And each man kills the thing he loves,
By all let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword.
( quoting Oscar Wilde in The Valkyries)
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And each man kills the thing he loves,
By all let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword.
love itself is a curse laid upon us, it takes away your breath when all you wanted was to share the same air with the one you love, those who do it with a bitter look was holding on to love yet at the same time is dying slowly on the inside, not ready to face the truth hidden from him, the truth that love is filled with sacrifices we need to make, those who do it with a flattering word is trying to stay calm on the outside when everything is falling apart on the inside, when everything else had died except for his pride to end it with a smile, the coward who does it with a kiss, is desperately hoping that his loved one will remember him for what hes worth, for he knows that theres nothing else to cherish but memories when all else fails, and yet the courageous will stab you right on your heart and let you fall apart, he finishis it quickly so then he hopes, without no smile nor kisses you will remember the love that died with you the day he stabbed a sword in your mighty little heart
I have tried so very hard to kill the thing I love,and yet he stays alive,in me and around me.
I have tried a bitter look,he does not seem to care.I have tried a flattering word,he just seemed to turn a deaf ear.I have tried with a kiss,but I am the one lingering for another.I have tried to do it with a sword,but I am the one being slain.
I have received that bitter look,but it made me worried for his well-being.I have heard that flattering word,but it made me yearn for another praise.I have salvaged that kiss,but it made me hunger for more.I have that sword embedded in me,but I just keep plunging it into my heart.
I have tried so very hard to kill the thing I love,yet he stays alive,in me and around me.
… only true for some acts, traits, some parts in a person. Not the whole person. We cannot kill the person as a whole.
… and only good if the beloved person does have acts, or traits in his personality, that deserve to be killed.
In any other case the person killing the one she/he loves does not deserve to be called warrior of the light.
What killed Jesus is what kills the human kind …
Many voices are inside us. It is sadly through suffering that we discover that inner space inside us.
Young, we identify to our body. Then, we discover over the years emotions, feelings, patterns and we suddenly understand that we are the muppets of our psyche. There are so many voices inside us. There is the mother inside us, the father, the patterns of our youth, values of our race, gender, generation, society, religion, family. And don’t forget complexes, doubts, culpabilities, dependances … All those aspects of us speak together. A cacophony. We become used to listen to some of them, and stop listening to others that stay alive and live without our knowing in our subconscious mind.
The intuitive voice must travel through that valley to attain our conscience. The best way for the intuitive voice to capture our attention will be through a desire, a project, a dream, in which our rational mind will have no power. And the battle occurs. Our dream push us towards and our rational tries to stop it. We pass through many emotions, doubt, faith, fear, certainty, negation and then we “ear”. But then again we doubt. Certain will not go further, others will go further.
By realizing that desire, that project, that dream, we are just starting to recognize the intuitive voice. And doubt may occur. A voice says its chance, another that we cannot have a second time that chance. So, our intuitive voice needs to gain our trust. She flows in the project, her voice becomes clearer than the other, she concurs in our project, and each time she stays true our faith grows. Our faith becomes mature. An adult faith know without seeing, believes without knowing, a certainty. That stage attained, the power of faith that served our human nature wants now be at the service of the divine plan, participating at the creation of a path between different levels of conscience.
A stage important for the intuitive voice is the stage of purification (symbolized by Jean Baptist in the Christian story). At that stage, we are now capable of recognizing that voice from all the voices and it is related to our soul and talks about our souls’ needs. Our intuitive voice aims aspects of us to serve our spiritual evolution. Having contributed to assure our basic needs, she contributes now at our personal development and spiritual development. That voice becomes a path, a river, many lessons that comes to us in our conscious conscience. The primal learning, learning without science. Supraconscience flows drop by drop in our river.
We learn to feed spiritually and to heal different aspects of ourselves, principally those that makes us be blind, incapable of walking. We are preparing ourselves to receive the spouse invitation! There is a husband, a wife, a marriage festivity. It is the union. If we desire a complete evolution, our right brain (rational) and our left brain (irrational) must both of them take part of that adventure.
We learn to forgive ourselves. There are many occasions where we are not listening our intuition, and we must forgive ourselves at all times. After another period of spiritual feeding, we experiment at times a transitory transfiguration. A veil is lifted and we learn our past lives, similar to Jesus in presence of Moise and Elie. The energy of our past lives unified permits us to heal past wounds. Our faith grows and grows.
At the beginning, we were part of the Ego world. Now intuition takes over the Ego, the human part of us. The Ego that was observing, spying, wanted to kill that voice. That voice had to hide to survive. From the spied, she became the observer. Now, Ego is almost inexistent. When the intuitive voice is strong, Ego comes back strongly and contributes to the killing (Jesus death), the death of the intuitive voice. After 3 days, intuitive comes back to live as “supraconscience”.
So, from time to time, Ego has power and glory, and then Intuition, until unification happens. We have supramental and supraconscience. Those two most be in an evolutive mode. Because normal rational cannot support the energy of the christic conscience.
men and women, darling. I think is a question of taste, not every man like if a woman scream during sex. Some does because they can see that the woman is losing control because of the sensations given by him…
As a case, I have a powerfull voice. My father akways annoyed by it, if I laugh at movies of jokes, he hates that. But, in school because my my voice, I always been asked to read, for eveybody could hear. So,nothing generall again.
Oscar Wilde has always been known for expressing profoundest thoughts in the simplest possible way.. very crafty. Men often play a dumb when it comes to value a relationship and sustain it with recurring newness
As a curiosity, I was very touched by his story tales. Always I cry if reading ” The Happy Prince”. And not only that.
I think Oscar Wilde was a very sensitive person.
“And each man kills the thing he loves, (…)
The coward does it with a kiss (…)”
When we give something to someone it’s too often because we benefit from that more than the recipient. We simply cater for our needs and hide our needs pretending we do it for the ones we love
We simply give because we want to feel better than we really are – it’s sacrifice – one of the most hated words in the world for me…
we do consume ourselves in love too and if we kill those we love than it happens unknowingly. There comes a time when our desires are fulfilled but we are not ready to let go and want to own those we love. It happens always.
Very true..the question of owning becomes a major obstacle towards a smooth-flowing love. Being possessive does not help..It reminds of one saying..”If you love someone, set him free”
You know the day destroys the night
Night divides the day
Tried to run
Tried to hide
Break on through to the other side
… The Doors.
manana!
:)
Until I did not give myself the right to be truly who I am, to follow my dreams, to experiment and conclude to my self definitions pertaining to God, “my” purpose of living, love, I was killing unconsciously myself, the other and the Universe. Darkness was predominant in me, and so around me. Discovering where the hurt was inside me, the pain, the suffering, getting back my identity, all that struggle, I killed without wanting to kill, and I killed knowing I was killing. In a survival mode, killing myself or the other, no other choice. In a living mode, that option is no more necessary and transforms.
I concentrate on me, being vigilant to construct myself and not destroy myself, and that is a non stop, constant and conscious ability to acquire, develop and maintain. In wanting to love and be loved, to accept and be accepted, to recognize and be recognized, I did many things that hurt myself and others and had impact on my entourage. Now, by knowing the fundamental needs that are within me, by becoming responsible of satisfying them, love grows for myself and so for the others. More tolerance, more acceptance, more awareness of the others’ difference and path, more liberty and more love, more forgiveness, more understanding.
We are so complex, a true wonder of creation, and once we begin the inner voyage it has no end, an eternity to discover oneself and to elevate. I think that each should become responsible to going on that inner journey, to discover and detect its dark side and to put light on it. And to follow our personal path, our personal legend is to be in a constant and conscious relation with our inner self at the present moment, at all moments. We have to reprogram, to empty the old wine and pour the new one.
Many comments on the feminine and masculine in a person. For me, I relate that citation to the Dark and Light presences. Masculine and feminine inside us, I do not think it pertains to love and kill. I think that Dark forces are the killing and destroying forces inside and outside that has to be detected and eliminated, transformed. The weaknesses, defaults, false believes, introjections, judgments, the unconciousness that does not belong to one and that is living, be it personal or collective, the dark energy that surrounds us, that are present in others and the vicinities …
So, to be humble, honest, I still when in pain, in fear, in hurt may react, say, manipulate, “lie”, etc … For me that is killing, not being true, congruent, honest, because at that moment I come back to a survival mode, no more connected to the Light, no more conscious that an experience of life is occurring. At that moment, Ego is the dominant, dark sources are predominant. Jesus said to tend the other cheek, because He knows that human tend to give the same that he received, hurt by hurt, kill by kill. But thank God today I have the honesty to reflect and search and knock to come back to that experiment, the humility to see my fault, to comprehend what happened to me, go back and express. And when others kill me with a kiss, a sword, etc, I have today also the courage to express the hurt, to listen to the other, and to honour and respect my wound by blessing the other and pursuing my path, and take distance, for the time being, from that “killer”. I pray that Light comes on its Dark side, and I trust that one day Light will come also on me to comprehend the true meaning for myself of that experience.
I love what you shared here Johanne!..truly profound..thank you so much…oxoxxo..
lezah
Yes Jojo, nice and profound as lezah says !!
how do we tackle the dark forces / energy that seem to be very much around us and inside us too ?, my expereince – we will need to look those dark forecs in the eye, we will have to face them bravely, and accept their exisatance too. man is not yet man as gibran said, much in him is animal. what i want to add is that no need to look at that animality ( what is animality, sefishness ??) with contempt. face them, be aquainted with them. that acceptance, aquaaintance starts converting them, those -ve energies into a positive force.
that third party perspective from where we see our virtues and vices too, awakens !
love
aditya
Just a question:
Why is it that when a woman is “aggressive” she is being “masculine?”
But when a man is aggressive he is merely seeking rightfully to make his voice heard or assert his will?
Just another question:
Why is it that a woman is labeled “hysterical ” if she makes her voice heard and they give her “prozac” so she “does not make her voice” heard????
Savita,
it’s us who keep on either propagating or complaining about stereotyps which keeps them alive.
e.g. here u say “when a man is aggressive he is merely seeking rightfully” sorry lady that is not we in our family were taught, we were taughet that being aggressive is not good, one needs to be assertive ! whatever one does, even fight or even kill, one cannot be not polite.
Satora,
if someone is behaving hysterically that is shouting, screaming, etec tec, it needs to eb termed as hysterical behaviour; in the guise of being heard one should not become hysterical.
there was an interesting cartoon by that old hat R K laxaman, in india new minsters have taken over tehir offices. cartoon showed the minster sitting in his chair with gloomy face, teh department secretary standing next to his table and shouting at him. the common man who was standing next to the door heard the peon say “he was asked to correct teh new minster whenever requred, but teh chap has taken the liberty of shouting at him” implite behaiour is a no no !! simple.
love
aditya
Sheela ! Hi !
saying a please does not lessen your brutality. that was my initial reaction; now from third party perspective i can see that maybe the entire blame was not yours. when i write, sometimes things get communicated diffrently than the flow of thoughts.
see, i was not saying that the women who do screaming are wrong, my emphesis is on being, the being from which the screams are comming needs to do something about that being.
I can ‘understand’ the doing, the act of screaming. But understanding something does not make it, justifiable or acceptable ! Of course i am not seeing justice from angle of punishment, only from pity, compassion, someone who behaves hysterically, is driven to do so by the ‘environement’ including that person him/herself, i am sure no one wises to be hysterical.
love
aditya
The beauty of meeting one’s Soul Mate…. Yes, that is as it should be – one who makes you feel free to be who you are, to experience and express being a woman, fully and completely.
Thank you, Sheela.
Love,
Savita
Dear Sheela
You would not be human if you did not cling to the one you loved, the one who you recognised from beyond time, in my opinion.
I have spoken to many people who have had this lightening bolt experience. One a very dear close friend of mine felt the experience to be so strong that they didn’t need any physical contact.
She grew spiritually as a result, maybe that is what soulmates do best? We are all different, and I am far from an expert, although have known a soulmate for many years.
Lots of love
Pandora XXX
I only see in tv that the women and girls raped, beaten, killed are far more in number than the contrary. Is a fact. The culture and tradition still wrong. One rarely see or hear about a man beaten , raped think none, killed by women. Maybe as exception. So, maybe, women are milder, more patient.
Hi sheela !
i agree brutality is a strong word, my apologies, i should take that advise from Thelma, count till 100 , by that the obsrever takes over.
but by the way, when we need to use words as swords, should be not drive it right in, cause the hurt intended, as u know and as i too seem to be knowing. just joking or am i ?
love
aditya
is this really so? I can’t think of any examples…
when we cling too much, when we hold too tightly -
when we deem certain actions as “proof of our love”
when really they are merely proof of our fear -
this is the way the coward kills
(just one example)
Each woman loves the man she kills
the freedom snapped,
too many hours of love
and the boundries build.
Horizons move far away, dimmed,
in her heart the profoundest love
isn’t quite enough.
dear peta
i pray that u don’t love me ! ‘each women loves the man she kills”
on a more serious note, women marry men and then change them so much that it is alomost as if she kills him, then she complains also that u have changed !! women !!!!! when even god stopped trying to undretsnad them, us mortals stand no chance ! Paulo did u change after your ‘at last’ marriage !!
love
aditya
I have been reading all the entries and i trully am more enlightened now…
I am about to prepare dinner and tonight i decided to cook steak, then suddenly i remember this quote about “each man killing the thing he loves”…so here we go literally, we kill animals because we love to eat meat..
hmmnn…how cruel of us for inflicting pain on these animals we kill for food?…I watched a documntary about dog farms in Korea and oh how i felt awful that some people eat dogs, suppose to be man’s best friend… then i watched a program about how pigs & chickens are killed for meat..and what about the suffering of the fish and other sea creatures we use for food once we take them out of water?…would they feel pain?…
I am considering to become a vegetarian/fruitarian ;)… i just hope fruits and vegetables don’t feel pain when we pick them and when we pull them up off the ground roots and all during the harvest…have a great weekend you all..oxoxoox…
lezah
what would u do dear lezah if someone told u that they toll feel pain, those plants and herbs that is !
u would be left with what options ! in any case trees like say mango don’t produce the fruity stuff for u, it’s stealing any way !
so dear let’s eat what we must ! not what we lust for !! and leave it at that. what say u ? of course having a grand party once in a while should be included in ‘what we must’ !
love
aditya
Note from a former vegetarian:
I completely understand your concerns, Lezah, and I think you should follow what your heart tells you is right. The very same concerns which you express are what prompted me to become a vegetarian many years ago. I remained a vegetarian for well over a decade. But then one day, I happened to be standing very nearby when a hawk swooped down upon a rabbit. I watched the fur fly, saw the flapping of wings, the talons clenched tight. I heard the rabbit squeal, but I also, in that moment, was overcome by a profound sense of the hawk’s hunger and the essential rightness (or should I say naturalness) of what I was witnessing. It is hard to explain that feeling. I was watching a battle of life and death, and yet the sense of serenity which flooded in upon me in that moment was the same as that which I might have felt in watching the ocean surf pound the rocks of the shoreline, the same as I might have experienced in watching the tumultuous sky blaze white in a thunder storm.
Needless to say, I am no longer a vegetarian, but the one vow that I do uphold is that I will not eat anything that I would not be willing to literally chase down and kill, myself. This means that I wouldn’t eat a dog or a horse, because of course, I could never bring myself to kill either of these. I wouldn’t eat an octopus, an eel or a squid because these creatures terrify me. A shark, never! Nor a lamb. But a deer, a rabbit, a hog, a goose…yes. I always try to ask myself – and this may sound a bit silly, but it is my way – I ask myself, honestly, would I be willing to kill this animal myself, for food? If the answer is “yes,” then I’ll eat it; if the answer is “no,” then I abstain.
Though abuse and imposed suffering are not a natural part of life, pain is. Pain is even a very big part of child birth. If we seek to avoid pain or to eradicate it in every form from our lives, then we are not living fully. In fact, if we look at nature as our example, we are not living in harmony with nature when we seek to avoid all pain. Animals kill other animals for food. They do not lock them in cages beforehand, or torture them, but they do kill.
And please don’t think that I am trying to convince you not to become a vegetarian. If that is your choice – what feels right for you in your heart – I think it is wonderful. I am merely suggesting that there are other viewpoints on the question of pain and killing for food. We humans sometimes like to think that because we have the capacity for consciousness, we are somehow above the other animals and all of nature (more like gods than creatures of the earth), and that we should thus seek to “rise above” our “base animal instinct,” but is “rising above” our nature truly “living in harmony” with nature?
Much Love,
Savita
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