes past-present moment- and future are all ONE, in the Book of Life.
Take care my beautiful friend.
LOVE,
Thelma.
Hello Savita,
I like the way you think! I am less concerned with the context of the specifics of the story about RAM and the Tradition and the Templars and the sword. I wanted to read the book because I am fascinated by El Camino de Santiago de Compestela and want desperately to make that journey myself. What I liked so much in Paulo’s books is that each person can find their own meanings and messages relevant to their needs, situations and life through his stories because they are so complex. The human existence -our spiritual essence and development is uniquely personal and ever dynamic. In reading, I realized I have much prep-work to do before I should endeavor that journey. Not doing so would cheat my experience.
The RAM exercises are universal- others have discussed origins in various disciplines, including psychology. It’s the process that matters.
One’s sword- a metaphor. “Wherever is your treasure, there will be your heart” (p48) describes our personal quest- for peace, for love,power, knowledge- for whatever reward we seek- what we will risk everything for- that is what we truly love. It is necessary to surrender the idea that we are in CONTROL, in order to receive the great gifts God wants to give us (our sword?) It isn’t necessary to know HOW we will achieve or have something happen. We must only ask with a pure heart and believe God will give us what is best for us. Even when I haven’t gotten what I wanted, in hindsight, I’ve usually seen that it was a good thing it worked out the way it did because something else happened that was better.
How much nicer it is to receive a gift, than to grab something for ourselves. When I take or force something to happen- it never really seems all that great once I’ve gotten it- as opposed to when I’ve received it unexpectedly as a gift. At least that’s my thought, anyway.
Love to all,
Ana
I am interested in learning of the RAMbut till yet I am convinced I need no tradition for my spiritual search.
I have to correct myself:
Of course I have already learned something about the Tradition of RAM through Paulos “Conversations with the master”, which touched my soul in a very specific way. I have saved all explanations as well in my heart as on the computer. (I have also an ordner with your explanations and stories, Paulo. I saved all those that concerned my individual questions of the search and in some ways these are similar questions you once asked your master, Paulo.)
I guess the idea of the wol is also based on this Tradition.
In this sense I already have some insights and I would really like to know more. I considered my quest not as finished by far and I am ever thankful for more inspiration.
Love
Monika
Dear, Coelho!
Nowadays I am reading your books.
I finished reading .
Your words from soul was so beautiful. Thank you.
In RAM, is the practice done actually? Or Symbol?
It seems that RAM has very long tradition.
I need some more about that …What is it? A relligion? A way of living? A knwoledge? Is related in some ways to lost beliefs? I mean is it a thing from ancient worships form?As the Templiers?
I wont to know too. Can you to be our Marter?
Me too.
Thank you, Dearest Paulo.
Chris.
Hi Paulo,
I really love your books, thanks for the light that you bring to my life!
What does your master mean when he said “Trample the lion and the serpent, The lion cub and the dragon will make shoes for your feet”?
Why no comments here? Paulo, were you not going to talk about RAM?
Seems like there is definitely something more to it than just the exercises you talk about in the book. If they were only such exercises, one might as well call it meditation and yoga. But no, there is something more definitely, something secret that is not shared openly. Won’t you enlighten us Paulo?
I will Carolena. But I need a lot of time to explain, so probably I will make a post later this year
Paulo dearest!! Thank you so much!! I look forward to it with anticipation!
With love,
C.
Hello dearest Paulo,
I am still waiting and looking forward to your post.
Perhaps This year??
xxoo
We really look forward to it..
I will. But later this year.
love
Thank you.
Dear Paulo, may I ask you when did appear The Tradition, I mean RAM,if you do know from which period of time ? Just being curios and if you can add something about its roots, I will surelly appreciate.
Hoping to receive answer
Love
Alexandra
Hello Paulo :)
So RAM and the Templar rituals are part of the Tradition. So this does not make the Templars The Tradition, The Tradition would be older than the Templars, and this does not necessarily make you a Freemason, or would learning about the Tradition and getting a sword make one a Freemason??
love
C.
The initials J & B stand for St. John The Baptist? and he was the founder of this order of Masons/Freemasons? This is the same as The Tradition?
Jakin & Boaz, the two pilars in King Solomons Temple??
What is the significance of these temples? Is it related to The Tradition?
Oh so many questions!!
Dear Paulo, so you are a Knight of the Sword? 15 degree Mason?
Above I meant: ‘what is the significance of the Pilars, not the temples’!
Honestly, some traits of the novel might lead towards such ideas. I was wondering on that too. Than we have almost none chance to know more on that, as I know is really forbidden rvealing things about the ceremony or significance.
Hi Carolena!
I remember Paulo once said about secret societies, that there really are no secrets. Recently, I came over a book called; ‘The Templar Revelation. Secret guardians of the True Identity of Christ’ (1998) by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince. It might give you some clarifications, as it did me. It’s a historical approach for the most part, more than giving real life insight. It draws lines back to Egyptian’s Isis and explains some of the controversies in how to understand several central biblical figures, including St. John the Baptist and St. Mary Magdalene.
Heart
Lieber Freund!
Ich weiß, dass Du in den Pyrenäen bist und ich wünsche Dir wundervolle Erfahrungen und neue Erkenntnisse.
Ich habe mir gerade einige Seiten dieses blogs aus diesem Jahr angesehen. Und es wurde viel über die RAM gefragt und ich habe mich in einigen Fragen selber wieder erkannt:-) .Ich danke Dir für Deine Hilfe, die Du mir gibst und an der Beantwortung dieser Frage bin ich auch interesiert. Könntest Du mich darauf verweisen?
P. Coelho: “I will. But later this year”/July 17,2009 at 10:57 pm