Last week “Quote of the Week” was from Oscar Wilde. All of a sudden, someone said Oscar Wilde was a homosexual, which is true. Then the discussion started to be not about the quote but about Oscar Wilde, sexuality and homosexuality in general. So, this week is about this Taboo : Homosexuality.
I’m looking forward for your opinions, and please remember that your comments will be moderated but not censored.
Thank you!
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WHAT IF – … homosexuality is also a natural aid of mother earth to avoid over-population and consequences with love and theese people would be tragic heroes because of being hated by other human beeings, while telling them ‘sorry , but your baby is just 1 more than this natural environment can bear…’ ?!
( THE END OF THIS UNREASONABLE EXPANSION ‘CROSS THE UNIVERSE IN A VERY SOCIAL WAY )
la homosexualidad ni buena ni mala, para mì normal porque existe estaà entre nosotros a cada paso siempre y cuando se traten con respeto hacia ellos mismos y hacia las otras personal que conformamos el universo, estan existen y esa es la verdad, si nacieron asì si se convirtieron si los indujeron no lo sabemos mas la educacion deberìa enfocarse hacia el respeto que se deben ellos mismos porque hoy por hoy existen muchos que se exhiben y hasta se vendan con tanta tranquilidad arriesgando sus vidas y las de jovenes inocentes que no han tenido tiempo de informarse sobre los peligros que llevan los excesos ojalà y que se haga algo mas por ellos en los diferentes paises para ayudarlos en todo ambito ya que seon marginados por su titulo de homosexuales besos a todos
Sexuality is insignificant when you think about a person’s character or what they’re capable of. What does my being “straight” have to do with anything? People tend to over think things sometimes. Sometimes i see that it matters to so many people that it doesn’t affect directly, that they think someone being homosexual isn’t “normal.”
But really what is normal? Why should we be so limited as to say that “a man and a woman are the only ones that can begin a family because they have the right organs…etc.” Sometimes those organs don’t work properly and they need help…does that mean they aren’t allowed to procreate because their organs were designed to not function properly? That they weren’t meant to start a family because God didn’t intend for them to have children? No. Most couples would look for medical solutions, and many couples would find them, and eventually become the parents they were meant to be…
A gay couple might be able to use the exact same solution said married couple used. Why should we look at them any differently? Why take away from someone else’s happiness what you may take for granted most days, just because they don’t follow what society thinks is “conventional.”
Everyone deserves an equal chance at happiness in this world…why should you judge them for who they choose to share their time/life with?
I honestly did not mean for this to turn into an essay :) Thank you.
VERY WELL SAID!!Love you!
I think the existence of homosexuals proves that God is an artist. Things do not always have to be how they look outside. If the sky is blue, why can’t you paint it pink? We look at this issue at the perspective of moralists. But I think that’s where the limitation of moralists come to surface: they judge things as black or white. Artists see things in a variety of colors. Artists see the beauty in things which the ordinary eyes do not see. And God as being the greatest artist of all, I’m sure He sees the beauty in homosexuals in a way different than any other moralist does. For me, God is not a moralist. He is an artist. Homosexuals are also his works of art, and homosexuals are beautiful because they are created by God, the artist. Why condemn beauty? Have we lost our sense of artistry?
Homosexuality is not the normal thing bec if we describe body organs we would say that a penis is for carrying sperm into a vagina & while at it, both man & woman get an orgasm. With homosexuality a penis is not inserted in another sexual organ but it inserted into the anus of another man or even a woman!! How could that be the norm!? It is like someone wants to eat with his nose!
I am sure homos have reasons for their sexual orientation but that does not make it a normal way of life.
it make sense, but still you wouldn’t understand lgbt issues cause your straight,,that why u cnt accept the norm, cause your not one of them,,
Here is the scientific explanation of homosexuality, since I’m a scientific man: embryo with male XY chromosomes grows in a womb rich in estrogen but not enough testosterone (abnormality?) That embrio, that baby later grows into a man that prefered other men. That doesn’n mean his level of testosterone in his blood is low, it means the low level of testosterone in the womb influenced his sexual preference. Same goes for female homosexuals: female embryo with female XX chromosomes grows in a womb with testosterone rich environment, that baby later turns into a lesbian. The testosterone determined her preference.
Sexuality is an empty concept, it has no real depth; like the preference of vanilla or chocolate, like love for violins or drums; it is a personal feeling, something that is fleeting or fixed, disclosed or hidden. It is practiced or not practiced.
I think what should be questioned, rather than trying to decide whether it is right, wrong, natural or unnatural, is why we choose sexuality as an identity or as something which should be judged in such terms, while the desire for other things in life are no ascribed to identity. Why do we fixate on the subject of sexuality? Why do we argue about it? Why is Sexuality an identity but my choice of green underwear not an identity?
Because all discussions of sexuality must incorporate discussions about the association between sexuality and identity, which come to us primarily in discourses related to religion and modern psychiatric sciences.
We must also not assume that “homosexuality” is an age-old concept. The word itself is a 19th century construction and its meaning, the one which we use today, is derived from 19th and 20th century psychiatric sciences, which until the 1980s in some parts of the world was considered a psychological illness. What the greeks were doing with their bodies, while may look the same from our perspective, had entirely different meanings and associatios. It is anachronistic to use the term homosexual in ancient greece, just as it is incorrect to associate the biblical passages regarding homosexuality in today’s worldview.
What I want to say simply with all of this is that we must locate the reason why sexuality is an identity. Then and only then can we even begin to discuss whether it is right or wrong. In religious terms, yes it is wrong, if you follow the bible, which is not surprising because the bible also condones murder, rape, slavery, and stoning people to death. In psychiatric discourses it is not an illness anymore…. What I mean to say by this is that sexuality can only be understood through discourse. We must therefore analyze the discourse.
That is all. For more information please read: Foucault’s History of Sexuality, Harpin’s How to do the History of Homosexuality, and Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble.
Men are just trapped to a masculine form and women to a feminine form. These are merely facades; it’s not impossible for a man to love another man. He is just trapped into a form but his heart is free to choose a heart that matches his own.
You said it right.
Adam and Eve were there to reproduce, but reproduction is not the only meaning of life. I am grateful that there are homosexuals in the world because they can be very supportive and make wonderful companions. I think it is a particularly male perspective on the world to think that everything boils down to sex. Oscar Wilde himself said that Friendship is a finer thing. All love is good. All suffering can be healed with love.
Sinceramente no he leido mucho sobre homosexualidad, y no me considero una experta en ese tema. Perno este comentario no trata sobre las personas homosexuales, sino de nosotros como sociedad, lo que hacemos y como los tratamos.
Yo siempre me considere una persona tolerante y sin problemas con los homosexuales, pero la verdad en ese enotnces ninguna persona cercana a mi era homosexual. Hoy en dia tengo un amigo homosexual, el ya habia tenido novias y es como cualquier otra persona, no es lo que comunmente nosottos decimos que es homosexual porque es amanerado o cosas asi, mi amigo es como cualquier otro muchacho que nunca pensarias que es homosexual.
pero bueno volviendo a lo que queria decir, antes de tener un amigo asi, era una persona “tolerante”, pero no fue hasta que de verdad conoci a alguien cercano que me di cuenta que estaba en un error, mi posicion antes era de “mientras no se metan conmigo, esta bien” y no pude estar peor, aceptar a una persona homosexual (creo qe desde la palabra “aceptar” estamos mal, porque no deberiamos de aceptarlos, porque eso es como que si fueran algo diferente, como si no fueran personas normales) es tratarla como a cualquier otra persona, al fin y al cabo son gente como nosotros, gente que piensa igual, que pasa por los mismo problemas que los heterosexuales, yo creo que ellos no nos tienen que “aceptar” por ser heterosexuales ¿o si?
Conozco mucha gente y amigos, que dicen no tener problemas con los homosexuales, pero cuando en la escuela tratamos un tema asi o en la calle vemos a personas homosexuales, hacen comentarios y gestos que obviamente me irritan, proque no entiendo pq tratarlos mal, y sobre todo porque esa gente se miente diciendose que son de mente abierta y que no tienen problemas con los homosexuales si sus actos dicen lo contrario, y osea tienen un doble problema (si, ellos son los de el problemas, no lo homosexuales)que es el no ser honestos con ellos mismos y aparte el no aceptar a los hosexuales que son gente normal.
Hay que ponernos a pensar si realmente no teneomos problemas con los hosexuales, si realmente los “acpetamos”, porque aaceptarlos no es ser indiferentes ni hacer como que si no existieran, aceptarlos es quererlos y tratarlos al igual que a cualquier otra persona
i have read quite a lot of articles and most of them say its not an illness and its a thing that happens dues to genes hormones or conditions and some pschologists have their say that there is a therapy(conversion therapy in wikipedia) to change too, through hypnosis. Do you know that there are certain physical traits of a person which we can see and can find out if he is gay and there are certain men i have met they have feminine features and they behave with that, is that their problem to act the way they are. People judgments doesnt have any validity cause they will only say what most orthodox people will say without questioning them, cause that would be a taboo. Its just that nowadays people are getting more aware through media that its not only them, there are quite a lot of people who are into this sexuality difference. So now people know what to do and are coming out of the closet. Its suprising to say that certain other species other than human exhibit cross gender traits. Being different is exciting and difficult but its rewarding. Cause you are perfect & unique by all means.
Dear Paulo,
I am gay, personally I understand it as a blessing, it forces me to be a better person in this life, it forces me to jump over many hurdles ordinary heterosexuals never need to pass.
Being gay is a difficult path; it requires an enormous amount of work to figure out why you are different from so many others. It enables us to look for a new and unprecedented balance in our lives. I call it a ‘higher path’, because it is by far more difficult than conducting an ordinary heterosexual life, which, do not misunderstand me, is already challenging enough. Living the ‘gay identity’ is not fun. We lack the support of family and society. In many cases we are persecuted, even killed. We have to be careful with who we open up. We have to create a new balance, explore unchartered territory.
Yet, the challenge pushes us to higher quality relations, better friendships, in some cases a deeper understanding with our family. It is no accident that many of history’s greatest geniuses and most successful men were gay. In fact being gay is an enormous boost to intelligence and strength. Being gay has nothing to do with weakness, but with opportunity to be better than others, to improve. We are no victims, we are victors!
I’m gay too. For me being gay is not a choice, it is destiny.
I believe,
Love of God is eternal and the ultimate without a slightest doubt.
God has created everything, and in everything he has shown signs of his existence and his love. For every reasoning is a question.
I wondered a long, long, time ago about Why a person can’t control what he feels for a person who is opposite of his sex.
and after having hours and hours of miserable time, when i was about to say “This is not Right, Not fair at all.”
I, in frustration, screamed, “God-dd!!”
and there it was.. the Answer to my Question.
“God”
God is the ultimate love, and so in everything he has created, in every bound, the supremacy of love is bouncing back, beaming out like the steam out of the cooker. It’s nature and nature is where God lies.
Other than that, Love God, See him in your heart.. Speak with him. Fall in love with him. For because Love is only true when Love we do involves God.
The Homosexuality is not the issue, how can love be pure when there is impurity confined in simple definite parts of our lovers.
Without a doubt, we are no angels. But What we are, is what our inside is. The human is soul and soul is light/energy, Which itself is God, Love God. and forget the rest.
Porque é mais facil olhar pro que o outro faz de “errado”do que tenta fazer o certo para voce?é com essa pergunta que te digo,quem é voce que esta dentro de uma igreja e me aponta?quem é voce que vive um INFERNO dentro de casa que me julga?quem é voce que nao ama nem a si proprio pra falar de sentimentos?quer saber,só existe um ser que vai dizer quem esta certo e errado e com certeza nao teremos essa resposta nessa vida!viva com fé,sabedoria,força e respeito seja voce,seja feliz independente de qualquer coisa e sempre de cabeça erguida.o amor é a maior provaçao do caminho certo!
Maybe it is time that people started understanding that homosexuality is not a choice. Living the lifestyle IS. You can hide and pretend for the rest of your life, to keep your family and church happy. Sooner or later you will realise you are not being true to who you really are. It is not a disease, a state of mind, a choice or a perversion. It simply happens. As a gay female, I can testify that living this lifestyle is NOT easy. Being judged by so called Christians is the most common problem. Show me someone who makes a concious decision to live a lifestyle where he / she will be prosecuted on a daily basis, rejected by their family and friends and even dismissed from work because of their sexual orientation, and I will especially go and buy a hat and eat it! Yes, the bible says a lot of things.. it also says that women shouldn’t cut their hair, you are allowed to own slaves (provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations), you cannot plant two different crops on one field or your wife may not wear clothes made of two different kinds of cloth. Heck, if it so pleases you, you may even sell your own daughter into slavery! Do you work on the Sabbath? Oh my, in that case we shall have to put you to death! So ultimately, which laws do we obey, and which ones do we ighore?
Steven Colbert (I believe) said it best when in an interview with a congressman opposing gay marriage (who believed homosexuality is a choice) Colbert responded to him asking, “and when did you decided to be straight?” I don’t think any of us “traditional” straight folks have any memory of waking up one day saying I think I’ll be straight from now on….so why on earth would we think that gay people do?!?! And from a Christian perspective: God granted humanity the freedom of choice so how dare we as humans remove that freedom of choice from any of our fellow beings?? God could smite all homosexuals and force them straight if He wanted, He doesn’t. He shows us the ultimate act of love and gives us freedom so who the hell are we to step in and use his word to back up our hateful actions of trying to pass legislation dictating the lifestyles that are acceptable for people to live!!! We are granting ourselves rights that God himself forfeits.
One day Jesus saw a blind man sitting by the wayside, His disciples asked Him “Master, who did sin?”. He said, “neither this man, nor his parents”, “but that the works of God may be manisfested in him”.
Great and intelligent comment. Thanks. I think it is awful in 2011 to stigmate and decide over people just to see their most privacy think. Their sexual orientation.
Homosexuality is not normal state but is a perversion. There is friendship and there is love. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Peter or Eve and Sarah. God made two sexes male and female, husband and wife to be one. The Old Testament and The New Testament claims that those who practices such things will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. I do not judge but simply agree with the Scripture.
Qwerty, you do judge!
how do you know that for a fact, you ignorant. wouldn’t it be crazy to live our lives in denial in the 21st century because 4000 years old laws? im a girl and i am disgusted of men and feel natural to be with women. do explain that to me but please leave “uu, the devil” out of it
Why always bring your beliefs and the bible into the subject of homosexuality? What do you know what I, as a lesbian, believe? Or if I believe at all? How dare you assume that ALL human beings believe the same you do? That is very presumptious, to say the least.
Scriptures has said a lot. But why r u confined to a single piece. There is a good saying in an vedic scripture “what seems unnatural is also natural”.
Even when a straight man share a hug with a another straight man, it is an act of sex. We are made to love, not to waste time thinking whom to love. I myself is a straight, n i feel happy seeing a homosexual loving each other. I like apple, you like straberry, can you find a logic. Its simply IS… God bless you with love n light.
everyone should be free to make his own choises, but I hate provocations in any form and showing off at loveparade just turns my stomage around, off course also all kind of hetrosexual provocation are unaccaptable!!!!!
Such a deep and thought provoking topic. I too am a Christian and because of that will leave judgement to God. I however, do not judge anyone by their sexual preferences but by their heart. Whilst I do believe it is not good in as much as homosexuals can not recreate, I also do believe that many can not choose how they are due to chemicals and hormones in their bodies being different to that of their sex. I believe God judges the heart and if (as many are) in termoil about their sexuality and they seek God for forgivness or answers they will be heard. At the end of the day they are my brothers and sisters and answerable only to God. ♥
claro, ellos tambien aman con el corazon!
The reason the church condemns homosexuality,along with any sexual behaviour that does not lead to human reproduction, is simple. More reproduction brings more catholics to the world,and makes the church stronger…As well as Judaism condemned it in the Old Testament, for the same reason,it was a young religion and needed to grow in numbers. However, when civilizations have reached maturity that ban on homosexuality has been lifted. That is not to say that we don’t need heterosexuality,without it we wouldn’t exist. But enlightment has always lead to acceptance of love,in whatever shape it came. And love,as a force of cohesion,is a good thing.
what is the problem with homosexuality i can’t understand…y people don’t let other people choose…there is nothing bad in homosexuality…please!! let them live and let us also live in peace and harmony…simple!!!
homosexaulity is the third evolution in sex nature which is now spreading out and dissoluble these people are the driving force that diverse into any aspect of life they are the cause of beautiful movies interesting novels to read fancy dresses majestic landscapes sophisticated houses and the cause of beautiful ladies in every pegaent without these people the world revolved into despair.
I loved girls and I loved boys
and I am a girl
To me, gender is not a problem.
Homosexuality is not a flaw nor an illness or consequence of sexual abuse. We humans must begin to understand that sexuality is fluid and that is natural to choose a partner according to your desires. The idea that homosexuality is wrong comes from biased interpretations of the Bible said by people who strive to indoctrinate and teach others to hate a human being whose natural desires are believed to be deviant. After all, why are homosexuals born from straight parents? Hmmm!
Hey Deeny,
I allow myself to reply to your comment,
well if we keep talking about it like if it was just a flu or something, it’ll spread like a fatal desease, it’s WRONG! it’s not about chosing your partner according to you desire. Can I ask you something?! WHY DO YOU THINK GOD CREATED US MALE AND FEMALE? Homosexuality is not only an illness as you deny it is but also wrong, bad, prohibited…
Everything has a reason, even animals respect rules of nature (male and female not male and male nor female and female).And only God knows WHY!!
Sincerely yours,
A beleiver.
It isnot usual but this time I have no idea.When I read the writing of Welcome back I didnot want to act as if I had not seen it because of my appreciation for Paulo Coelho.May God bless you.
With all my good wishes
I don’t understand why society as a whole in a way rejects the idea, we’re all humans, and we have no right to judge anyone for we have our own flaws. Regardless of the reason, i think it is time for everyone to stop judging and allowing them to live a normal life. The ones who judge are causing gay people to have an abnormal life. It is quite simple, they love one another from the same gender, as long as they are happy and satisfied, and complete, then let it be.
I have a husband who loves me, someone who would give the world up for me, and i would do the same without thinking. I know this might put a smile on some faces, but its the same thing with gays, although the feeling is mutual among all humans, the difference is who is it addressed to. I dont see anything wrong with that.
Leila Gellar ,,,u r right , i like u r comment
I have met with very young Gay’s who are around 13 yrs of Age and tried Counselling them, But in Vain It is the Instinct that they could not change it, so no point of hating them and throwing them away from society. They chose their life also care should be taken that no person is a homosexual as a victim of some deed.
I’m from India and here most of them will be crossdressers and Eunuchs, who demand money by force and do disgusting things if not given(which is the reason most of them where hated and spurned).
Initially I had homophobia but once a fellow showed me that they are as friendly as the opposite way and this time I was not laughing at them and laughing with them, indeed now I don’t have fear over them now.
I understand You, We need to Love harder.
In Portuguese we have a term that I find more appropriate than “homosexuality”… “Homoafetividade” reflects the affection felt between two people of the same sex instead of focusing merely on what is done in the bedroom.
All in all, I think people should be happy, while respecting themselves and respecting others.
I completely agree with you! :)
Sir,
I recently read that people who were abused in their childhood have a tendency to be homosexual later in their life.
Personally,I think as long as you do no harm to people around you and are comfortable with wht you are, then its ok .
But if we need human race to grow then we need heterosexuality.
When you are in a vulnerable position, all sort of things can happen. People can feel your energy and you can be manipulated by anyone.
This does not mean that you are one way inclined or not.Are we going to say that because women go and confide as a rule with other women they are lesbians, that men that talk only with men are homosexuals -it happens in some countries more than in others-
what about the ones that confide in no one are they neutralsexuals?.
So to recap – we have the hetero, the homo the lesbian and the neutral -
I think it is also silly to say that no one has never felt anything towards a member of the same gender.
Homosexuals are as they are, that’s fine. Let them be.
Love to all genders :) XXXX
I agree with Simrat. It’s evident. However, many have also claimed it’s a genetic behaviour as well !
Proud to have started this topic.Still I can see,sadly that some people still speak with hatred months after,this world is not going to change anytime soon.Let people love who they want!And homosexuality is NOT about sex!Pff..some still live in medieval time ^^
Peace
See ya
To me it’s really simple – anything that goes on between consenting adults, without doing harm to anyone else, is entirely up to them. Nobody is perfect so we cannot judge the choices of others. Love is always a good thing xxx
Perhaps an anima posession- in Jung’s language- but over literalised.
pienso como muchos, el amor es libre y la naturaleza tiene sus normas, no creo que nada sea casual. No querria que nadie me dijese a quien debo querer y a quien no, tampoco yo podria decirselo a los demas.
every one lives the way it likes, and no matter what others do, in some countries, is difficult been gay, like in some countries is difficult been a woman, bue a the end life is lived as every one likes and wants, I thank god for making me gay, because I am happy as I am, and in my work it is not an issue been gay, as long as you are a professional person, with etics and responsability, been gay is like been latin, you did not choose, you just are just because,
what ever thing that i canot understand why do people care
about privacy of others, never respect their successful works ?
i think the Taboo is narrow minds canot think wide….
LOVE cannot be WRONG. Gay love is love.
Well said! short and sweet!
Homosexuality has been around longer than religion! In my opinion it’s good.
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