coelho, while reading this book, you were my ’sign’ from the universe which says ‘ go find your soulmate, time has come, don’t hesitate anymore.’
i’ve always longed for my soulmate even when i was so depressed by people who prevented me from beliving something idylical,mystical.( but ‘true’.)
let me tell you some part of my history.
i’m 20.(female) when i was in school i couldn’t get along with other firends cause i liked to be alone. and i didn’t think they were my ‘ture mates’. our relaionship was not deep. i think you know what i mean.. actually many people do in their relaiontship with firends and lovers.
when i was younger , i hated being with that kind of people.
so i talked to myself alone in the room or somebody i admired or respected in front of their photo.( maybe it sounds strage to others , that’s why i was in my room alone when my family was not at home)
i talked to myself and them about something i believe and feeling sad for.
then i felt much better , and i began to feel like i can be with someone i long to be, like my future soulmate, even though i didn’t talk to anyone(real person).
it was kind of rite to me,, to believe dreams and soulmates.
you said in your book,
“the more you are close to yourself, the more you understand the world, and the more you are close to your self.”
i’m not sure that is exact sentence from the book.
anyway.. my situation is exactly like that sentence.
like i said, ‘the rite’ “helped” me. really.
but somehow.. it separated me, i mean.. it devided me into 2 personality. and.. it has made me feel like sometimes i’am zero (0), and sometimes 10(how can i say.. multi- personality..?) i had no idea who i relly was…and what i would like to be..
now. i am totally alone.i don’t contact with anyone but my one true mate. but it doesn’t mean i’m lonely.
i found my true friend(female) in my highschool.
we talked about serious, sincere isuue like our dreams and life and world and your books.
A force bigger than ours made us very intimate,, in a very deep way… so we call ourselves ’soulmate’ meaning ‘true friends, friendsihp.
but, still there is someone i have to meet.
like i said, my soulmate (male)..
now i feel like not just close to me,but i’m myself.soul.
thanks to my soulmate(female) and you and your book ‘Brida’ , i can feel and sure there can exist true frindship and love..
the time has come..
i’ll go find him abroad. .i’m leaving soon
there is a place i surely,strongly think there he is.
i have felt instinctively for over one year.
thank you. i think.. that’s all i need to say to you.
your books know also why i thank.
A tradição é muito bela ás vezes quando a lua está cheia me sinto mais forte capaz de vencer qualquer desafio,e quato ao ponto luminoso creio que ele realmente exista.
Hello Mr.Paolo i’ve read all your books!!!i found it very interesting and have read the books many many times…the recent book i have read is Brida.I cant thank u enough for publishing the book.im goin through the same journey and didnt understand wat i was goin through.but after reading the brida now everything started to make sense.im living in other part of the country…i loved all your books….n i hope u would publish more such books….ur sincere fan!!!
Hey I am a new fan of the man! I never knew how much I did not know!!!!!!!!! Would love to explore more about our soul gifts, but do not know where to go can you shed some light on this for me. I have been told by a massage teacher I have healing hands. I blew this off as airy fairy, however have massaged some people who have broke down and cried with joy over the improvement, they received from my hands.
I am a carpenter builder, money is good greed and fear stop me from persueing another path. Any advice muy friend? kind regards James
Right now I am in geographic limbo and approaching another spiritual dark night. I have always been drawn to a certain city, and was able to live in that city for a beautiful year. I found myself there, and really experienced magic for the first time that I could concsiously remember. However, the winds of fate blew me back to Arizona, and I can feel that things are coming to a rather quick close here. I am still drawn to the city of my dreams, despite the turbulance the last few months had brought, but nothing else is taking me there. We are in a full moon right now and for the first time in six weeks I can really feel the Presence moving in me. But fearing the step I need to take, and since there are no external signs leading me back to this city…I fear that I might lose it forever. I do not want to put my roots in Arizona (there is nothing wrong with this place, it’s just my heart is not with this state…it is with the other city, but nothing is telling me that it is okay to go back), but I may have to stay here. And the spiritual limbo I am in has to do with love. My soul mate has circled me once already…and I didn’t recognize that person. I think that person is back in the city I left behind. But then again, I am so scarred from the consistent history of abandonment and abuse I have received from past loves and even family, I am afraid I will never recognize my soulmate (all people good and bad look alike to me. I can’t tell the difference anymore, and my instincts are off because of the massive amount of manipulation and deception that I have had to endure for the greater part of my life)….how does faith see someone through darkness one has become accustomed to?
Loved your comment.
Maybe there are no visible signs, but what about your intuition?
I can feel you would like to be there. Magic indeed happens in that city for you. That’s enough to go back. As to darkness, forgive,wash away your soul with the water of forgiveness and your soul will get lighter and more open to life. The dissapointment is in the past which you can’t change, but you can change your present. Don’t be afraid of not recognizing your soulmate, you’re so sensitive I can feel you will. God loves you that much He will not allow that to happen. Rest in His arms like a child sleeping soundly in the arms of their father. I’m sending you all the love and peace I’m feeling from here hoping it can reach you.
Thank you so much Marta for your comforting words. After writing this comment I realized that the answers were right in the very question I was asking. I am so grateful for you and your words…I have to go on a road trip, and I will be able to meditate on your thoughts and my heart’s calling. Thank you again.
Rosemary
I was really moved by your comment, and my reply was the result of the ecstasy my soul mate provokes in me. I felt we both were in the same frequency. And yes, yesterday was full moon which is so special…
All the best
After writing this comment I realized that the answers were right in the very question I was asking. -> great quote! i felt same feelings when i write. :)
and i can feel too you’ll find recognize him. yes, you can, and you will.
I’ve just started reading Brida so don’t want to read all this thread as it may ruin the story. I’ve just finished Paulo’s biography and it explains many things. Also, as I’m Irish and Brida is Irish … I’m trying to figure things out… the book shop in Dublin , for instance!!!! The forest…..! Am I getting carried away???? Will keep you updated…
regards. Mary
“The Pilgrimage” has an intuition-building exercise in the RAM practices (I’ll let you find it) that I tried while reading the book. It is a pretty interesting sensation to let your right brain take over and find archetypes in the abstract. I’ve never had much of an issue with my intuition (aside from listening to it) but I really liked this exercise. Give it a try.
Marta’s comment on forgiveness is perhaps the most prudent here. What forgiveness can show you is that just like you, just like me, just like all of us, we are bound by our own limitations and those limitations create the negative interactions we perceive. See those people that hurt and abandoned you within the bounds of their own limitations (without judging them for it) and you will have achieved something incredibly powerful, which can open a door to clarity about the true nature of existence.
If you are looking for geographic limbo, I also recommend central Australia… makes Arizona look like New York City.
I understand you pretty well. My soulmate consigned me to hell, but I decided to make the most out of it. There was no point in denying what I felt because I knew he was the right one. I was able to understand his limitations as Shine says. I don’t blame him and keep the flame of this love alive because I feel it will lead me to meet another love. Even if this doesnt happen I can tell myself it was worth it. I run the risk, I did my best, I have great memories, and it made me grow. No room for regrets.
I don’t think a soulmate takes you to hell, that’s why I said I THOUGHT I met my soulmate twice.
When you are free everything goes on as always. There’s no looking back.
My pondering is over. Good luck with yours!!
As Dorothy in Oz: There’s no place like home, clap clap
… a funny thing about what we call wisdom: We think of it as this wonderful gift that we gain; a reward for our experiences, but it is more than just a Vegas t-shirt. It can cripple you if you let it. An aspect of wisdom is fear of experience. Once you know not to touch that red-hot burner because it hurts you’ll avoid it like root canal.
I’m processing this stuff as well and it isn’t easy. It is much easier and smarter to keep you heart guarded and that seems wise but we are missing out on the real beauty in life and that is connecting deeply. What I consider is that hearts need time to repair and if you can’t find forgiveness, they never will; the wounds will find ways to be reopened again and again. Jung says: dwell in your grief because there your spirit grows. I am angry and bitter and I will be until I am not anymore. The question becomes: how do I grow from this?
I liken love to surfing. You paddle into the wave and try to catch it, but sometimes it passes you by. If you do catch it you will feel the rush of it, ride it, but if you are swept up in it without some measure of control of yourself in that space, you end up smashing into the reef below and getting washed up on shore, deciding if you ever want to take your board out again.
There is an aspect of wisdom that I find critical in forgiveness and that is introspection. There are two parts to your statement, one overt, the other implied: You met your soul mate twice and both times it took you to hell; you met your soul mate twice and both times allowed yourself to be taken to hell. We are, none of us, victims as much of anyone else as we are of ourselves.
…and yet evil is just another face of life. We would never grow without such wonderous dualisism. Funny thing though. You say you don’t think a soulmate takes you to hell and yet mine did. Long is the road… but I have learned so very much. Where would I be without such treachery? I’m not celebrating it but I suppose that one day I’ll look back on it with an appreciation for the path onto which it sent me.
I am currently undergoing an extreme and tumultuous spiritual journey. I have sought guidance in the wrong places, distractions of all kinds, a constant yearning and harassment by the need to find some wisdom and contentment.
This is proving difficult because I live in the public eye and am so consumed with my own drive and ambition but also my equally prevalent laziness, that I find myself often overwhelmed with a sense that I am achieving no progression.
I have been reading lots of Paulo Coelho, Terry Pratchett and other interesting modern literature such as A Million Little Pieces lately that leave me with a sense of clarity but also an even greater need to possess the wisdom I so desperately yearn for.
I would like to explore the Tradition of the Moon and I would like to do this with guidance. How do I go about finding a Magus to facilitate this growth of my soul and subsequent spiritual needs?
I thank you in advance for any help you can offer.
Dude, you look cool on that picture. “Fiddler on the roof” getting your bows and arrows ready hey? FInding your true North!
Keep looking!
Loved that book “A million little pieces”.
;) ;) :)
I understand how you are feeling at the moment , cause I was in similar situation , I recommend to read the warnings that appear at the very beggining of the book , Do not try it !
hello Jeff,
i understand what you are saying and maybe i can help you by writing about what i experienced.
The most important thing is to actually set the first step. As soon as you move one little bit things around you move too and there won’t be a problem anymore. Thats the way it works in your job, it works like that in all fields.
So if are you looking for a guide, you should go and find one and as you say you are already on your way. There is many false prophets indeed. So many people wish to be guides and teachers and they need you to believe in them so they can believe in themselves.
When i was 19 i met a woman and served as her apprentice for almost 5 years. It took me 20 more to overcome the damage it did. So finding your Master is tricky and of the greatest importance. How to find a good Master? It’s a matter of just looking with your eyes wide open and not be lured astray by desire to find someone right now. If you are looking you will find the right one.
How do you spot the wrong ones? Vanity is easily spotted! Do they need you? Then they are probably just looking just as hard as you are to find the right way.
Also people who make a job of being guides and need to be paid should be mistrusted. They can teach you ways and means like a spanish teacher helps you to learn the language, but the essence is not in the ways and means, it is in the soul of the matter.
Obviously i don’t agree with Guillermo to stick to the bible, but i do think it offers some great advice, like a tale suitable in regard to paying ones teachers. Remember the scene at the temple where Christ is asked if people should be paying taxes and he answeres to give to the Caesor what belongs to Ceasar. Money belongs to this world and has no bearing on the invisible you want to connect to.
The woman that i was with taught me a lot of ways and means but not how to use them properly and with respect. It is very easy to use them wrong. It takes discipline and a clean heart not to be tempted.
Vanity and gain are great temptations and they can lead you of your path for decennia as i found out. In Paulos book he desribes how the Magician has to suffer solitude, there is many ways of suffering. Not everyone who uses the powers wrong gets to live in a forest obviously. There is an unthinkable lot of ways how the universe can turn on you when you abuse the powers you learned. Paulo is very rigth to stess not to force anyone to stay or to leave. It seems so easy yet it is so hard to do. He is also quite right stating that when you abused your power you can’t just shrug your shoulders and move on in another direction. You have to go through it no matter how long it takes. So i’d advise to beware and stay away from anything to do with santorini or to do with Marie Laveaux and voodoo stuff for these practices are very easy to do and more harmful then you can imagine. i don’t know how the people that practice handle it all but i can’t imagine it does much good.
The right teacher? i think the best way is to ask around. Not through esoteric centers and commercialized esoteric fares but through meeting with people who are on an individual spiritual path.
Good luck and let us know how you fare will you ;)
Kabir knew this: … near the breastbone there is an open flower, eat the honey that is all around that flower. Translation: Your heart has the answers if you but know the question. I’m always curious when someone says they wish to follow a path that they know, really, little about. I find that if you are searching for a teacher, you will find …someone blabbing something or other because they are out there, but probably not the one you really want. Wisdom dictates that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear and I’ve always found that to be true. If you are searching blindly, you’ll probably only find blindness.
My recommendation: If you are serious about finding a spiritual path, ask your heart first, because your heart knows best what you are seeking. Truth be told, any undertaking is a path to some spiritual growth, be it yoga, meditaton or brewing beer. Your only limitation is your desire, the will to overcome the Shadow and find spiritus mundi.
Sorry if this sounds harsh; it isn’t my intention, but true wisdom is the result of diligence, introspection and will and it sounds like you have a road to travel here; as do I. Start within yourself and find the question that needs to be asked and the teacher will arrive to help you find the answer (not give it to you).
Don Juan Matus once noted “…all paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths leading through the bush and into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long, long paths, yet I am not anywhere.” What he went on to say was: only the path that had a heart — a true meaning to your own life — was the only relevant path; be it magic or something else…
I found Brida near the Spring Equinox, or Ostara, of this year. It was on Beltane that I had finished reading. It then took me until just last week to follow up that reading. I went to my local library in search of books. I did find one that I quite like, but I wonder if there are any suggestions of books and resources. Blessed be.
Namaste,
I see the Tradition of the Moon as a metaphor for religion in general. When we study a religion, we have more apparent structure and externally based organization to our path. It offers more defined tools for facing the Dark Night, perhaps.
I’m aware of the teachings of the Tradition separate from this metaphor, but I think it holds meaning even for those who are not interested in magic and its path… but since I see life as magic I can’t imagine anyone not interested in magic. LOL Anyway, I read this with great interest.
Brida did not stay with Magus, cuz they’re soulmates, Magus needed to learn what he learned from Brida, and vice versa, its was written, destined, she had to show him a way or say, teach him something and he needed to show her the way and teach her something, they had to meet-it was destiny, he will have her and she will have him, they didn’t part ways forever and Brida said that she will learn the Tradition of the Sun from him, and he will teach her that, and they will meet again for sure be in another birth, love is not to hold on to one person, be possessive, its about letting go, that’s what the Magus did with Wicca, and that’s what he learnt from Brida…Brida loved him, and will love him forever and she will love Lorens too, the Magus will love her back too more than anybody all the time not even knowing it in next birth maybe, but his soul will know…And may be they will meet in some other life and get married have kids evolve spiritually and be happy…Its wonderful how people realize things…It all happens so neatly, faith.God bless.
both traditions are very intersting. how can one get in touch with RAM? how can one become an apprentice of the tradition? it moves me towards this knowledge and the teachings.
The Tradition of the Moon made me remember a poem about the things that veiled are more clear to us that the unhidden things, because the hallo that sorounds them, as is the case of Moon , just show to us what we need to see, maintaining the magic . Maybe I love that how it sounds, because of my Romantic nature, and we know Romantic poets writers love Moon.
Hello Alexandra! so true, I am familiar with that quote and for the life of me cannot remember it.
Yes, love the Moon, I think I am more with the Tradition of the Moon than the Sun… But I would say it varies, when the Sun is out, it’s the Sun and when the Moon is out, it’s the Moon! ;)
Love,
C.
In my opinion ,The Tradition of the Sun is the way of common people. Everybody can have access on it, as Annie states above. I don’t think that it condemns fear because all of us feel it and it’s not healthy to deny it, but I think it encourages us to go on in spite of it. And to me, no doubt , it celebrates love which is the greater force that keeps us heading toward the unknown. In order to follow it it’s necessary to have faith as Paulo beautifully describes Saint John of ths Cross’ Dark Night. I also understand that if it’s the way of ordinary people it has to do with the awareness that are simple things that are worth it, that we should view the world in a simple way and humbly accept that we’re here to manifest God through our Gifts. I know it is developed through different stages which I think are the four paths mentioned in The Pilgrimage. However, it must be like that for us Christians, but there must be something similar for the the other religions because the spiritual quest is more far-reaching than religions. Furthermore, to me , many people follow it without truly realizing it, the same way many found the philosopher’s stone without having ever heard of Alchemy.
Love
Adriana
I believe that the Tradition of Sun and Moon are one of the different means to the same end. What I would like to post here is about the Dark Night. The way paulo coelho puts it made me realize in my Darkest moments of life, that it is not the first time that I am in Dark, I have been through it, travelled along it before and I can do that Again, Again.. and Again.. gave me the courage to proceed with my Life. Thanks, to Paulo.
The main thing with Dark Night is ‘Faith’ to lead the life and realise it. I feel to take either Tradition of Sun or Moon and continue through it one must have Faith, without it one is lost.
I must admit that I feel a little lost in this discussion of the two traditions, because I know nothing of either. The first time I ever heard of them was recently, in reading Brida. Even at that, I would probably have to reread the book to get it all straight in my head, as I was so completely focused in the first reading upon the subject of Soul Mates.
At any rate, I would have to say that the Magus’ path just naturally appeals to me more than the path which Wicca taught. I can understand the forest, the elements, the various aspects of nature as teachers. I think I could just sit and watch the rising and setting of the sun and moon for months, and in that simple act, gain some understanding of the Mysteries of the Universe and my own soul. And even man-made objects, various situations and circumstances that arise in daily life…(as silly as it may sound) even the furniture in my house and the way that I interact with it, this becomes a revelation. But when I think of rituals and ceremonies – all the things that seemed to be a very big part of Wicca’s tradition – I suppose I could engage in those things, but I don’t think it would come very naturally to me. I would have to work at, very hard, and still I’m not sure that I would be able to stick with it.
So which was which? I have to look back at the book, because now I’ve forgotten which was the Tradition of the Sun and which was the Tradition of the Moon – which was Wicca’s path and which was the path of the Magus?
Savita, I don’t really understand it clearly myself. I remember Wicca being in the Tradition of the Sun and the Magus that of the Moon.
Although I thought that at any point in ones life, a person can go through either or, depending what is suitable to them at that time. Is that so?
I am also gravitating towards the tradition of the Moon, although that of the sun seems fun sometimes. Ok, i’m just speaking out of intuition here because I do not fully comprehend the two traditions. Won’t someone enlighten us?
Dear Savita and Carolena: Wicca is the Tradition of the Moon and it is knowledge.
The Magus is the Tradition of the Sun and it is wisdom.
You can learm from both: knowledge and experience in the life with “Intuition”
Kises for you two.
Wicca is rather a Very new religion, founded just around 1940’s based on the Old Religion. The word Wicca means Knowledge yes, and is based on worship of the Moon, and why it is knowledge is because in the olden days, the Moon revealed many things, not only was time measured by the revolution of the Moon, one revolution around the earth equals a Month. Moon/Month. But also because it helped farmers know when it was the best time of the year to plant and harvest, to fish, to hunt and heal with herbs and such.
Wicca is Neo-Pagan, new pagan religion. Pagan religions are Earth or rather Nature based as in the olden days, they had the Sun and the Moon the Stars and the Skies to guide them.
Our Calendar is based on the Moon although not very accurately. Each day of the week is based on a celestial body;
Sunday- Sun day
Monday – Moon day
Tuesday- Mars
Wednesday-Mercury
Thursday-Jupiter
Friday-Venus
They were named based on the seven heavenly bodies visible to the naked eye, whichever was more prominent on that day.
Why does everyone dread Mondays, Blue Mondays… well, in the olden days, Mondays was a time of going back inside the home, of cleaning, and preparing for the week and taking care of internal necessities. Nowadays it’s time to go back to work, it didn’t used to be Blue Mondays. It was rather a good day to cook, clean, regroup and such. Anyways, I’m getting sidetracked a bit.
So, that I’m aware of, but as with any Pagan belief, each has it’s own set of certain values… and so I want to know the specifics of the Tradition of the Moon and Sun that Paulo is talking about in Brida.
Dear Carolena I know Wicca is a Religion and I know the correlatión the planets with the weck´s days but thank you for yours Knowledge and when you wont you can tell us more from Wicca´s Religion ok.
Kises for you I like learm.
I’d love to tell you more about Wicca, but I do not belong to any covenant, so I do not practice according to any specific doctrines. I am just a free soul, who believes in the Universal Power, God, Love, Goddess, everything intertwined. I follow the Earth and the plants and the Sun and the Moon. That’s pretty much it. If you know anything, I’d also like to know.
Thank you Rosa.
Hildegard, Hi! I did not understand what you said about it being now, and you’re welcome!
Tradition of the Moon can help with meeting like minded people. I think people who are strong with communication and social interaction are good with the Moon. It is learning and going to a campus, but not like any other campus.
because her boyfriend is also her soulmate. I think it’s also because it is the right thing. She her love for the magus is not as deep as that to her bf…and afterall she is in a commitment (I prefer it than relationship) :D
I am also very interested in going deeper in these subject matters, reflected upon in the book. I feel more connected to the moon in general, but I agree with what was said before, that both traditions complement each other…polarities are inevitable, huh?
Looking forward to further discussion..and thanks for the initial insights!
Looking forward to discussion too, Cema! Any initiation of it will provide some answers in the end…
I think polarities ARE inevitable, because we live in the world of polarities: Sun-Moon, man-woman, day-night, good-evil, +/- and so on.
In conflict, we usually align ourselves with one of them, pointing at the other as the opposite, or even antagonistic, often jumping from one extreme into the other and back.
It takes a bit of bravery and a good will not to let ourselves be thrashed onto rocks at each side, thinking we are unable to do anything. In fact, we should just raise a bit above both of them and perceive them at the same time.
Acting that way, we always spot the safe passage in between, manage to reach the holy ground, having learned a lot in the process, because we have understood both – our reaction and the reaction of the opposite side.
I use that way to learn, by being aware of both of my own opposite sides, or me vs someone else. If we learn the lesson of the moment, we have won each battle, no matter what it looked like to the other people around.
After living and acting that way, being AWARE during such moments, we eventually adopt the fact we can benefit from all our inner adversities, and learn how to hold a team of black and white horse by the reins, to drive us further.
And, by the way, if there were not “+” and “-”, we would not have electric current, for in order to make electricity flow, we need both of them…
Yes…to raise above both of them and perceive them at the same time…the sun is the moon is the sun…and their differences makes it possible to raise above both???
On my path, I have discovered that Tradition of The Sun suits me better, because I find it being easier not to depend on rituals.
However, there are people following The Path of The Moon I am in contact with, and seek guidance when got stuck on my own path.
In my own experience, both traditions complement each other, like man and woman or Anima and Animus inside each of us…
Last sping i was at a meeting with the Dalai Lama and the pure joyfulness of what we here call the Tradition of the Sun is heartwarming and a great way to knowledge and understanding. But it is a male way. definately male. Also it takes a lot of discipline i think, more discipline then rituals certainly. Or maybe just the type of discipline that comes easier to man than to woman?
As a young girl I was always obsessed with the moon, and as I have matured, I am still drawn to it spiritually. In Celtic Astrology, my sign is actually ruled by the moon. In my rising and regular astrological signs the moon plays a very prominent role as well. Perhaps, these variables have something to do with whether or not one follows the Tradition of the Sun or the Tradition of the Moon.
Ohhh. Please share more. Bit more about RAM . I remember a quote I already copied from “The Journal of a Magus”, where Petrus explained the meanings of each letter form RAM. Was only at a second reading that I was aware of that part. I loved the explanation.I read the book not in English, so now I wont risk a bad translation of my own. Take care
Love
Alexandra
I feel an instinctive lure to the Tradition of the Moon, and have been reading up on it over the net lately. I have a few books on Wicca, but as I also am interested in Advaita and Buddhism, I am wondering how it all “fits” – for me that is. That is only a question I can answer for myself obviously. I feel rituals, symbolism and mysticism only point to a deeper truth, a deeper understanding, a more spiritually enriching existence. Ultimate truth is indeed a “pathless path”. It is the final leap we make into the unknown.
But often, subconsciously, even in my artwork, I notice recurring themes of femininity, psychic power, otherwordliness, the Goddess (Greek and Egyptian esp) emerge and so have this semi-remembered link I need to explore.
Oh, thank you, thank you! because I have tried to Google it, tried to find reference to it in all sorts of books on the occult, but have come up completely empty handed in every attempt to learn more. Truly, it must be a “secret” order. Hardly anything is so secret in these days of the internet.
Is these traditions (of the Moon and of the Sun) the other practices of RAM that compliment those of The Pilgrimage? This was what I understood..Am i wrong??
So does the Tradition of the Sun compliment those practices mentioned in the Pilgrimage?
And since RAM basically teaches the Tradition of the Sun, that means that everyone has access on it! SO is it a simple Tradition in comparison with the Tradition of the Moon?
But I wonder,is this Tradition of the Sun learned only when one begins to walk his path? and Is this tradition learned only when we have faith (i m referring to the dark night) in us and in the Universe, despite heading towards an unknown territory? is this a tradition that condemns fear (of the unknown or failure) and celebrates Love? Maybe i m wrong again!
And can someone experience both the Traditions? as the Magus learned the Tradition of the Moon , but taught the Tradition of the Sun?or one is best to follow one of them?
Thank you all for the reply.
I got your messages today; my Teacher’s Birthady (I must remember to light a candle to the Black Virgin for him today, to celebrate).
In the Tradition of the Sun this should be a sign.
So Paulo, as you wrote to me some years ago, this means I’ve made another step in my path.
And I’ve got a gift from you (your anwers) in the day of my Teacher.
May Love shine on you and your world, as a blue globe, forever.
Christina
I believe that when we look for love courageously, it reveals itself, and we attract even more love. If one person really wants us, everyone does. But if we’re alone, we become even more alone. Life is strange…
coelho, while reading this book, you were my ’sign’ from the universe which says ‘ go find your soulmate, time has come, don’t hesitate anymore.’
i’ve always longed for my soulmate even when i was so depressed by people who prevented me from beliving something idylical,mystical.( but ‘true’.)
let me tell you some part of my history.
i’m 20.(female) when i was in school i couldn’t get along with other firends cause i liked to be alone. and i didn’t think they were my ‘ture mates’. our relaionship was not deep. i think you know what i mean.. actually many people do in their relaiontship with firends and lovers.
when i was younger , i hated being with that kind of people.
so i talked to myself alone in the room or somebody i admired or respected in front of their photo.( maybe it sounds strage to others , that’s why i was in my room alone when my family was not at home)
i talked to myself and them about something i believe and feeling sad for.
then i felt much better , and i began to feel like i can be with someone i long to be, like my future soulmate, even though i didn’t talk to anyone(real person).
it was kind of rite to me,, to believe dreams and soulmates.
you said in your book,
“the more you are close to yourself, the more you understand the world, and the more you are close to your self.”
i’m not sure that is exact sentence from the book.
anyway.. my situation is exactly like that sentence.
like i said, ‘the rite’ “helped” me. really.
but somehow.. it separated me, i mean.. it devided me into 2 personality. and.. it has made me feel like sometimes i’am zero (0), and sometimes 10(how can i say.. multi- personality..?) i had no idea who i relly was…and what i would like to be..
now. i am totally alone.i don’t contact with anyone but my one true mate. but it doesn’t mean i’m lonely.
i found my true friend(female) in my highschool.
we talked about serious, sincere isuue like our dreams and life and world and your books.
A force bigger than ours made us very intimate,, in a very deep way… so we call ourselves ’soulmate’ meaning ‘true friends, friendsihp.
but, still there is someone i have to meet.
like i said, my soulmate (male)..
now i feel like not just close to me,but i’m myself.soul.
thanks to my soulmate(female) and you and your book ‘Brida’ , i can feel and sure there can exist true frindship and love..
the time has come..
i’ll go find him abroad. .i’m leaving soon
there is a place i surely,strongly think there he is.
i have felt instinctively for over one year.
thank you. i think.. that’s all i need to say to you.
your books know also why i thank.
sincerely.
from Yoon-Jung
A tradição é muito bela ás vezes quando a lua está cheia me sinto mais forte capaz de vencer qualquer desafio,e quato ao ponto luminoso creio que ele realmente exista.
Hello Mr.Paolo i’ve read all your books!!!i found it very interesting and have read the books many many times…the recent book i have read is Brida.I cant thank u enough for publishing the book.im goin through the same journey and didnt understand wat i was goin through.but after reading the brida now everything started to make sense.im living in other part of the country…i loved all your books….n i hope u would publish more such books….ur sincere fan!!!
Hey I am a new fan of the man! I never knew how much I did not know!!!!!!!!! Would love to explore more about our soul gifts, but do not know where to go can you shed some light on this for me. I have been told by a massage teacher I have healing hands. I blew this off as airy fairy, however have massaged some people who have broke down and cried with joy over the improvement, they received from my hands.
I am a carpenter builder, money is good greed and fear stop me from persueing another path. Any advice muy friend? kind regards James
Right now I am in geographic limbo and approaching another spiritual dark night. I have always been drawn to a certain city, and was able to live in that city for a beautiful year. I found myself there, and really experienced magic for the first time that I could concsiously remember. However, the winds of fate blew me back to Arizona, and I can feel that things are coming to a rather quick close here. I am still drawn to the city of my dreams, despite the turbulance the last few months had brought, but nothing else is taking me there. We are in a full moon right now and for the first time in six weeks I can really feel the Presence moving in me. But fearing the step I need to take, and since there are no external signs leading me back to this city…I fear that I might lose it forever. I do not want to put my roots in Arizona (there is nothing wrong with this place, it’s just my heart is not with this state…it is with the other city, but nothing is telling me that it is okay to go back), but I may have to stay here. And the spiritual limbo I am in has to do with love. My soul mate has circled me once already…and I didn’t recognize that person. I think that person is back in the city I left behind. But then again, I am so scarred from the consistent history of abandonment and abuse I have received from past loves and even family, I am afraid I will never recognize my soulmate (all people good and bad look alike to me. I can’t tell the difference anymore, and my instincts are off because of the massive amount of manipulation and deception that I have had to endure for the greater part of my life)….how does faith see someone through darkness one has become accustomed to?
Loved your comment.
Maybe there are no visible signs, but what about your intuition?
I can feel you would like to be there. Magic indeed happens in that city for you. That’s enough to go back. As to darkness, forgive,wash away your soul with the water of forgiveness and your soul will get lighter and more open to life. The dissapointment is in the past which you can’t change, but you can change your present. Don’t be afraid of not recognizing your soulmate, you’re so sensitive I can feel you will. God loves you that much He will not allow that to happen. Rest in His arms like a child sleeping soundly in the arms of their father. I’m sending you all the love and peace I’m feeling from here hoping it can reach you.
Thank you so much Marta for your comforting words. After writing this comment I realized that the answers were right in the very question I was asking. I am so grateful for you and your words…I have to go on a road trip, and I will be able to meditate on your thoughts and my heart’s calling. Thank you again.
Many blessings,
Rosemary
Rosemary
I was really moved by your comment, and my reply was the result of the ecstasy my soul mate provokes in me. I felt we both were in the same frequency. And yes, yesterday was full moon which is so special…
All the best
After writing this comment I realized that the answers were right in the very question I was asking. -> great quote! i felt same feelings when i write. :)
and i can feel too you’ll find recognize him. yes, you can, and you will.
freindly
from Yoon-Jung
I’ve just started reading Brida so don’t want to read all this thread as it may ruin the story. I’ve just finished Paulo’s biography and it explains many things. Also, as I’m Irish and Brida is Irish … I’m trying to figure things out… the book shop in Dublin , for instance!!!! The forest…..! Am I getting carried away???? Will keep you updated…
regards. Mary
Getting carried away is wonderful, don’t worry about that. A
Lovely sharing souls…<3
“The Pilgrimage” has an intuition-building exercise in the RAM practices (I’ll let you find it) that I tried while reading the book. It is a pretty interesting sensation to let your right brain take over and find archetypes in the abstract. I’ve never had much of an issue with my intuition (aside from listening to it) but I really liked this exercise. Give it a try.
Marta’s comment on forgiveness is perhaps the most prudent here. What forgiveness can show you is that just like you, just like me, just like all of us, we are bound by our own limitations and those limitations create the negative interactions we perceive. See those people that hurt and abandoned you within the bounds of their own limitations (without judging them for it) and you will have achieved something incredibly powerful, which can open a door to clarity about the true nature of existence.
If you are looking for geographic limbo, I also recommend central Australia… makes Arizona look like New York City.
I understand you pretty well. My soulmate consigned me to hell, but I decided to make the most out of it. There was no point in denying what I felt because I knew he was the right one. I was able to understand his limitations as Shine says. I don’t blame him and keep the flame of this love alive because I feel it will lead me to meet another love. Even if this doesnt happen I can tell myself it was worth it. I run the risk, I did my best, I have great memories, and it made me grow. No room for regrets.
I don’t think a soulmate takes you to hell, that’s why I said I THOUGHT I met my soulmate twice.
When you are free everything goes on as always. There’s no looking back.
My pondering is over. Good luck with yours!!
As Dorothy in Oz: There’s no place like home, clap clap
… a funny thing about what we call wisdom: We think of it as this wonderful gift that we gain; a reward for our experiences, but it is more than just a Vegas t-shirt. It can cripple you if you let it. An aspect of wisdom is fear of experience. Once you know not to touch that red-hot burner because it hurts you’ll avoid it like root canal.
I’m processing this stuff as well and it isn’t easy. It is much easier and smarter to keep you heart guarded and that seems wise but we are missing out on the real beauty in life and that is connecting deeply. What I consider is that hearts need time to repair and if you can’t find forgiveness, they never will; the wounds will find ways to be reopened again and again. Jung says: dwell in your grief because there your spirit grows. I am angry and bitter and I will be until I am not anymore. The question becomes: how do I grow from this?
I liken love to surfing. You paddle into the wave and try to catch it, but sometimes it passes you by. If you do catch it you will feel the rush of it, ride it, but if you are swept up in it without some measure of control of yourself in that space, you end up smashing into the reef below and getting washed up on shore, deciding if you ever want to take your board out again.
There is an aspect of wisdom that I find critical in forgiveness and that is introspection. There are two parts to your statement, one overt, the other implied: You met your soul mate twice and both times it took you to hell; you met your soul mate twice and both times allowed yourself to be taken to hell. We are, none of us, victims as much of anyone else as we are of ourselves.
I really liked your surfing image. Completely agree with your beautiful comment.Thanks
Thank you… I just pull things out of strange places sometimes….
All I learn dear Shine (nice nick) is that evil exits… and is quite ugly!
…and yet evil is just another face of life. We would never grow without such wonderous dualisism. Funny thing though. You say you don’t think a soulmate takes you to hell and yet mine did. Long is the road… but I have learned so very much. Where would I be without such treachery? I’m not celebrating it but I suppose that one day I’ll look back on it with an appreciation for the path onto which it sent me.
I am currently undergoing an extreme and tumultuous spiritual journey. I have sought guidance in the wrong places, distractions of all kinds, a constant yearning and harassment by the need to find some wisdom and contentment.
This is proving difficult because I live in the public eye and am so consumed with my own drive and ambition but also my equally prevalent laziness, that I find myself often overwhelmed with a sense that I am achieving no progression.
I have been reading lots of Paulo Coelho, Terry Pratchett and other interesting modern literature such as A Million Little Pieces lately that leave me with a sense of clarity but also an even greater need to possess the wisdom I so desperately yearn for.
I would like to explore the Tradition of the Moon and I would like to do this with guidance. How do I go about finding a Magus to facilitate this growth of my soul and subsequent spiritual needs?
I thank you in advance for any help you can offer.
My kindest regards,
Jeff
Dude, you look cool on that picture. “Fiddler on the roof” getting your bows and arrows ready hey? FInding your true North!
Keep looking!
Loved that book “A million little pieces”.
;) ;) :)
Dear Jeff
I understand how you are feeling at the moment , cause I was in similar situation , I recommend to read the warnings that appear at the very beggining of the book , Do not try it !
Best wishes
Use another resources like the bible : )
hello Jeff,
i understand what you are saying and maybe i can help you by writing about what i experienced.
The most important thing is to actually set the first step. As soon as you move one little bit things around you move too and there won’t be a problem anymore. Thats the way it works in your job, it works like that in all fields.
So if are you looking for a guide, you should go and find one and as you say you are already on your way. There is many false prophets indeed. So many people wish to be guides and teachers and they need you to believe in them so they can believe in themselves.
When i was 19 i met a woman and served as her apprentice for almost 5 years. It took me 20 more to overcome the damage it did. So finding your Master is tricky and of the greatest importance. How to find a good Master? It’s a matter of just looking with your eyes wide open and not be lured astray by desire to find someone right now. If you are looking you will find the right one.
How do you spot the wrong ones? Vanity is easily spotted! Do they need you? Then they are probably just looking just as hard as you are to find the right way.
Also people who make a job of being guides and need to be paid should be mistrusted. They can teach you ways and means like a spanish teacher helps you to learn the language, but the essence is not in the ways and means, it is in the soul of the matter.
Obviously i don’t agree with Guillermo to stick to the bible, but i do think it offers some great advice, like a tale suitable in regard to paying ones teachers. Remember the scene at the temple where Christ is asked if people should be paying taxes and he answeres to give to the Caesor what belongs to Ceasar. Money belongs to this world and has no bearing on the invisible you want to connect to.
The woman that i was with taught me a lot of ways and means but not how to use them properly and with respect. It is very easy to use them wrong. It takes discipline and a clean heart not to be tempted.
Vanity and gain are great temptations and they can lead you of your path for decennia as i found out. In Paulos book he desribes how the Magician has to suffer solitude, there is many ways of suffering. Not everyone who uses the powers wrong gets to live in a forest obviously. There is an unthinkable lot of ways how the universe can turn on you when you abuse the powers you learned. Paulo is very rigth to stess not to force anyone to stay or to leave. It seems so easy yet it is so hard to do. He is also quite right stating that when you abused your power you can’t just shrug your shoulders and move on in another direction. You have to go through it no matter how long it takes. So i’d advise to beware and stay away from anything to do with santorini or to do with Marie Laveaux and voodoo stuff for these practices are very easy to do and more harmful then you can imagine. i don’t know how the people that practice handle it all but i can’t imagine it does much good.
The right teacher? i think the best way is to ask around. Not through esoteric centers and commercialized esoteric fares but through meeting with people who are on an individual spiritual path.
Good luck and let us know how you fare will you ;)
Kabir knew this: … near the breastbone there is an open flower, eat the honey that is all around that flower. Translation: Your heart has the answers if you but know the question. I’m always curious when someone says they wish to follow a path that they know, really, little about. I find that if you are searching for a teacher, you will find …someone blabbing something or other because they are out there, but probably not the one you really want. Wisdom dictates that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear and I’ve always found that to be true. If you are searching blindly, you’ll probably only find blindness.
My recommendation: If you are serious about finding a spiritual path, ask your heart first, because your heart knows best what you are seeking. Truth be told, any undertaking is a path to some spiritual growth, be it yoga, meditaton or brewing beer. Your only limitation is your desire, the will to overcome the Shadow and find spiritus mundi.
Sorry if this sounds harsh; it isn’t my intention, but true wisdom is the result of diligence, introspection and will and it sounds like you have a road to travel here; as do I. Start within yourself and find the question that needs to be asked and the teacher will arrive to help you find the answer (not give it to you).
Don Juan Matus once noted “…all paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths leading through the bush and into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long, long paths, yet I am not anywhere.” What he went on to say was: only the path that had a heart — a true meaning to your own life — was the only relevant path; be it magic or something else…
Best of luck in your search….
What is RAM??? what does it mean??? what does it present???
Love
Hanan
Some of the RAM practices are outlined in “The Pilgrimage”. Try looking there.
Thank you :) i will
i didnt get what is meant by the tradition of the sun and the tradition of the moon??? and who can we aquire the knowlege and the experince??? :(
I found Brida near the Spring Equinox, or Ostara, of this year. It was on Beltane that I had finished reading. It then took me until just last week to follow up that reading. I went to my local library in search of books. I did find one that I quite like, but I wonder if there are any suggestions of books and resources. Blessed be.
Namaste,
I see the Tradition of the Moon as a metaphor for religion in general. When we study a religion, we have more apparent structure and externally based organization to our path. It offers more defined tools for facing the Dark Night, perhaps.
I’m aware of the teachings of the Tradition separate from this metaphor, but I think it holds meaning even for those who are not interested in magic and its path… but since I see life as magic I can’t imagine anyone not interested in magic. LOL Anyway, I read this with great interest.
Love to you
How an I learn the tradition of the moon?
Brida did not stay with Magus, cuz they’re soulmates, Magus needed to learn what he learned from Brida, and vice versa, its was written, destined, she had to show him a way or say, teach him something and he needed to show her the way and teach her something, they had to meet-it was destiny, he will have her and she will have him, they didn’t part ways forever and Brida said that she will learn the Tradition of the Sun from him, and he will teach her that, and they will meet again for sure be in another birth, love is not to hold on to one person, be possessive, its about letting go, that’s what the Magus did with Wicca, and that’s what he learnt from Brida…Brida loved him, and will love him forever and she will love Lorens too, the Magus will love her back too more than anybody all the time not even knowing it in next birth maybe, but his soul will know…And may be they will meet in some other life and get married have kids evolve spiritually and be happy…Its wonderful how people realize things…It all happens so neatly, faith.God bless.
both traditions are very intersting. how can one get in touch with RAM? how can one become an apprentice of the tradition? it moves me towards this knowledge and the teachings.
Yes. I, too, would appreciate learning more about this “RAM”.
The Tradition of the Moon made me remember a poem about the things that veiled are more clear to us that the unhidden things, because the hallo that sorounds them, as is the case of Moon , just show to us what we need to see, maintaining the magic . Maybe I love that how it sounds, because of my Romantic nature, and we know Romantic poets writers love Moon.
Hello Alexandra! so true, I am familiar with that quote and for the life of me cannot remember it.
Yes, love the Moon, I think I am more with the Tradition of the Moon than the Sun… But I would say it varies, when the Sun is out, it’s the Sun and when the Moon is out, it’s the Moon! ;)
Love,
C.
In my opinion ,The Tradition of the Sun is the way of common people. Everybody can have access on it, as Annie states above. I don’t think that it condemns fear because all of us feel it and it’s not healthy to deny it, but I think it encourages us to go on in spite of it. And to me, no doubt , it celebrates love which is the greater force that keeps us heading toward the unknown. In order to follow it it’s necessary to have faith as Paulo beautifully describes Saint John of ths Cross’ Dark Night. I also understand that if it’s the way of ordinary people it has to do with the awareness that are simple things that are worth it, that we should view the world in a simple way and humbly accept that we’re here to manifest God through our Gifts. I know it is developed through different stages which I think are the four paths mentioned in The Pilgrimage. However, it must be like that for us Christians, but there must be something similar for the the other religions because the spiritual quest is more far-reaching than religions. Furthermore, to me , many people follow it without truly realizing it, the same way many found the philosopher’s stone without having ever heard of Alchemy.
Love
Adriana
I believe that the Tradition of Sun and Moon are one of the different means to the same end. What I would like to post here is about the Dark Night. The way paulo coelho puts it made me realize in my Darkest moments of life, that it is not the first time that I am in Dark, I have been through it, travelled along it before and I can do that Again, Again.. and Again.. gave me the courage to proceed with my Life. Thanks, to Paulo.
The main thing with Dark Night is ‘Faith’ to lead the life and realise it. I feel to take either Tradition of Sun or Moon and continue through it one must have Faith, without it one is lost.
I must admit that I feel a little lost in this discussion of the two traditions, because I know nothing of either. The first time I ever heard of them was recently, in reading Brida. Even at that, I would probably have to reread the book to get it all straight in my head, as I was so completely focused in the first reading upon the subject of Soul Mates.
At any rate, I would have to say that the Magus’ path just naturally appeals to me more than the path which Wicca taught. I can understand the forest, the elements, the various aspects of nature as teachers. I think I could just sit and watch the rising and setting of the sun and moon for months, and in that simple act, gain some understanding of the Mysteries of the Universe and my own soul. And even man-made objects, various situations and circumstances that arise in daily life…(as silly as it may sound) even the furniture in my house and the way that I interact with it, this becomes a revelation. But when I think of rituals and ceremonies – all the things that seemed to be a very big part of Wicca’s tradition – I suppose I could engage in those things, but I don’t think it would come very naturally to me. I would have to work at, very hard, and still I’m not sure that I would be able to stick with it.
So which was which? I have to look back at the book, because now I’ve forgotten which was the Tradition of the Sun and which was the Tradition of the Moon – which was Wicca’s path and which was the path of the Magus?
Savita, I don’t really understand it clearly myself. I remember Wicca being in the Tradition of the Sun and the Magus that of the Moon.
Although I thought that at any point in ones life, a person can go through either or, depending what is suitable to them at that time. Is that so?
I am also gravitating towards the tradition of the Moon, although that of the sun seems fun sometimes. Ok, i’m just speaking out of intuition here because I do not fully comprehend the two traditions. Won’t someone enlighten us?
Dear Savita and Carolena: Wicca is the Tradition of the Moon and it is knowledge.
The Magus is the Tradition of the Sun and it is wisdom.
You can learm from both: knowledge and experience in the life with “Intuition”
Kises for you two.
Dear Rosa de los vientos,
Wicca is rather a Very new religion, founded just around 1940’s based on the Old Religion. The word Wicca means Knowledge yes, and is based on worship of the Moon, and why it is knowledge is because in the olden days, the Moon revealed many things, not only was time measured by the revolution of the Moon, one revolution around the earth equals a Month. Moon/Month. But also because it helped farmers know when it was the best time of the year to plant and harvest, to fish, to hunt and heal with herbs and such.
Wicca is Neo-Pagan, new pagan religion. Pagan religions are Earth or rather Nature based as in the olden days, they had the Sun and the Moon the Stars and the Skies to guide them.
Our Calendar is based on the Moon although not very accurately. Each day of the week is based on a celestial body;
Sunday- Sun day
Monday – Moon day
Tuesday- Mars
Wednesday-Mercury
Thursday-Jupiter
Friday-Venus
They were named based on the seven heavenly bodies visible to the naked eye, whichever was more prominent on that day.
Why does everyone dread Mondays, Blue Mondays… well, in the olden days, Mondays was a time of going back inside the home, of cleaning, and preparing for the week and taking care of internal necessities. Nowadays it’s time to go back to work, it didn’t used to be Blue Mondays. It was rather a good day to cook, clean, regroup and such. Anyways, I’m getting sidetracked a bit.
So, that I’m aware of, but as with any Pagan belief, each has it’s own set of certain values… and so I want to know the specifics of the Tradition of the Moon and Sun that Paulo is talking about in Brida.
Thank you!
love,
C.
Dear Carolena I know Wicca is a Religion and I know the correlatión the planets with the weck´s days but thank you for yours Knowledge and when you wont you can tell us more from Wicca´s Religion ok.
Kises for you I like learm.
Hello Rosa,
I’d love to tell you more about Wicca, but I do not belong to any covenant, so I do not practice according to any specific doctrines. I am just a free soul, who believes in the Universal Power, God, Love, Goddess, everything intertwined. I follow the Earth and the plants and the Sun and the Moon. That’s pretty much it. If you know anything, I’d also like to know.
Thank you Rosa.
Hildegard, Hi! I did not understand what you said about it being now, and you’re welcome!
Love
C.
Forgot to include Saturday, but that’s pretty revealing:
Saturday – Saturn
Yes it is now dear Carolena thank you for the planet*days
Love
Hildegarde
Tradition of the Moon can help with meeting like minded people. I think people who are strong with communication and social interaction are good with the Moon. It is learning and going to a campus, but not like any other campus.
Dear Paolo,
I would like to know – in the book – if Brida loved the Magus – and he loved her – why did she go back to her boyfriend?
thanks
suni
Because the Magus never say: “Stay with me”
yeah i think he just kept on thinking that but he never said so!
:)
because her boyfriend is also her soulmate. I think it’s also because it is the right thing. She her love for the magus is not as deep as that to her bf…and afterall she is in a commitment (I prefer it than relationship) :D
she loves her bf and he is her soulmate. the magus knows this.
I am also very interested in going deeper in these subject matters, reflected upon in the book. I feel more connected to the moon in general, but I agree with what was said before, that both traditions complement each other…polarities are inevitable, huh?
Looking forward to further discussion..and thanks for the initial insights!
Paz
cema
Looking forward to discussion too, Cema! Any initiation of it will provide some answers in the end…
I think polarities ARE inevitable, because we live in the world of polarities: Sun-Moon, man-woman, day-night, good-evil, +/- and so on.
In conflict, we usually align ourselves with one of them, pointing at the other as the opposite, or even antagonistic, often jumping from one extreme into the other and back.
It takes a bit of bravery and a good will not to let ourselves be thrashed onto rocks at each side, thinking we are unable to do anything. In fact, we should just raise a bit above both of them and perceive them at the same time.
Acting that way, we always spot the safe passage in between, manage to reach the holy ground, having learned a lot in the process, because we have understood both – our reaction and the reaction of the opposite side.
I use that way to learn, by being aware of both of my own opposite sides, or me vs someone else. If we learn the lesson of the moment, we have won each battle, no matter what it looked like to the other people around.
After living and acting that way, being AWARE during such moments, we eventually adopt the fact we can benefit from all our inner adversities, and learn how to hold a team of black and white horse by the reins, to drive us further.
And, by the way, if there were not “+” and “-”, we would not have electric current, for in order to make electricity flow, we need both of them…
Yes…to raise above both of them and perceive them at the same time…the sun is the moon is the sun…and their differences makes it possible to raise above both???
…and when you raise above the Traditon of the Sun and the Moon what is becoming visible then…the Tradition of the Heart?
yes too many questions
xxx
On my path, I have discovered that Tradition of The Sun suits me better, because I find it being easier not to depend on rituals.
However, there are people following The Path of The Moon I am in contact with, and seek guidance when got stuck on my own path.
In my own experience, both traditions complement each other, like man and woman or Anima and Animus inside each of us…
Thank you for your wisdom dear Goldmund
xxx
Last sping i was at a meeting with the Dalai Lama and the pure joyfulness of what we here call the Tradition of the Sun is heartwarming and a great way to knowledge and understanding. But it is a male way. definately male. Also it takes a lot of discipline i think, more discipline then rituals certainly. Or maybe just the type of discipline that comes easier to man than to woman?
As a young girl I was always obsessed with the moon, and as I have matured, I am still drawn to it spiritually. In Celtic Astrology, my sign is actually ruled by the moon. In my rising and regular astrological signs the moon plays a very prominent role as well. Perhaps, these variables have something to do with whether or not one follows the Tradition of the Sun or the Tradition of the Moon.
Blessings,
Rosemary
Ohhh. Please share more. Bit more about RAM . I remember a quote I already copied from “The Journal of a Magus”, where Petrus explained the meanings of each letter form RAM. Was only at a second reading that I was aware of that part. I loved the explanation.I read the book not in English, so now I wont risk a bad translation of my own. Take care
Love
Alexandra
I feel an instinctive lure to the Tradition of the Moon, and have been reading up on it over the net lately. I have a few books on Wicca, but as I also am interested in Advaita and Buddhism, I am wondering how it all “fits” – for me that is. That is only a question I can answer for myself obviously. I feel rituals, symbolism and mysticism only point to a deeper truth, a deeper understanding, a more spiritually enriching existence. Ultimate truth is indeed a “pathless path”. It is the final leap we make into the unknown.
But often, subconsciously, even in my artwork, I notice recurring themes of femininity, psychic power, otherwordliness, the Goddess (Greek and Egyptian esp) emerge and so have this semi-remembered link I need to explore.
A fascinating subject…thank you for Brida!!
About traditions of the sun and moon.
One thing popped up in my mind:
We need the balance between them.
I also wish that I knew more about them.
But I also think we have the key inside our own heart, whatever tradition we choose.
We just have to listen to our heart whispering to us, and sometimes we can need some help how to do that.
Love Jessica
Yeap, wish o know more about it. Is that the one where the RAM techniques are used?
I am going to discuss RAM in a later post.
yehhii!!! :)
WONDERful!! :)
Oh thank you. I read something in “The Journal of a Magus”. Seemed same as in yoga or martial arts…
I like too learn about RAM. Thank you
Oh, thank you, thank you! because I have tried to Google it, tried to find reference to it in all sorts of books on the occult, but have come up completely empty handed in every attempt to learn more. Truly, it must be a “secret” order. Hardly anything is so secret in these days of the internet.
Is these traditions (of the Moon and of the Sun) the other practices of RAM that compliment those of The Pilgrimage? This was what I understood..Am i wrong??
RAM basically teaches the Tradition of the Sun (experience). The Tradition of the Moon is knowledge + rituals.
…so the Tradition of the Sun teaches through experience where the tradition of the moon is acquired knowledge through rituals?
So does the Tradition of the Sun compliment those practices mentioned in the Pilgrimage?
And since RAM basically teaches the Tradition of the Sun, that means that everyone has access on it! SO is it a simple Tradition in comparison with the Tradition of the Moon?
But I wonder,is this Tradition of the Sun learned only when one begins to walk his path? and Is this tradition learned only when we have faith (i m referring to the dark night) in us and in the Universe, despite heading towards an unknown territory? is this a tradition that condemns fear (of the unknown or failure) and celebrates Love? Maybe i m wrong again!
And can someone experience both the Traditions? as the Magus learned the Tradition of the Moon , but taught the Tradition of the Sun?or one is best to follow one of them?
Excuse me for the many questions, dear Paulo ..
Love and Graditude
Annie
I would love to hear more about RAM*
I’m looking forward to it.
Love
Christina
I’d also love to hear more about RAM… was it in the blog yet/did I miss it?
Love
no, it was not in this blog. And it is not in the web – if you ever see something (like a website) it is false
Oh, thank you dear Paulo for your reply * blush* :)
Will there be anything about it in the blog, or is it so secret that it can’t be in the blog?
Lots of love
Thank you all for the reply.
I got your messages today; my Teacher’s Birthady (I must remember to light a candle to the Black Virgin for him today, to celebrate).
In the Tradition of the Sun this should be a sign.
So Paulo, as you wrote to me some years ago, this means I’ve made another step in my path.
And I’ve got a gift from you (your anwers) in the day of my Teacher.
May Love shine on you and your world, as a blue globe, forever.
Christina