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Dont you think now its time for you totell more about tradition of sun?
i am very sad, because no one is telling me anything.
Hi, I am also reading Brida.
I want to learn Tradition of Sun/ Moon.
How can I do this?
Like most readers, I was enthralled by the godly traditions of sun and moon in the book ‘Brida’ (the 14th book by Pauolo) that I am still reading now. It is indeed enchanting and mesmerising. Afterall, it is a fiction book where we as readers need to discern and filter the contents that we can connect to rather than devouring all of it. His books provided some solutions to the strange phenomen, encounters and dreams that I have in my life. My bizarre and inexplicable dreams open the windows to the future to help me solve my personal problems and even commune with the spiritual world. I reckoned that I was mad and crazy until my late supportive mother convinced me that my dreams were true. Because of my dreams, I gave up my own career aspiration to spend more time with my late parents knowing that they would be gone soon. The message that I want to convey is that everyone is born with a gift to dream where our mind at the point of relaxation will guide us to live our life better. No point yearning to learn more about the mystically magic world which is meant for the choosen ones with special gifts. All of us can wave our own ‘magic’ wand on my present lives that feed the future.
what does it mean when you hear the Voice without performing any of the rituals that Brida did beforehand?? does it mean i have to follow the Tradition of the Moon?? if so which gift should i develop? and how can i tap deeper into the Mysteries especially if i don’t have a true Teacher to guide me?
Mr. Coelho how do we know which Tradition we need to follow?? how do we begin, especially if we can’t find a true Teacher? can books compensate for the guidance of a Teacher?
what does it mean when we hear the Voice without performing any of the rituals and practices which Brida did??
please can you explain? can we at last learn the truth of that which we name ‘hidden’?
Wow, for so many Indians wanting to follow the Traditions… there are witch teachers in India …Have you’ll heard of Maya Wicca tradition? There’s a lot of magick here… but always remember.. the teacher will arrive only when the student is ready..Following your heart is easy. Just follow your signs and your past life memories will help you and you will know what you need to do.
Harm none and live with everlasting love,
How can i know that i can do all this. I just feel something, what I don’t know. please read my other posts. So you can know what all is happening. May be you could help me.
why aren’t you people telling me?
something happened Saturday night, i dont know what i was trying to communicate with nature. i lost in that what happened i dont know. my friend told me that i took totaly one hour and i dont remember where was i, what i was doing, what was in my mind. when i got in my conscious i was siiting on my bed in my camp. i was sitting there for almost more than half hour. what was that i dont know. can u explain. i really need to know. i am totaly baffeld. HELP ME.
please tell me something, which i need to listen. i feel as i am wasting it all, my time, my energy, my imagination because i am not doing anything. what shoud i do what should i start what should happen. because the thing has come to my heart means there would surely be something. my head is rolling.
Paulo Coelho
Sir,
and friends,
i am a student and i cannnot afford expensive books.so can u please suggest a book from which i can learn something about magic,because till date its always broken incomplete information for me and nature being my only teacher,its very difficult to follow the path of tradition on sun but even more difficult to abandon it. so please help.
Hi,
is that all true i mean magic and all. i feel something i mean as diffrent in me only. but dont know any of it. does it happen that you have no soulmate i mean you get no one in your life, when your are desperate not for a girl but to have your own part besides. my tarot reader told me that i dont have my soulmate. got very dis hearted, felt like a pang. please say something. i really need to listen something.
i wish i can meet a teacher
bt as said the teacher arrives when the student is ready,i will wait patiently 4 the arrival
How can you tune in to a sun?
Use a sun dial
I have the impression that one can follow the tradition of the sun quite intuetively. For example I’m postive that my mother is an unconscious follower of that tradition. She never was engaged into magic, but all that she taught me about life, love, and faith resembles so much of what I found about the tradition of the sun in Brida. She rests in herself so much and is filled with so much optimism about anything in her life. It was life and experience that taught her. I just don’t know if you can follow the path to its end without a guide. Can you learn the tradition all by yourself, or do you need a physical teacher at some point?
hey,
hi Hanah!i totaly understand your quest for eternal knowledge after reading brida. i feel that one needs a physical teacher when it comes to learning spiritual activities that awaken your soul and connect it to that of the god’s.it sounds complicated though but one truly needs a spiritual teacher for this as one can only be misguided without a proper teacher.
love
deepika
NAMASTEY.
Im Aditya from India… i jus scrolled down and read all your comments.. all what i feel personally are searching for a tradition to follow… a path to traverse… after readin paulo’s books i enter into a world of imagination.. and feel fascinated… though i havent had any of such experiences but one thing which im happy about is.. i have a GURU.. a TEACHER.. and all i have to do is follow the teachings… i pray for all of u.. that u may get a LIVING GURU soon.. in this very life time
aditya
20yrs
undergraduate
b.d.s
wow you’re blessed. i hope i’ll have one too :D
Bom dia Guerreiro!
Encontrei uma oração muito linda, vou deixar aqui para vc, espero q goste…tem tudo a ver com o encontro do sagrado no cotidiano, pelas mãos femininas…
Brida é um dos seus livros q mais amo…
Deus te ilumine Guerreiro!
“Senhor, dono das panelas e marmitas, não posso ser a santa que medita aos vossos pés. Não posso bordar toalhas para o vosso altar. Então, que eu seja santa ao pé do fogão. Que o teu amor esquente a chama que eu acendi e faça calar minha vontade de gemer a minha miséria. Eu tenho as mãos de Marta, mas quero também ter a alma de Maria. Quando eu lavar o chão, lava, Senhor, os meus pecados. Quando eu puser na mesa a comida, come também, Senhor, junto conosco. É ao meu Senhor que sirvo, servindo minha família”.
( Oração de uma camponesa de Madagascar, citada por Dom Alberto Taveira Corrêa, Arcebispo Metropolitano de Belém do Pará, em post publicado no site da Canção Nova em 25/08/2010 )
Link do artigo completo aqui: http://www.cancaonova.com/portal/canais/formacao/internas.php?id=&e=11990
Hello,
i dont understand one thing. Its in my mind for many many years. From the time i started reading C. Castaneda. I wanted and want to meet a teacher who can guide me in all these matters of ‘magic’ but until now i met none. In the books they say and here i saw that the teacher is looking for me as well but as i said i still havent met one. Why is so? One can say im not prepared to meet one but that is always a nice comfy reply :) Or life wants me to find myself on my own on purpose?
What i found was that the life and me are my teachers, including one person i love most of all and who by refusing to be with me opened my eyes for myself even more than all the books ive read. Then i found that the nature is also a teacher and a healer and that theres a connection of sort between people and nature. Connection experienced through will and believe i might say. Finally the other weird teacher for me was the dream. There i was thought some lessons and have met some creatures which changed my personality and view over some matters.
So in the light of the above said is it following that i am a follower of the Tradition of the Sun?
Happiness to all
To all:
A teacher is not always a person. If everyone thinks they need to wait for a “teacher” , then time passes and you miss the teachers in front of you. Teachers can be nature, a homeless person walking by, someone stopping to ask directions; an animal. You may find a “person” but even they are just a person. They can spur you on your quest as a guide, but only as a guide. All learning comes from within. Even with Brida: she was “led” to have a past life regression. She found her own gift. She could have done this spontaneously on her own as well…and probably would have. I had a dog approach me once, while on a quest to see a healer in Brazil. The dog led me all around the hills and terrain. I was afraid at times, thinking I was lost. He was always a few feet in front of me, looking back and would bark if I was afraid to follow into the unknown. He allowed me to get over my fear of cows, as we approached a herd and I was afraid to go near them. He barked and tried to move the cows away..which did not work. Then he led me right near the cows, slowly, to a hole in the barbed wire fence, that I could fit through…to pass the herd. I could go on an on. I have had these experiences many, many times in my life (45 now). If you want to learn…ask…you will be guided in many ways..by many, many things. A teacher also has biases..and may also lead you “astray”.
“los sentimientos son como caballos salvajes” mas claro no pudo ser! mis sentimientos asi son! y varias veces me sentia desepcionada de mi porque no tenia las riendas para manejar esos caballos(sentimientos), al leer el libro, me di cuenta que no tengo que preocuparme por tratar de controlarlos ya que es algo “sin control”… algo muy padre! ahora en vez de tratar de controlarlos, disfruto de su salvajez!
otra cosa que aprendi y que se me quedo en mi cerebrito, es como en vez de decir “la ultima vez que nos vimos” deveriamos decir “la vez mas reciente que nos vimos”
aun no termino el libro pero como estaba teniendo pocas dificultades entendiendo las tradiciones, queria clarificarlo antes de continuar.. pero a lo que pude ver, todo marcha bien con mi lectura :)
Namaste
sir please tell us something more about these traditions as u said u’ll comment later this year.. about RAM and Tradition of the Sun and Tradition of the Moon .. plz plz plz
I still dont understand the tradition of the sun and the moon… and am so confused … anybody can explain???
Thx
Hanan
I think the Tradition of the Sun is the easiest to see, and the most difficult to live.
The most difficult things to learn, are the most obvious.
It’s difficult to learn by everday’s life, because we generally don’t pay too much attention to it.
On the other hand, when we find a master who put him/herself on a higher level, our attention is caught, and we “learn”.
Simple things are the most difficult to “understand” completely, especially for adults, while children learn easier, cause they allow knowledge to fullfill them, and they have no prejudices.
That’s why Jesus said that the most complete Faith is the Faith of children.
Love.
Chris
Namaste,
The Tradition of the Sun seems to be the path of Faith more than knowledge. In physical terms it’s more right brained… not so much verbal. More intuitive. It’s as if the Magus absorbed the world emotionally. His words were brief and to the point because of that. He allowed experience to teach Brida what she needed to know from his tradition.
When I read it this last time, I was reminded of the Rabbi and his son in Chaim Potok’s The Chosen. The boy absorbed knowledge like a sponge, so his father taught him empathy through silence. In some ways, the Magus’ teacher was teaching him through silence as well.
Love to you
“La Tradición del Sol se revela siempre a todos los que miran al mundo como si lo estuviesen viendo por primera vez”. Brida de Paulo Coelho
Una de las más importantes lecciones de la Tradición del Sol era el Amor. El amor era el único puente entre “lo invisible y lo visible”.
Del libro de Brida de Paulo Coelho.
I did the the Via Francigena from Pavia to Rome I was alone for 21 days before I meet any other pilgrims. I found my gift, but I do not know if I should do the tradition of the moon or the sun… According to the book it depends on the gift. So wich gift goes with what?
Love Malin, yes you know me, I am still here.
Malin
I think that people who are able to develop one of the nine spiritual Gifts mentioned in St. Paul’s First Epistle to the Corinthians should follow the Tradition of the Moon first. I don’t mean by this that they should be exclusively devoted to this tradition, because in the book is mentioned that , in fact , both traditions are the same and the only difference is the way of learning. Later on , these people might follow the tradition of the Sun too. On the other hand, The Tradition of the Sun is the way of common people, people who have no a strong inclination toward the development of the above mentioned gifts. Everybody on Earth has a Gift: be it writing, teaching, painting, repairing things, and it is through these that God’s garden is built up by ordinary men and women who usually don’t realize the greatness of their way of serving the world . This is what I understood from the book.
However, in The Magus the author of the book states that these two ways lead to the same place : the magical knowledge understood as the ability to use certains gifts that NOT every human being is able to develop, which is a contradiction to what I understood in Brida concerning the Tradition of the Sun. By the way, in The Magus the Tradition of the Moon is called The tradition of the Serpent and the other one the Tradition of the Dove in which all should depend on a Master. So maybe it’s better to wait for Paulo to refer to these things soon as he said .
Love
Adriana
To be perfectly honest I could call myself a true believer in magic in everyday life. Ever since I read Brida my focus is on 2 things – the spiritual gift and the soulmate. Before I read your comment I thought you have to have a master and follow a certain tradition and along the way you will find your gift and develop it, and hopefully that also means you will find your spolmate.
But your post, Malin, intrigued me very much. You say you’ve found your gift on the Via Francigena pilgrimage, right? (I know Paolo begins ‘Brida’ with the mention of the same pilgrimage, that’s how he met her, actually)
My question is – HOW?!!? You obviously did not follow a tradition and you say you are looking for your master so how did you manage to find yor gift on your own? Did you have a guide like Paolo did in ”The Pilgrimage”? To put it in a words of an eager five-year-old trapped in a 22-year-old body – wow, how did you do that?! ;)
Is there a website where more information can be found on the tradition of the sun? I have found a lot on the tradition of the moon (and this was quite clear from the book itself as well), but the sun seems to be much less popular.
There are several names for the Tradition of the Moon and the Sun. I will comment on them later this year
talvez a tradição do sol seja muito mais fácil de ser aplicada… pela grande maioria das pessoas…. mas é muito menos “quista”… a ver pelo número de resposta entre os dois tópicos…. Ter a Magia na rotina parece ser muito “sem graça”… melhor seria viajar entre os mundos….
beijos Paulo, amo vc!
I feel Tradition of the Sun is a more solitude journey. It is when your instincts is stronger than any physical tool, or becoming a student. It is about your energy with nature, the world, universe.
I totally understood – suprisingly and thankfully – the two traditions.. and had never comprehended that the two dynamics of thoughts or, traditions as they appear in this book, were in fact conceptualised as two realms.
After reading Brida, i began thus to see how i had found challenges in my own life – especially identity – since i had never conceived of the two realms as dualities.
I had thought i should be able to be equipped well in verse in both.. thus found annoyance and disillusion at not progressing far in any sort of personal spiritual growth. i needed – from what the two traditions convey – to be fully attentive to one aspect and not try to rule the world/ dominate all aspects of the universe ;o)
Dear Cathy,
The traditions are, in my own experience, two ways we are mostly inclined to when learning. Someone takes Path of The Sun or The Moon, but someone wants to master both. Just like you had experienced, I tried both. Very soon, I realized it is not good to be “Jack-of-all-trades, but master of none”, and almost without notice, like “thief in the night”, I found myself well along The Path of The Sun. This was when and where my development started to bloom…
Goldmund and Cathy,
you guys sound like you are familiar with these traditions. What is this all about? I mean, I know it has to do with some kind of pagan ‘Tradition’ but where did this tradition begin from, who invented it, and what are the Traditions? and what are the differences between those of the sun and those of the moon?
Since Cathy you totally understand the two traditions and Goldmund you have experience in them you guys seem to be the best people to ask! Thanks ya?!
Don’t ask me Hildegarde as I tend to look at things sexually so to me the tradition of the moon as the Magus was in would make him a gigolo, tradition of the moon, women, having a lot of sex, where the tradition of the sun, would be more family oriented. I told you don’t ask me, I have a twisted way of looking at things!
Sounds good to me Hildegarde.
but I still want an answer. I don’t think anyone here really knows the answer. They’re all pretending… otherwise, someone would have spoken up! there’s no such thing anyway, it’s fiction Paulo made up for the story!
hello. sorry – i only just read the new comments.. for some time, people had only written on the Sun tradition page… and so, i let it be. ;o)
So happy to have your response and I should love to answer your question.
Whether it is fiction or not, I still found the idea of two distinct, possible pathways to deeper thought processes an elightening aspect.
It’s been a while since I wrote what I did, so since I am at work, I shall recall some thoughts and write them here .. manana! xx
Pending a little poetry of feeling, as a glance in passing: “I like to think that the moon is there, even if i does not belong ” – Einstein
I also like feel the connections , even in passing …
please do, i need to pick…i’m not sure yet. ilja
Dear Adriana,
thank you for your answer! I am looking for my master…
Love Malin
Hello Marta,
I looked online in St. Paul’s First Epistle to the Corinthians to find the nine spiritual gifts, but I did not find it. Do you know them that possibly you could share with us?
‘ these two ways lead to the same place : the magical knowledge understood as the ability to use certains gifts that NOT every human being is able to develop, which is a contradiction to what I understood in Brida concerning the Tradition of the Sun’
It’s a bit confusing, and I believe it is because a very simple specific definition is being concealed.
The two ways, of the Sun and the Moon, correlates also to, I can’t remember specifics from the book, but the concept of a Builder or a Planter, Sun and Moon. Wouldn’t you agree?
Thank you for your information!
love
C.
That is very interesting about the Tradition of the Serpent, Marta, and thanks for offering that information. I have two tattoos on my body – one on my lower back, of a serpent, the other over my heart, of a red dragon. Of course I researched the symbolism behind each image before I got it, but the impulse toward the choice of these images was purely intuitive. I knew what I wanted before I ever researched the symbolism, because it seemed that these images were branded in my very soul somehow. I felt like they meant something to me on some seep level that I could not quite access consciously. Crazy as it sounds, I almost feel like they are leading me toward something. The feeling is that these symbols mean something that I haven’t learned yet, or perhaps that I have learned (such as in a past life) but have forgotten. So, every time I see a serpent or a red dragon, I look closely, thinking, “Is this the door I am meant to enter?” Because somewhere out there, I have this feeling, there is this “door” (this metaphorical door) I am meant to enter, and I will recognize it by these symbols. So far, I have encountered a lot of serpents and red dragons here and there and everywhere, but never yet has my intuition said, “This is the door you are meant to enter.”
Thank you for the information Marta!
It is very much appreciated!
love
C.
Dear Malin
It was my pleasure! So good to know you’ve already began.
Love Adriana
…and you can be sure that your Master is looking for you.
Dear Carolena,
It is, among other places, to be found in 1 Corinthians,ch 12:
“For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.”
Dear Carolena!
The nine spiritual gifts mentioned in Saint’s Paul First Epistle to the Corinthians are: the word of wisdom, the word of knowledge, faith, healing , the working of miracles, prophesy, the discerning of spirits, speaking in tongues, and the interpretation of tongues.
As to your question I agree with you. I think Fernando Morais didn’t explain the two traditions well, because I think that everyone is able to develop at least one gift be it following the tradition of the moon or the sun.
I also don’t think you mandatory need a master to follow the tradition of the sun. Experience itself can be your teacher, even though if you want to go deeply into it you might need a person who can broaden your own experience with the legacy of our ancestors. This legacy is what I understand as The Tradition mentioned in several Paulo’s books.
By the way, I don’t understand all of the the nine gifts , so maybe I was wrong assuming that only people with a natural tendency toward extrasensorial experiences should follow the tradition of the moon. According to the book, the presence of such a tendency manifests itself in having very small , attached earlobes.
When you’re born with a more highly developed gift this is manifested in your physical traits. Wicca says that even though she didn’t have her gift that highly developed as Brida she was able to develop it taking great pains.
It is also mentioned that both Traditions have been in charge for keeping the Gifts for generations to come througout the time.
So it means the nine gifts are also developed in the tradition of the sun.
What I know for sure is that I don’t feel like performing rituals or becoming a witch ( tradition of the moon), so I think my path ( or my way of learning) is the tradition of the common people, the tradition of the experience ( the tradition of the sun).
Much love to you all.
its in Corinthians 12…I mean the spiritual gifts
Thank you Savita for the information!
So if one possesses these gifts of prophecy, healing, tongues, interpretation of tongues, faith, miracles, discerning of spirits, wisdom and knowledge, one should follow the tradition of the moon. Funny how these are stated in the bible, yet it calls for the tradition of the moon. And so how about the tradition of the Sun? no gifts at all? just ordinary living?
Dear Savita!
How I like your comments , they are so profound! Thank you for them.
I think these two images might be a sign for you to follow.
Well I don’t know anything about dragons, but I can tell you about the meaning of the Serpent and how it is understood in the Catholic religion. I found this in Veronica decides to die. So all my knowledge about this comes from Paulo.
The Virgin ( the female energy) is usually portrayed stepping on the serpent ( meaning wisdom). This means that love, and inspiration are beyond or above wisdom and knowledge.
All of this is related because Paulo said that the tradition of the moon is knowledge plus rituals. That is why , this tradition of the moon is also called of the serpent.
Love
Adriana
Carolena!
I think I was wrong and the nine gifts are developed in the tradition of the sun too. Read my comment above.
Take care
Adriana
Dear Savita,
I have always felt that natural inclination toward the moon and the stars, and elephants too (ever since I was a little girl, now 27). It hasn’t been until recently that I have discovered the essence of these symbols and how they play in my life. I am still trying to figure out the inclination with elephants and how it relates to my inclination toward India. There is something about the music from India that really speaks to my soul. Anyways. Thank you for sharing that. I am so grateful to have another spiritual community to share these thoughts with.
Blessings,
Rosemary
Thanks for the reply Pamela6000,
i figured that out myself sometime ago :) as one can see from my post. But why then in all the books they write about teachers/guides when in ‘real’ life the chance to meet one is close to none. It creates some kind of wrong expectations if i may say so. Why there is no a story where a person becomes what he becomes without the help of a special guide? So after some time i stopped waiting but continued my search on my own as many others did as well.
But even though biased the development under supervision is a bit faster and aimed cos without one can get and gets lots in all that information around. Similar is the Mathematics with no guide one easily gets lost and is difficult to find your way. Of course even in mathematics there are different ways for different people.
I hope i managed to make myself clear.
One last thing. Could you please answer the last question from my previous post?
Regards
Dimitar