If you are following your dreams, age is not a problem.
If you are following your dreams, age is not a problem.
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Hildegarde
xxx
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Hi Hildegarde,
I agree with you! In England we say “Mutton Dressed as Lamb” !!!
Love, Theresa
Call me a child but dreams produce wonderful ideas that move the world into motion :D
I just have let to belive in dreams. I think that god must be on holliday, or he´s forgot to do his job. you only have to have a view to this world. i only find walls in my way. i thought a i was a worrior but i´m tired to fight. i´ve lost my dreams. i cannot stand
in the years my Dream is becoming reaity….
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WHen we don’t follow our dreams, we AGE………
love and graditude
Annie
Perfect!
I totally agree with you – It is our dreams that keep us young – I find so many young people over here, who have given up on dreaming as a result of bad social circumstances etc. This is really sad.
Dream, dream, dream, dear Annie.
Love,
Theresa
right on Annie <3 xxx
Or sometimes we .. age waiting for our … dreams!! Be careful, Swannie.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Very smart remarque, Annie!
I have noticed, that when we follow our dreams (in mind, living with an open heart), even our bodies will get slower at aging (in physics). It’s probably because we are not stressing our body and giving more positive vibes to ourselves, making our body happy in line with our mind. This is true!
We will shine and be radiant outise when we are lively inside.
But noone can fight nature (in the matter of physical body).
But our mind is a bowl of possibilities.
And our soul will stay here forever – we all leave marks in this world. Even if we do not believe it or if we do not see or know it.
Thanks, Annie.
I truly loved Your comment.
Hugs and a joyous wave,
Liina
Dear Liina thankyou for the reply :D
Today I know is the gig of yours, singing the song :D
I wish you the very best of luck, you will be outstanding, I know! <3
Dear Den Rod, Theresa, Catherine, Mamma Thelma, thank you all :D
Love and Graditude
Anni
Success…what is success?
media portray that success is beating others.. as is sport if you won gold medal you succeed if you failed to collect medal you ‘failed’…. just as the title ‘Winner Stand Alone’ suggest!
I feel that it gives very narrow sense of success. I would like to define success as getting things done correctly ( or may I say satisfactorily)!
If we see success in this way, then as Adeshola Afolabi said if you are following your dream, nothing is a problem!
What if I’m not because I’m depending too much on someone? What will happen to me? He means so much to me but i don’t feel it from him. I’m aching so much now that i don’t know what to do. Can somebody help me please?
I know its so difficult and only u can help your self!!! love yourself and start to wonder what is that really you deserve? if u deserve to have something better than that u have now u ll find the power to go away! its not easy but u can do it!!!! Yourself deserves more than anyone else and especially those who makes us feel pain!!!
Thanks Demmy and Katie, i know i should love myself coz who will if i wont? It’s just so sad and so hard but i know in time i can overcome this. Maybe i just need to divert myself on other things that can make me happy. I just want a happy life in its true sense.
Hi Rio,
I agree with Demmy.
it is important to take ourselves seriously and love ourselves as deeply as we want to love others. because, it is “me” who is my companion through all my life; and it is important to love my companion (myself) very much, because then I will grow and be able to enjoy life and also tackle hard times :o)
it is not worth to give love to somebody who does not respond appropriately. we all – as human beings – are worth much more than such a response that you obtain.
go for your dreams, love yourself, this will give you power. “depending on his ignorance” will just hurt and reduce the positive energy.
Age should not really be the means by which we measure and account for our dreams… surely ;o/
I really hope this is true, at least in the free world
You are free
Our SOUL = Psyche = ΨΥΧΗ = BUTTERFLY is always FREE ..
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
if you are following your dream, nothing is a problem!
What is never imagine, dreamt is never possible.Our mirracles never flla on our laps but wait in the corner and expect us to strectch ourselves, a little bit or maximally, in order to grab it. Success requires persisitency, patience and endurance.If you refuse to let failure define you, then your success is definitely guarantee.
whow.
the dream I am currently working on, even helps me to refuse “my last failure”.
persistency – patience – endurance
yeap: good words to link with a dream :o)
thanks.
It’s wonderful to get to ones dream no matter how late in life. Yes, dreams are renewable. However,its equally important to save the dreams early by rescue it, in time, from the lonely pages of dusty diary to the world of reality where it could be felt,lived and enjoy. Everything depends on the actions that we take today
- dreams catch up with me when I ignore them, they pop up again and
again in different forms & situations
- therefore, age does not matter for me. dreams that are important
for my soul will continue to pop up
- they adjust to age but their core stays the same.
for example,
I like to dance & move. not as easy anymore as in the 20s.
but still possible with another pace, and an “old-age”
interpretation that actually “colors” the presentation in its own
new way.
- sure, with age I start to tackle big dreams that have been around
for some time and I have been afraid of.
but getting older also means:
“what can I lose anyway? :o)
- I recognize that I have a real important dream that I have been
ignoring when I admire people what they do but think they and
their talents are unique & I am incapable of doing it.
- and when I realize this, I tell myself “do it” – not for
perfection but loving the process of doing.
- I then encounter big fear; I call it “facing the red knight” – a
huge challenge to attack & attractive at the same time.
(a figure in the movie “fisher king”)
- this fight can last a long time, but since the dream is
persistent, I finally give up – till now :o)
- each realized dream has brought me beautiful, new experiences
important for my soul & me to feel the joy of life.
- dreams take on their own pace and can lead to “force”
me to tackle another even bigger dream.
- for example. I did a difficult move to a state to work
with a group & I thought to realize one of my dreams.
but I had to find out that I could not fully realize it,
not to the point I expected it since the working environment
turned out to be unsafe.
still, I enjoyed the process of realizing my dream and positive
things that actually happened also during its development. on the
other side, the negative situation forced me to face
a much bigger dream. the fear to face this dream and
work on its realization has been always so big that I needed this
negative environment to finally have the courage to do it.
and at the same time, I see: age brought me sufficient experience
to work on it – and … what can I lose? :o)
so far, the dream develops. not with the fast pace I want.
whether I will reach my “big goal” is not so important now. just
the joy of its current development that also confirms me that it
is becoming REAL is enough for me.
at the same time, I feel stuck with
looking for a job. right now, I have the energy to stay calm and
do the work I need to do to find a new job.
however, this situation – no money/work, but a
“little” growing of my dream – feels unsafe and unbalanced for
me. I am sure that only my age keeps me patient …
but it is scary :o)
i would like to call a term ‘ progressive realization of dream’ and rather than grouping result as success or failure… we may measure the distance … how far we came towards realizing the dream.
:o)
right: the negative interpretation “failure” then just disappears, and one can look through a different “filter” at the progress of realizing a dream.
excellent: the dichotomous characterization “good-bad” disappears.
thanks, Prakash :o)
” Dreams are renewable. No matter what our age or condition, there are still untapped possibilities within us and new beauty waiting to be born.” Dale E. Turner
The DREAM of LOVE does not need to be .. renewed or .. rejuvenated; it belongs to the Realm of Eternity and LIGHT.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Dear Thelma,
Thank you for your inspiring reply to the quote. You are right, Love is Eternal…
Love and Light,
Theresa
What if one follows this principle in life but then gets stuck in the middle because of any reason and could not reach his/her dream??
what if one never tried it?
.
What are you afraid of ? With aging, my fear disapears, what do I have to lose ? Why not just trying, giving it a chance? Go for it !
I guess, Iam afraid, because I dont know it. Life is so diffucult right now…Always fight for the right thing. People dont listen, peolpe live old minds.I cant wait to get older and get wiser :-) I love haveing Birthday :-)
yes!
it reminded me of one quotation
“by the time you realize that your parents were right,
there will be (your) children who will say that you are wrong’ :)
Thats destiny, maybe you on the wrong way, or wrong time, not all the moments are the right one. I just lived such experience, feeling all I did was useless, but at once, all of a sudden, in a short period, things unsolved get solved very soon. And when they start getting solved all followed. Incredible, one must live to believe. I should talk about a miracle…Or it was the reward for my fight…
I believe good always win even if not just on the spot.
Good luck
Love
Alexandra
If you want to fullfill your dream you will meet certain
problems that means whith your talents you have to solve
the problems on your path.Did you read the book The Alchemist?
It is a beaufull story it’s illustrating how it works in reality.
Sometimes we have bad luck and if it does not work, we have to
try it again.
I will say go for it, the battle is not always easy,but the
adventage is how harder the battle,the stronger you are after
the battle
Crossover and make your dreams real. There is nothing to fear.
Amen
Thanks Den Rod.
Poeta, professor e ídolo
Amante da poesia assim como eu
Único no que faz… e como faz!
Ler você é simplesmente viajar sem sair do lugar
Obras e obras publicadas para o nosso deleite
Com todo seu talento, alma, amor e dedicação
Orgulho que tenho de você ser brasileiro como eu
ES e sempre será meu ícone minha inspiração
Ler você para mim é me libertar do mundo rendo
Homenagens a ti hoje e para sempre…
Outro dia pensei quero ser igual a ti quando eu crescer
singela homenagem ao meu idolo
eu tenho 38 anos e estou fazendo um ausbildung na alemanha,os meus colegas de classe sao entre 17 e 20 anos……na und?
Hello Paulo,
Don’t dreams change as you grow older?
-Vik
What do YOU think?
;o)
Love and Graditude
Annie
Do dreams change …
I dreamt of liberty, close the doors on my family to live my life, one that had a sense since I did not find any sense to what was there for me … I was looking to that sense, dreaming to find liberty and creativity … and found myself struggling with drugs, alcool, etc …
Always dreaming of liberty and creativity, to find and accomplish my dream, the reason of my being here, I went back to the vicinity of the family and thought that maybe they were right in what they were proposing … I married, had children, took care of my family, had it all, a house, a car, a husband responsible, kids healthy, nice neighbors … but inside something that was craving … liberty and creativity for to find and accomplish my dream, my personal reason for me for being here … and found myself struggling with depression
After facing death two times, I decided to risk the adventure of going deep inside me, to find what was there in me, the same dream and need to feel liberty and creativity, to accomplish and seek my meaning … my dream … I went along and as a walked that path, I realized that I would find it not in a house, a car, a way of living that for the moment meant nothing to me … I went on the road of initiations and building a solid base in order to find who I was really and the purpose for me of my being here
Today, I am and doing in accordance to what is deeply important for me … liberty and creativity. I have a house, a house, a car, a husband, a family … and also a personal mission, a personal vocation. In realizing my dream, changes occurred all the times, situations came to help me “find” and not define, to guide me, to nourish me deeply. Today, I am here and now, trying to stay opened and in a confident attitude of openness, knowing that in order to stay free and creative, to fulfill the reason of my being here, some things may disappear and others appear, for I know that the only thing I will bring with me is me and the only thing I will leave is an heritage that will nourish the other to realize its dream … one of liberty and creativity …
For me, that dream and existing in order to fulfill that dream gets deeper and richer with age …
My dream … get free of all that stops me (freedom) of being creative and sharing the power of love, the power of life, of being a light to help another find its light and be its light. My dream is to pursue to discover what stops me to be free and creative and love and to fight the good fight.
Actualizing that dream does not prevent me from being surrounded, being there for my family, doing chores, etc … but let’s say I tend now to have less so to have more time to follow my dream, to give importance to what is really important for me …
So, for me, my fundamental dream has never changed …
With affection, Jojo.
What dreams really are…and what dreams may come…Is it really about faulfilling a dream… about becoming lets say a doctor,a lawyer, or a singer or is it really about finding your Ithaka?Is it about the whatever goal or destination we set or about the journey?Or it is about both? Lets say it is about the journey…what you learn and what you go through in your way to achieve your dream…the process itself that gets to have a life on its own…that transforms and manifests itself and us in the way…but then in order to even get yourself in this process, you need to have a destination…to beging with, we need to have both…In the way the destination may get changed, shuttered, we may even forget what it was to begin with…but we are still in our way, in the process of living our dream…we let go of he initial urge that put as there, but we are actually manifesting the dream by living it… by giving life to it…In this case, age is not a problem…it is logical, expected part of the whole thing…that comes to add with maturity and cultivation…Now…if the dream was about the destination itself…then it’s relative whether age makes a difference or not…and if the comquest is within logic…then age has nothing to do with it and the destination may be within reach…It is never too late to go to the university, or buy a house, a boat, or go to your dream vacation, or become a writer…It could be too late though to become an athlete or a first class singer in your 60’s… I think:)
But then, if it is about the journey itself…the longer we wait, the more the destination fades before our eyes…in waiting to long, age can be a problem, because we may not have enough time to take the journey…and thne oddly enough…our destination is never reached…and forever lost…and then…you are left seeing Alexandria that is now lost… “Αποχαιρέτα την την Αλεξάνδρεια που χάνεις”.
Best Regards
Thank you, Black Pearl.
You make some very interesting points and I think we sometimes put obstacles along the path to fulfilling our dreams, often, without realising it!
Jesus said:
“Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death”
It is a matter of faith. We may say as well:
Most assuredly, I say to you, ‘if you are following your dreams, age is not a problem’
AND IT IS ALSO
A MATTER
OF MIRACLE!!!
Thank you, Den Rod. In my … case, many… miracles should take place!!! ;-]
I love you for ‘your FAITH’ and for .. spreading the message of LOVE. The beautiful butterfly is … around.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
It’ll always be, Thelma.
Bye!
Hi Zen !
let me wear that ‘hat’ which will sound unwelcome !
Zesus said this and ZEsus said that ! Ok let’s reeaxamine this fella’s life and his words ! let’s forget that he is god or whatever.
Zesus said ” keep my word and he shall not see death” OK is there anyone else who corraborated what ZEsus said, who all were there who did not have a direct motive ( namely sustannace of tehir own livlihoods) and yet said yes true, i have walked this path and found him true, i have kept the word and i don’t know death anymore !
anyone ! raise your hands, tell us about it.
Sesus said do unto others what u wish others do to you, so Zesus was actually trying to kill all those people who killed him ?
logic is unwelcome here, in matters of faith, but phony faith won’t do, assumed faith won’t do ! one would have to outgrow logic if one is to sustain ……..and then is faith
love
aditya
Aditya..
You are the only one calling Christ ‘this fella’. Makes me laugh. You have kind of cockney English I think! Chap, fella…those English men stayed too long in your country. Hehe.
Heart
he he heart !
and u are the only person who does not consider it blasphemous !! good good, u r religious ! thos english men ! good they stayed as long as they did, just gave this decaying landsacape a unity and a sense of common purpouse. but cann’t give them credit for all of my english, some i learn from american cowboy and stalon ( sylvesyster, Rambo etc ) movies !
love
aditya
ah ah ah I had a good hearty laugh !
Have a nice day !
Love
For me, when I read the word “dream”, I interpret it as “reason of being, the place that belongs to me, my meaning of my life in this life”, and so, for me, age no problem because by identifying for me that reason, that place, that meaning, I can accomplish, realize my dream, respecting my age body and its limits. For me, dream is related to my soul’s desire, and since for me my soul wishes to grow, to be love and give love, to participate to heal the world in his way, age has nothing to do. With affection, Jojo.
so true..
For me, to live is to DREAM and to dream is to LIVE.
Our dreams change according to our age, but whatever our age, we shouldn’t hesitate in following our dreams.
Dare to Dream
Let nothing hold you back from
exploring your wildest fantasies,
wishes and aspirations.
Don’t be afraid to dream big
and to follow your dreams
wherever they may lead you.
Open your eyes to their beauty;
open your mind to their magic;
open your heart to their possibilities.
Dare to dream.
Whether they are in colour
or in black and white,
whether they are big or small,
easily attainable or almost impossible,
look to your dreams,
and make them become reality.
Wishes and hopes are nothing
until you take the first step
towards making them something!
Dare to dream,
Because only by dreaming,
will you ever discover
who you are, what you want,
and what you can do.
Don’t be afraid to take risks,
to become involved,
to make commitment.
Do whatever it takes to make
your dreams come true.
Always believe in miracles,
and always believe in you!
Julie Anne Ford
That is very beautiful dear Theresa, thank you so much for sharing this!
Love and GRaditude
Annie
Thank you, dear Annie for your kind words.
You are young and have your life ahead of you…May all your dreams come true!
Love, Theresa
Thank you dear Theresa.
I think, I am the … Artist of … Dreaming!! I, mostly live in … my dreams!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Mamma , Castaneda has a book , it is called The Art of Dreaming!! He travels into new worlds where he encounters remarkable but dangerous beings. He also conjoins energy bodies with another dreamer and gets an understanding of our multi-layered world.. <3 Maybe a suggestion for your next read..?
love and graditude
Swannie
Dearest Swannie, I took a note about Castaneda’s book ‘The Art of Dreaming’ ; but I hope I will encounter only… lovable, friendly beings in my .. travels.. I will leave the evil, dangerous beings behind, on this material plane..
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Thank you for your kind words, dear Thelma.
A dreamer is the best kind of Artist to be…dream on…It’s nice to be living in your dreams !!!
God bless you,
Love, Theresa
Estimado Paulo
sus escritos estan muy bien pero quisiera preguntar despues de saber su biografia como salio adelante yo tengo 50 años lo he perdido todo gracias a la familia no se como salir,busco no encuentro y estoy sola conmigo misma no tengo aliados,todos los dias me levanto preguntandome que tengo que hacer, nada , de verdad siendo realista como puedo salir ?Tengo delante el articulo Un Dialogo sobre la autocompasionEl 1 punto fue mi fracaso sin saberlo,y el 4 por ai le sirve de algo
gracias
Para mí es más triste no tener sueños que tener edad, aunque aún no sepa qué significa lo de tener edad…. el tiempo es tan relativo. Abrazos :)
Age is a problem if u are not following u’r dreams, then whatever u’r age maybe it’s a waste. and eventually all dreams are a waste but fun is in in dreaming and chasing those dreams like childen chase butterflies !
am i right folks !
love
aditya
nope. you’re not right dearest aditya ;o)
eventually, all dreams are not a waste…
to have dreamed, is to have lived.
As always truth is in the middle…One must dream, but also act. And the balance is always the key. Too much dreaming make us become lazy maybe…I mean if we just live in a phantasy world. I am myself a big dreamer, maybe Romantic, so always I must consider whether my dreams are not some illusions. But after many of them came true, I trust my intuition more than in past,and go my own way, after all, is my life and nobody feel in my place. I just think how wrong are some parents that give up their dream” for their children”, but after they expect that their kids will fulfill the dream in their place. Maybe kids will have different desires.
Much love, embraces
Alexandra
as u have said truth is in the midle and in the middle is nothingness ! stillness !
i don’t think anyone gives up on their dreams “for their children” but yes it can be a good hook to hang the coat of one’s failure to pursue one’s dreams !
love
aditya
hi, i’m new member in ‘paulo coelho’s blog’, i red some of your comments on this quote, i noticed that every one of you admitted this quote, and tried to make us understand his point of view about this great problematic quote.
I have some ideas about “dreams “ and I want to discuss it with you, may be you will refuse it. it doesn’t matter.
“if we were living for ever! shall we have dreams? or dreams are the result of death conscience
do you believe you can reach all your dreams , if you were living for ever?
do you believe we will feel happy one day if death doesn’t exist?”
Hi soufine
what do u feel about this quote, in hini / sanskrit there is a saying that says “it’s dawn whenever u wake up” or let’s treat it as dawn whenever we wake up. so that way age is not an issue really, if one is holding back feeling one is too old to pursue something !
about your three questions ! these are hypothetical questions, and knowing their answers does not help us much, hypothetical questions have hypothetical answers and truth is not hypothetical !
having said this let me see what i can see on this.
1. No idea, but it’s said that we are just ‘dreams’ of that supreme being whatever it is.
2.I see no reason why we cannot recah all our dreams if we live forvere, ultimately we will get tired of this dreams and then be free of all of them.
3. No i don’t think we will be happy if death did not exist. death gives the sense of urgency, the sense of purpouse to life on this physical plane.
feel free to share yourself on this blog, paulo is the most kind hoats who makes his presnece felt by his absence mostly, and their are many others who are kind souls and have all teh time in teh wolrd to live their life menaingfully !
love
aditya
Hi Soufiane, I must say you ask very interesting questions and I’m provoked ;)
Q1: shall we have dreams if we were living forever and whether dreams are the result of death conscience.
I believe having a dream (which I translate into ‘one’s
purpose in life’), shall not be directed by one’s death conscience. Because the key of having a dream is in living it and enjoying the process towards it. Death is always there, waiting for the right moment for us. In the end, it will be our final destination on earth, so when we focus on it, then we may forget to enjoy the blessing of life.
Q2: If we were living forever, can we reach all our dream?
Maybe. :) There’s nothing certain in this world. We may wish, we may dream, we may act, we may pray, we may pursue, but I believe there is a bigger hand on the other end.
Q3: Do I believe I would be happy if death doesn’t exist?
This is the most interesting of all… :)
And I would like to return the question: Do you think the existence of death has affected your ability to be happy? :D
cheers n love,
evi
Dear Aditya…
I totally loved your answear in the second question…if we live forever we’ll ultimately get tiered of these dreams and get free of them…True…:)
Deat Sufiane…
Am also new to the blog and am already intrigued by what is said and offered kindly by people…not to mension all the gifts of wisdom gathered here by the hoast himself… so kindly and generously…
The questions you set for discussion are very thoughtful…I’ll try to see how I understand them myself…
1. We already live for ever and we may be living in a dream right now in terms of what is real and what is not…the difference I think lies in the fact that in the physical plane we are now, dreams have to do with realization of one’s potential, purpose and achievent, whereas in higher planes or in the eternal life, dreams I think take the form of an idea, and the manifestation/creation of this idea…
2. If we were to live for ever, we would have all the time in the world to faulfill our dreams (and get tiered of them…:)Exept maybe there is no time then:) But I don’t thing it will be about achieving anything…(you are already there) but maybe about bringing into manifastation and creading…
3. Death will seize to exist when it stops serving a purpose I would think…in the physical plane is needed due to its finite nature…and because it’s signifies a new beginning…When death stops to exist, that will be equal to eternity…and if that is equal to a sense of containment and a sense of returning to where you were longing to…I guess that could be equal to happiness…
Best Regards
HI evi !
has existance of death affected my ability to be happy ? on the contrary it enhances my ability to be happy, “let’s be happy before we die and we can die any moment ” god does not like sad faces !
keeping an awareness of death with oneself helps one live one’s life more meniangfully !
love
aditya
Hi Aditya,
couldn’t agree with you more…. :)
death shall enhance our ability to be happy… it gives us a starting point to realize how valuable our life is…
(*just recalled the lesson from Veronika Decides to Die… still couldn’t believe a genius like Paulo exists :) )
love,
evi
Yes. Thank you, recently I thought I need to go back to work in the City, it has been nearly six years and my hair is now grey. I had a really good job, and became pregnant and have spent all this time with my daughter.
I thought “I am too old”, “I am unemployable”, all these negative thoughts came over me as if I was going down a dark tunnel, and then your quote appeared, and it is true and for me the timing is quite perfect.
I am not going to try to change to be something that I am not,
Thank you.
The most … precious six years of your life, dearest Pandora!! To raise a baby! Everyday to be amazed with the miracle of beauty, life and … LOVE.
Thelma xxx
Hi pandora !
wish u well in your job hunting ! try to bargainn for flexi timing or better still contrcat based work, u will do this much in this much time sort of.
for all u know, your expereince of raising a child may actually eb very useful in changing economic scenario where after the economic collapse, everyone is looking forward to souls who can nurture business.
Thelma,
raising a baby ! yes those priceless joys and those anxious moments, and those harrowing times too when the bay gets up at 2 Am and wants to play ! no wonder these enlightned beings stayed away from rasiing children or having a family, it would have turned all their enlightnement upsdie down !
love
aditya
I like this quote and I am positive about it.I am following my personal dreams and I don’t care about my age(50+ :)!I believe I have enough time and inner power to complete them.
There can be only one solution to any problem:a change in attitude and in consciousness.So the age is not a problem if you really have a
dream.
Believe,believe and believe !
zzz…lieve
the dream is always there
in our hearts and souls
not matter when, at which age.
It is with age that we can
bring manifest to those dreams.
from the silence into the greater chorus ;o)
is it not our dreams that distinguishes our age
like notches on bark
or as Estes battle scars
;o)
our dreams define us and our lives
how we fought and how we won
x
this…thought makes me feel beautiful…we’re never too young, never too old, we are, and that’s that.
love u all.
take care everyone.
<3
I feel this quote is more difficult for people who have a family. They are the wife or husband and have children. In that picture you have people who depend on you and want you in their life, which may not carry your dream. Still there is probably a way to feel you are accomplishing some of your dreams. I just feel that having support does amazing things. So if you have the support of your partner, husband/wife, children age really does not matter.
Hmmmm, we can speak about a “old” age, but if I’m young then I can hear a dicussions that the young peoples can’t follow the dreams, because they don’t have expirience or they are too “innocent” and don’t have seen life or don’t hear what the grownups say to them. And with the time its seen so weird.
It does not agree me…link the condition of dreams at the age huumm !…I think that important is to have dreams throughout his life. It’s what reinforces mind and allows us to be inventive. To make concrete a dream,it implicates a catch of risk and it’s exactly this catch of risk that makes felt us living…is not it the most important ? :)
So, is old let us…is young let us…continue dreaming…tomorrow will always be nicer :))
Light & Love,
“Πρέπει να βλέπεις εκεί που θέλεις να πας, γιατί αλλιώς θα πας εκεί που κοιτάς”.
‘Υou have to see where you want to go, otherwise you will go where you are looking”.
This little phrase for me is the essence, the age may weakens the vision but never the wish.
So as long someones has a dream, despite his age, he will follow it because he wants to go where he want not where he is looking.
Γεια σου Μαρια,
Ξεκινησα να σου γραφω το παρακάτω, τη Δευτερα το μεσημερι, όταν ακόμα υπήρχε το προηγούμενο θέμα. Μου έπεσαν όμως πολλά και 3 ώρες αργότερα που κατάφερα να το τελειωσω, είχε αλλάξει το θέμα. Οποτε δες το παρακάτω σαν απάντηση σε αυτά που μου ειχες γραψει την τελευταία φορά.
Θα ηθελα να παω κατευθειαν σε αυτό που λες για τα ονειρα. Προσωπικα νομιζω πως δεν υπαρχει μονοπατι ή μπορει παλι να υπαρχει η εννοια της μοιρας με την ευρυτερη εννοια. Και ταυτοχρονα μεσα σε αυτην την μοιρα να εμπεριεχεται και η ελευθερη βουληση.
Το θεμα ανηκει στα (ακομα) μη απαντημενα ερωτηματα και αναρωτιεμαι εάν αυτά είναι για να απαντηθουν ή αν δυναται να απαντηθουν. Ας συνεχισουμε λοιπον τη ζωη μας με αυτά τα δεδομενα που εχουμε και αυτά που αισθανομαστε πως είναι σωστα και δικαια για εμας και για τους αλλους.
Απ’την άλλη παλι, τι μπορουμε να θεωρησουμε σαν “Ιθακη”; Ποιο σημειο της ζωης μας μπορουμε να ονομασουμε σαν πεπρωμενο, αφου παντα ύστερα από αυτό το σημειο θα υπαρχει και η υπολοιπη ζωη μας; Και γιατι κατι να είναι πιο σημαντικο από κατι άλλο, αφου οι επιλογες μας κάθε στιγμη, καθοριζουν το μελλον. Ακομα και όταν φτανουν οι στιγμες που φαινομενικα πηραμε μια μεγαλη αποφαση, παντα πριν την μεγαλη αυτή στιγμη προηγηθηκαν ένα σωρο άλλες επιλογες που μας οδηγησαν στο γεγονος αυτό.
Η μερα του γαμου μας για παραδειγμα, περιλαμβανει ένα σωρο γεγονοτα, όπως το ότι ειχαμε το θαρρος και πηγαμε και μιλησμε στην κοπελα που μας αρεσε. Μετα της προτειναμε το ραντεβου. Μετα ηρθε το πρωτο μας φιλι και η ιστορια είναι τεραστια, μεχρι να καταληξουμε στον γαμο. Για να μην πω, πως για να εχουμε το θαρρος να ζητησουμε κατι από μια αγνωστη κοπελα, πρεπει να ανατρεξουμε σε ένα σωρο άλλες μικρες στιγμες/επιλογες του παρελθοντος, που μας εκαναν αυτό που ειμαστε και, κατά συνεπεια, διαλεξαμε (ή μη) να ξεκινησουμε ενα φλερτ.
Δεν νομιζω πως θα με ελεγε κανεις κανονικο φυσικο. Δεν υπαρχουν παρα πολλοι φυσικοι που πιστευουν στην αστρολογια και μαλιστα εχουν μελετησει γενεθλια ωροσκοπια. Τουλαχιστον, δεν υπαρχουν πολλοι τετοιοι φυσικοι στο φυσικο Αθηνας. Όμως για εμενα η αστρολογια και πολλα αλλα πραγματα είναι απλα…Φυσικη. Το εάν δεν εχουμε ανακαλυψει ακομα τον φυσικο νομο ή εάν μας λειπει η μορφη της ενεργειας που συντελει στο γινει μια εκδηλωση π.χ. τηλεκινησης, είναι κατι διαφορετικο. Το απολυτο “δεν υπαρχει” δεν είναι και πολύ καλη προσεγγιση, όχι μονο για εναν επιστημονα (δεν με θεωρω παντως επιστημονα), αλλα για τον οποιονδηποτε.
Τα συναισθηματα είναι και για εμενα ΠΟΛΥ ΣΗΜΑΝΤΙΚΑ. Αν μπορουσα, θα εκανα ακομα πιο κεφαλαία γραμματα για να τονισω ποσο σημαντικα τα θεωρω. Το βιβλιο που σου προτεινα, μιλαει πολύ για αυτά. Κι εγω νομιζω πως στο 95% των καταστασεων ειτε που μας συμβαινουν, ειτε που εκδηλωνουμε σαν υπαρξεις επηρεαζονται κυριως από αυτά.
Οσον αφορα την αρχη του μηνυματος σου (για την επεξηγηση σου ως προς τον λόγο που με ρωτησες αν θα με πειραζε να μου γραψεις “φιλια”),…
…ειχα δει μια εικονα με ένα ντοπερμαν να γλυφει έναν πυροσβεστη, επειδη λιγες στιγμες πριν την ειχε σωσει από τη φωτια. Και το σχολιο του αποστολεα ηταν, κατά ποσον εμεις δειχνουμε την ευγνωμοσυνη μας γενικως. Μας εχουν φοβισει τοσο πολύ, που τετοιες απλες εκφρασεις είναι απαγορευμενες. Ακομα και τα παιδια μας (κατά καποιον τροπο) δεν “επιτρεπεται” να αγκαλιαζουμε ειδικα εάν ειμαστε αντρες και το παιδι είναι αρσενικο ή εάν το παιδι είναι κοντα στην εφηβεια. Το ξερω πως το εγραψα λιγο υπερβολικα, αλλα φανταζομαι καταλαβαινεις τι εννοω. Τετοιες λοιπον ανοητες ιδεες μας εχουν κανει αν όχι απανθρωπους, τουλαχιστον λιγοτερο ανθρωπους από τα ζωα. Εκφρασου λοιπον, όπως το αισθανεσαι και εάν αισθανθω εγω περιεργα, εναι δικο μου χρεος να στο γραψω. Δεν μπορουμε στο κατω-κατω να ασχολουμαστε και να αγχωνομαστε για όλα, ώστε να μην μας παρεξηγησουν. Αν ο άλλος εχει προβλημα…στομα εχει, ας μιλησει.
Πολλα εγραψα…ε; Ελπίζω μόνο να μην σε κουρασα. Να είσαι και να περνας καλά…
Γειά σου Γιάννη,
ελπίζω να είσαι καλά στην υγεία σου γιατί όπως και οι περισσότεροι άνθρωποι, έτσι και εγώ, αυτή τη περίοδο ταλαιπωρούμαι από ίωση.
Την “Ιθάκη”, τον στόχο, τη μοίρα πες το όπως θες όλα το ίδιο είναι κατά την άποψη μου, πρέπει να τα δεις σαν ένα βουνό, περπατάς, σκαρφαλώνεις, απελπίζεσαι, κρυώνεις, κάποιες φορές λες δεν είναι βουνό, άλλες πως δεν θα τα καταφέρεις ποτέ και άλλες δεν υπάρχει.
Ξαφνικά βλέπεις από ψηλά είσαι ήδη στην κορυφή και τότε κατάλαβες ότι ανέβηκες ένα βουνό. Θα το καταλάβεις όταν θα φτάσεις εκεί κατά τον ίδιο τρόπο που θα νιώσεις ότι μια γυναίκα θα γίνει η σύζυγός σου.
Για να μην μακρυγορώ αυτό που είναι “γραμμένο” (πιστεύω στη μοίρα όχι όμως και στη μοιρολατρία) ό,τι και είναι αυτό θα το ζήσεις και δεν μπορείς να κάνεις αλλιώς, “το πεπρωμένο φυγείν αδύνατον που έλεγαν και οι αρχαίοι ημών πρόγονοι.
Ως προς την ελευθερία της βούλησης άλλες φορές παίζει κάποιο ρόλο, άλλες όχι, δηλαδή υπάρχουν επιλογές αλλά αν δεν έχεις ριζικό άστα έχω την άποψη πως συχνά πιστεύουμε ότι όλα είναι θέμα επιλογών, όλα αρκεί να το θέλουμε μπορούμε να τα καταφέρουμε… και όταν δεν γίνεται λέμε δεν το ήθελε αρκετά, δεν έκανε σωστή επιλογή, αν είχα επιλέξει΄κάτι άλλο….
Δεν αντιλαμβανόμαστε ότι δεν είναι όλα στο χέρι μας (κατά τον αρουραίο στον Αρκά είναι στο πόδι του ισοβίτη…….) υπάρχει και ένας άλλος αστάθμητος παράγοντας, άλλοι το λένε μοίρα, άλλοι Θεό, άλλοι τύχη που όντως είναι αστάθμητος γιατί κανείς δεν μπορεί να τον σταθμίσει και να τον προβλέψει και είναι ανατρεπτικός είτε προς το καλό , είτε προς το αρνητικό.
Το γεγονός ότι ο άνθρωπος δεν μπορεί να ελέγξει τα πάντα τον απασχολούσε ανέκαθεν για αυτό και υπάρχουν τα ζώδια. τα ταρώ και όλα τα συναφή είδη, γιατί κατάλαβε την αξία του παράγοντα και θέλησε με κάποιο τρόπο να τη διαγνώσει, ώστε να μπορεί να την ελέγξει.
Λέγεται ότι πρώτος ο Ναπολέων είχε καταφέρει να ενσωματώσει-υπολογίσει στα στρατηγικά του σχέδια τον αστάθμητο παράγοντα επισήμως δηλαδή, ώστε ανεξάρτητα από την έκβαση της μάχης , να είχε τις λιγότερες το δυνατόν απώλειες.
Συμφωνώ μαζί σου, υπάρχουν ακόμη νόμοι της φυσικής που δεν έχουν ακόμα αποκρυπτογραφηθεί και που ενδεχομένως θα μπορούσαν να εξηγήσουν πολλά φαινόμενα που σήμερα αποκαλούμε “ανεξήγητα” αλλά σε 200 χρόνια από σήμερα αν όχι νωρίτερα όλα αυτά θα είναι τόσο συνηθισμένα που θα φαινόμαστε πρωτόγονοι που πιστεύαμε ότι η π.χ τηλεκίνηση είναι απάτη.
Οι τρείς μάγοι ήταν επιστημονες- αστρονόμοι της εποχής (τότε δεν υπήρχε ο διαχωρισμός μεταξύ αστρονομίας-αστρολογίας),οπότε δεν μου φαίνεται περίεργο που ασχολείσαι με τα ζώδια, για παράδειγμα είμαι σκορπιός σιγά τα λάχανα και? Δεν είμαι καθόλου εκδικητική στη πράξη, λέω,λέω αλλά άκακο αρνί, καλά για το σεξουαλικό δε δεν τολμάω να πώ το ζώδιο μου και οι άνδρες της παρέας λένε το κοινότυπο “καλά ε -και με κοιτούν με νόημα – οι σκορπίνες είναι θεές στο κρεβάτι” καλά πόσο έξω είναι σε αυτό…
Και εγώ ασχολιόμουν αλλά είναι άλλο θέμα για ανάλυση.
Τι να σου πω στη φάση που είμαι τουλάχιστον δεν θέλω ούτε να ξανακούσω για συναίσθημα το δικό μου να εξηγούμαι, λογική χίλιες φορές.
Ελπίζω να βγάλεις ένα νόημα και να περνάς καλά
Φιλιά.
Θα ξεκινουσα την απαντηση μου με τα ζωδια, αλλα ειδα τις φρασεις σου προς το τελος και προβληματιστηκα καπως.
Τι εννοω: για να γραφεις οτι δεν θες να ξανακουσεις για συναισθηματα, φοβαμαι πως ισως να περασες κατι που να σε πειραξε πολυ (αν και ειλικρινα ευχομαι να κανω λαθος).
Η μια λυση ειναι οντως να αποτραβηχτει καποιος απο τα συναισθηματα που τον ταλαιπωρουν. Η αλλη ειναι να τα αντιμετωπισει, με οποιον τροπο αισθανεται σωστο.
Απο εδω και περα, γραφοντας, θα κανω εικασιες και θα μιλαω γενικως, διοτι αφενος δεν θελω να μου γραψεις κατι προσωπικο σου, αφετερου εαν απο αυτα που γραφω, κατι σου κανει κλικ, τοτε πιθανον να ωφεληθουμε, χωρις προσωπικες σου λεπτομερειες. Υπαρχουν 2-3 Ελληνες στο blog, που ομολογουμενως φαινονται πολυ καλα παιδια, αλλα οι εμπειριες σου ειναι “ΣΟΥ” και μονο οταν το αποφασισεις ΕΣΥ, ειναι η ωρα να τις μοιραστεις οντως με καποιον – οχι με εμενα απαραιτητα.
Λοιπον, πιστευω οτι συμβαινει το εξης: αν κλειστει (καποιος) σε ενα φραγμα που δεν θα επιτρεπει να ερχονται απο τα εσω του ασχημα συναισθηματα, τοτε οντως θα μπορει να λειτουργησει ικανοποιητικα μεσα στη μερα του. Αυτο ομως σημαινει πως
- αφου δεν θα αισθανεται τα ασχημα, δεν θα αισθανεται και τα καλα
- θα καταναλωνει ενεργεια ζωτικης σημασιας διαρκως, παρεχοντας την συνεχως στο να κραταει το φραγμα γερο και συμπαγες.
- το φραγμα μπορει να καταρρευσει σε ενα ΠΟΛΥ ασχημο συμβαν
- πιθανον η εσωτερικη ενταση να διοχετευθει σε ενα ζωτικο οργανο και να το βλαψει
(Δεν θελω να σε αγχωσω για κατι – απλα μεταφερω καποια πραγματα που εμαθα πολυ μακρια απο την Ελλαδα)
Μην ξεχνας, πως ειμαστε φτιαγμενοι για αυτοΐαση, αρα το σωμα ψαχνει τροπους να φερει τα συναισθηματα στην επιφανεια, οσο κι αν θελουμε να το αποφυγουμε (μην κοιτας που τα συναισθηματα ειναι αορατα και δεν τα βλεπουμε). Και το κανει για να ξερουμε οτι ακομα υπαρχουν και πως δεν ξεμπερδεψαμε.
Εαν καποιος αποφασισει να αντιμετωπισει τα συναισθηματα του κατα μετωπο, τοτε καλο ειναι να το κανει με καποιον ειδικο. Γιατι, ενταξει για τα συναισθηματα-απωθημενα που δημιουργηθηκαν αργοτερα στη ζωη μας. Τι γινεται ομως με τα συναισθηματα-απωθημενα που δημιουργηθηκαν στην βρεφικη ηλικια-γεννηση; Οταν η “μοναξια” μας ηταν αρκετη απο μονη της, για να μας ισοπεδωσει συναισθηματικα. Σε τετοιες περιπτωσεις (τουλαχιστον απο δικες μου γνωσεις) χρειαζομαστε καποιον εστω απλα να ειναι εκει, ωστε να καταφερουμε να προχωρησουμε το ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΟ βημα παρακατω.
Και τωρα η αστρολογικη αναλυση της ημερας: ενα απο τα μεγαλυτερα λαθη και κατα συνεπεια παρεξηγησεις ειναι οτι οι ανθρωποι απλα λενε τι ζωδιο ειναι και νομιζουν πως τελειωσε.
Αστρολογια σημαινει μελετη του γενεθλιου ωροσκοπιου και των δυνατων και αδυναμων οψεων του τελευταιου. Π.χ. το οτι εισαι Σκορπιος, σημαινει απλα πως την ημερομηνια που γεννηθηκες, η ημιευθεια Γης-Ηλιου εδειχνε τον αστερισμο του Σκορπιου. Με αλλα λογια το Ηλιακο σου ζωδιο ειναι Σκορπιος. Υπαρχουν ομως και 11 αλλα ουρανια σωματα που παιζουν ρολο (Σεληνη, Αρης κλπ) και που κι αυτα κατεληγαν σε καποιο ζωδιο εκεινη την ημερομηνια. Υπαρχει επισης ο ωροσκοπος, ο βορειος και ο νοτιος Σεληνιακος δεσμος, οι γωνιες τριγωνου, τετραγωνου κλπ μεταξυ πλανητων και πιθανον και καποια αλλα που δεν εκατσα ποτε να τα μαθω. Αρα το τι ζωδιο εισαι…μπλα…μπλα…μπλα…αρα εισαι ετσι…μπλα…μπλα…ειναι αξιωματικα λαθος.
Ενα 2ο λαθος ειναι πως η αστρολογια δεν δειχνει μελλον. Μονο την ροπη προς κατι ή καποιο γεγονος. Που σε ευνοει δηλαδη και που σε δυσκολευει. Υπαρχουν (λενε) και καποια φασεις που χρηζουν μεγαλης πρσοχης, αλλα επειδη προσωπικα ποτε δεν μελετησα κατι τετοιο, δεν εχω αποψη επι του θεματος.
Δεν θελω να υπερασπιστω την Αστρολογια. Μ’αρεσει ομως πριν την απορριψει καποιος, να γνωριζει οντως περι τινος προκειται.
Ευχομαι με τη σειρα μου, να βρεις αυτο που ψαχνεις, σε οποιο “μονοπατι” κι αν αυτο κρυβεται. Και μεχρι τοτε, να εχεις βρει και πολλα αλλα, που να σε γεμιζουν και να σε ολοκληρωνουν.
Τα ξαναλεμε με το καλο…
ΥΓ: ωραια σχολιαζουμε το “quote of the week”
Καλημέρα Γιάννη,
μάλλον δεν εκφράστηκα αρκετά καλά και έβγαλες λάθος συμπεράσματα για 1-2 πράγματα και δικαίως, δεν φταίς εσύ.
Με την Αστρολογία έχω ασχοληθεί επισταμένως ξέρω αρκετά πράγματα για να σου πω ότι το γενέθλιο ζώδιο μου σε συνδυασμό ότι είναι το ίδιο και σε άλλους 4 βασικούς πλανήτες είναι όντως κυρίαρχο απλώς δεν μου αρέσει η γνώμη των περισσότέρων για το ζώδιο μου γιατί είναι επιφανειακή και ρηχή ( κάτι ξέρουν και απλά το επαναλαμβάνουν και νομίζουν ότι ξέρουν και τι σημαίνει).
Δεν έγραψα ότι μπορείς να δείς το μέλλον αλλά ότι χρησιμοποιούν τη μέθοδο αυτή για να το προσεγγίσουν με μεγαλύτερη ή μικρότερη επιτυχία.
Επομένως όχι μόνο δεν έχω απορρίψει την Αστρολογία αλλά αντιθέτως την υπερασπίζομαι. Τα παραδείγματα που αναφέρω δείχνουν ότι ο πολύς κόσμος μένει στα τετριμένα και αυτό είναι μόνο που στην ουσία δεν δείχνει και τίποτα.
Ως προς τα συναισθήματα απλά έγραψα ότι προσωπικά επιλέγω τη λογική γιατί με αυτή δεν κάνω λάθη τόσο απλό, ενώ όταν έκανα επιλογή με βάση το συναίσθημα δεν πήγε καθόλου καλά. Δεν σημαίνει ότι είμαι μια άκαρδη και απογυνωμένη από κάθε συναίσθημα γυναίκα αλλά κρίνω σε κάποια ουσιώδη πράγματα με βάση τη λογική πρώτα και δευτερεύοντως με την καρδιά. Δεν κρίνω τους άλλους όυτε λέω ότι αυτή η μέθοδος για τους άλλους είναι λάθος, λέω ποια είναι η δική μου θέση απέναντι σε αυτό το θέμα που είναι το κακό με αυτό?
Δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί μου έγραψες να απευθυνθώ σε ειδικό. Επειδή επιλέγω την λογική από το συναίσθημα με κατατάσσει αυτόματα και σε κάποια ειδική κατηγορία?
Μπορεί να ήταν άστοχο εκ μέρους μου να αναφέρω κάτι προσωπικό αλλά δεν ήθελα σε καμία περίπτωση να σε φέρω σε δύσκολη θεση και σέβομαι απόλυτα την επιθυμία σου να μην μοιραστώ προσωπικά μου θέματα μαζί σου.
Όσο για τους κινδύνους που αναφέρεις ασφαλώς και δεν με τρομάζεις ανέκαθεν τους ήξερα αλλά ο καθένας κάνει τις επιλογές του άλλωστε και το να κάνεις επιλογές με βάση το συναίσθημα και μόνο έχει αυτό συνέπειες.
Φιλιά
Καλως την,
μαλλον καλα εκφραστηκες κι εσυ, οπως κι εγω, αλλα συνεβη αυτο που λενε…Πως δηλαδη ειδαμε το ιδιο θεμα απο διαφορετικες οπτικες γωνιες και κατανοησαμε αλλα.
Ας διορθωσω κι εγω λοιπον καποια σηεια στο δικο μου μηνυμα, γιατι κι εγω διαφορετικα τα εννοουσα.
Καταρχας, το οτι εχεις 5 πλανητες στο ιδιο ζωδιο, οντως πρεπει να σου δινει πολυ εντονα τα χαρακτηριστικα του συγκεκριμενου ζωδιου και φυσικα και ο οικος που φιλοξενει τοσους πλανητες θα πρεπει να παιζει σημαντικοτατο ρολο στη ζωη σου. Μμμμ…ενδιαφερον!! Τωρα, πως το καταλαβαινουν οι αλλοι, αυτο δεν μπορω να το ξερω, αλλα αρκει που εχεις την δικη σου αποψη πανω στο θεμα.
Εγραψα γενικως καποια πραγματα για την αστρολογια, γιατι δεν ηξερα τι απο ολα ξερεις και μεσα σε αυτα ηταν και ενα απο τα βασικα που εμαθα, το οποιο ηταν και η (α)δυνατοτητα της να προβλεπει το μελλον. Καλο ειναι που το γνωριζες αυτο παντως…
Και τωρα στο πιο βασικο: φυσικα και εννοειται πως σε καμια περιπτωση δεν υπονοησα οτι εισαι ακαρδη ή ψυχρη, απλα οπως εγραψα και στο προηγουμενο μνμ μου, με αφορμη το δικο σου μνμ, ειπα γενικα πραγματα που δεν αναφερονταν σε εσενα. Απλα αρπαξα την ευκαιρια που λενε, για περαιτερω σχολια.
Και σε καμια περιπτωση δεν κρινω την αποψη σου και ουτε και καθενος εδω μεσα, γιατι πιστευω πως ο καθενας εχει τον δικο του δρομο και ειναι πολυ δυσκολο να τον καταλαβω προσωπικα. Επισης, δεν ειπα οτι χρειαζεται να πας σε ειδικο. Εννοουσα πως οταν καποιος ανθρωπος ασχοληθει σε βαθος με τα συναισθηματα του, υπαρχουν πολλες πιθανοτητες να συναντησει “σημεια και τερατα” εκει βαθια μεσα του και τοτε ειναι πολυ δυσκολο να τα αντιμετωπισει, χωρις να ξερει τον τροπο ή/και να εχει καποιον κοντα του (και μαλιστα η παρουσια και μονο καποιου, πολλες φορες λειτουργει και χωρις την βοηθεια συγκεκριμενα απο ειδικο).
Μονο ενα σχολιο μπορω να προσθεσω στο προηγουμενο μηνυμα μου. Η λογικη λεει παντα 1+1=2, ενω το συναισθημα δινει ΚΑΙ αλλα αποτελεσματα. Κι επειδη ειμαστε φτιαγμενοι λογικη+συναισθημα, πιστευω πως εαν γενικα πετυχουμε αρμονια αναμεσα τους, ειναι ενα εξαιρετικο βημα για εμας (φυσικα δεν αναφερομαι σε εσενα συγκεκριμενα). Τα συναισθηματα μας κανουν φοβερα πολυπλοκες υπαρξεις, με απιστευτες δυνατοτητες (ή αδυναμιες).
Περιμενω μηνυμα σου, εαν δεν καταλαβες ή δεν εισαι σιγουρη για τα παραπανω που εγραψα.
Να εισαι καλα…
Καλημέρα Γιάννη και καλό μήνα,
συγνώμη για τη καθυστέρηση στηνν απάντηση αλλά μου έτυχαν διάφορα και πιεστικά που δεν επέτρεπαν καμία αναβολή και το πιθανότερο είναι μιας και αύριο είναι Δευτέρα να μην την διαβάσεις αλλά τουλάχιστον προσπάθησα.
Είναι γεγονός ότι λογική και συναίσθημα μπορούν να δώσουν ΚΑΙ άλλα αποτελέσματα αυτά είναι που φοβάμαι, ενώ με τη λογική είσαι τουλάχιστον σίγουρος (προσωπική άποψη.
Το ότι τα συναισθήματα μας κάνουν φοβερά πολύπλοκες υπάρξεις συμφωνώ απόλυτα με τις αδυναμίες έχω ένα ζήτημα.
Δεν μου αρέσουν για μένα προσωπικά, δεν έχω κανένα πρόβλημα με τις αδυναμίες των άλλων. Για μένα αδυναμία είναι π.χ να “ανοίγεις” μια πτυχή σου και ο άλλος να την χρησιμοποιεί εναντίον σου. Ποιός φταίει? Φυσικα εγώ που το επέτρεψα να συμβεί, γιατί είναι μαθηματικά βέβαιο πως όποιος έχει κάποια δύναμη, όποια και αν είναι αυτή, θα τη χρησιμοποιήσει, το πως είναι συνάρτηση πολλών παραγόντων.
Ο Καζαντζάκης έλεγε (συγνώμη που δεν θυμάμαι τα ακριβή λόγια πέρασαν πολλά χρόνια αλλά συνοπτικά είναι τα εξής) “πως αν δεν αγαπήσεις και δεν πληγωθείς δεν ζείς είσαι νεκρός και δεν το ξέρεις, γιατί ακόμα και όταν πονάς και όταν πληγώνεσαι σημαίνει πως είσαι ζωντανός”.
Εγώ έχω να προσθέσω τα εξής ζωή που σε πονάει και πληγώνεσαι δεν είναι ζωή είναι μικρός θάνατος και δεν είμαι και τόσο σίγουρη αν αξίζει και το κόπο δηλαδή.
Αν το να χρησιμοποιώ τη λογική μου εξασφαλίζει σε ικανοποιητικό βαθμό να μην πληγώνομαι, το προτιμώ από το συναίσθημα που μπορεί να έχει ΚΑΙ άλλα αποτελέσματα αλλά χωρίς εγγύηση ότι όλα θα είναι καλά.
Όσο για την αρμονία θα πω το εξής παράδειγμα πες ότι έχω μια ζυγαριά και από τη μία έχω 50 κιλά σίδερο και από την άλλη 50 κιλά βαμβάκι και τα δύο ζυγίζουν το ίδιο και έτσι η ζυγαριά ισορροπεί, αλλά δεν έχουν και τον ίδιο όγκο για αυτό και όταν δείς το σίδερο σου φαίνεται λιγότερο και το βαμβάκι περισσότερο αλλά δεν είναι, ζυγίζουν το ίδιο.
Που σημαίνει η ισορροπία μπορεί να κρατηθεί ακόμα και με διαφορετικούς όγκους υλικών αρκεί να έχουν το ίδιο βάρος. Δεν έχει σημασία τι χρησιμοποιείς περισσότερο αρκεί και το αντίβαρο να είναι του ίδιου βάρους, έστω και αν έχει μικρότερο όγκο.
Συγνώμη αν σε κούρασα με τη φιλοσοφική μου άποψη.
Φιλιά.
Dream is a remote miracle,age is the buffer between them.
It is never too late to dream.Besides, I consider reading and writing as my own personal dream.I can’t imagine this world without it. Age is a supportive factor in writing, because as we get older, we get to know the world better so we can write better. Thus, our dreams may become immortal as Mr Paulo Coelho’s ones.
Dreams are ageless!
So we are, dearest Heart, whenever we …. close our eyes!!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Smiling. Just stop being so realistic. I’m 25 always!
Love,
Heart
xxx
Let’s BE REALISTIC! You are 25 always! <3
Good one Annie. Hey, do they give Pepper shaker to women who pass 30 years unmarried in Greece? It’s such an insult, so most Norwegian women desperately make sure to get married before this age. :))
You do look great, and you so alive and sharp. Only that counts. Hope you sing soon something again. Take care
Love
Alexandra
Alexandra dear,
I’ve done my share blog singing! Never again unless I’m drunk and we can do it in a group. Hehe.
Love you,
Heart
I do not know if they get pepper shaker, we don not have such a custom here…but I intend to go beyond some ‘laws’ and customs and the inadequate norms.. and I don’t know if I want to get married to tell you the truth..
<3
I’m struggling with this question, putting up arguments pro and con. The pursuit of one’s dreams is pure, but we are not timeless. Time hems me in, pursues me, nips at my heels. I can’t ignore it, having trouble regaining my lightness wherein I’d spin and kick time back, laugh as it rolled away wimpering
I can add “Better later than never”, and lets remember Daniel Defoe who wrote great ” Robindon Crusoe” pretty late, he was around sixty I guess…
-= DREAMS KEEP A PERSON YOUNG =-
Namaste,
As long as I’m alive, I shall follow this rule. When I was a kid, I had many diverse dreams which took years to ferment into a unified dream which I am finally living.
Love to you
Thank you Mr Paulo Coelho for this great quote and for share your wisdom have a nice day.
I spoke with Beck y 2.
Age is never a problem. It is just a number.
Our mind and our feelings make the difference…
I feel at any age to realize your dreams u depend on others at one stage or the other.
You always depend on others.. no man is an island..
Love and Graditude
Annie
Because always the present time to you!
Age is not of any importance, but from the point of the threshold when one is able to ponder about life, to question and find answers, to try to find why are we in this world. What are we doing in this world. But also what we should be doing to have a colorful, good quality life. Also it happens when one is able to think philosophically (even children are able to do this – they are not concious about it, neither may their language usage abilities be as good as a grownup’s way of expression (but is that even important), but they ponder and wonder as well. And as Paulo said it wonderfully – when we see that we are not only ones in this world.
On the other hand, if our dream has to do with a physical challenge that our body (because of a disability, special needs or due to old age) we are not able to accomplish, then we can turn to either new dreams and challenges or turn to the mind – make it of use! Or any other possible ways to ‘use Your talent and positive sides, strenghts’. If the dream indeed was a physical challenge set by some limits we would not be able to take by ourselves, because of some reason, yes. It would be one dream unaccomplished. But who’s to say that we only have to have one dream.
If the river flows and its way is blocked by a dam or a big rock, the water flows on, it collects itself, (sets the bar higher) flows either on the other side of the object or over it. But as said in a book/movie ‘Memoirs of a Geisha’,
WATER ALWAYS FINDS A WAY.
This is peak up, tail down, peak down tail up situation, if world is seen as black/white, in a way. But yet, if we see the world as a place full of possibilities, then we will always be able to fullfill our dreams. Maybe not always 100% as we would want them to be, but we can always use our ‘good sides’ to sow more goodness. Find another dream, if one, for some reason, is “taken” from us.
One always finds a way (of love), unless they have a certain reason making them unable to react with the world (like mental illnesses, depression, unbelief… hatred…).
I have no idea if this will make any sense to anyone.
Love,
Liina
Water always finds a way!!!!!!!!
Thank you Liina!
Much Love, Jane : )
Totally agree with that quote
Dreams are dreams with a life on their own…As long as we keep dreaming they are kept alive, with age and time having nothing to do with it…When we stop dreaming however…then dreams die and get shattered by time and age that comes with it…Like the song says…the dreams of lovers never fade…
I cannot avoid to agree however with a previous post… men are indeed favored by time,the maturity that is entailed and wisdom that may come with it…like the good old wine…
Best Regards
hello paulo,
this is Naveli from INDIA.I haven’t read all the book of yours but i did read ‘the alcheimist’,'brida’ and ‘eleven minutes’.and i liked all the three.i always found answer to my questions in your book.Well you can call me a solitary reaper.i do hang out with friends but thats just like to tell myself that i am not alone.But the truth is other way round.well i just forgot to tell u that i am 19yr old doing my engineering graduation in computer science.i shouldn’t right more after all you must be having lots of comments to read.so bye and i hope you will reply me.and yes i do try to follow my dreams.
yours faithfully,
Naveli
Бриллиант-это кусочек угля,которому удалось претворить свои мечты в действительность.
I am 32 years old and just now following my dreams. I went through battlefields with myself and through horrible experiences to finally be free. I am so happy now that I truely live every day. I think some dreams that I have are resurfacing from my childhood. I do beleive that all of us learn and become wiser at different paces. But once we get the wisdom we need we are able to follow our dreams and interpet the experience of following our dreams at a climax. It is never to late.
As I age, I engage, more and more, to my dream…till we become one <3
love and Graditude
Annie
that’s beautiful….<3
Hi annie !
u getting enaged, so nice, congtaulations, till u become one ! yeah ! that is the idea !
love
aditya
Lol. Good one, Aditya. :D
Nunca es tarde para ir tras nuestros sueños,solo tenemos que animarnos,a mirar mas alla del horizonte,y dejar hablar nuestra alma.
Nada es imposible,solo tenemos que intentarlo..
Un abrazo,Clarisa
As long as we are living…
Dear Paulo and all,
Well, who said age is a problem, when age is just maturing of flesh in human soul. With passing time, we become more wise and experienced to all the unknowns, with passing memories, we recollect it later to cherish all along.
Dreams are not shattered by age or religion or anything like that, Dreams are just dreams neither have been destroyed nor created by desire.
God bless you all !
I remember your poetry dear Friend. And hope everything’s love-ly to U.
With love.
Catherine.
Catherine,
Thank you so much…:)
God bless you too…
hi santosh !
yes it should be maturing, but maturing takes effort, some ingerdients. some presevatives, left to itself flesh just rots !! like most of the lives we live.
and dreams, how do u know that u’r dream is what u really really want, what if u wish to change u’r dream midway through, what if as in winner stands alone, u feel this whole dreams and chsing dreams business is a one way street, u can go in but comming out is so much impossible. let’s be careful of our dreams ! sorry for this passimism, but it is becomming as if if u have no dreams, then u are not living, huh !!
love
aditya
LOS SUEÑOS TIENEN FECHA DE VENCIMIENTO ,PUEDES LLEGAR A CUMPLIRLOS POR MAS QUE PASE EL TIEMPO ,PERO NO SERA LO MISMO,SOLO LO CUMPLIRAS ,PERO NO NO SE SI SE DISFRUTARA ,COMO CUANDO LO SOÑABAS INTENSAMENTE.
A idade não pode ser empecilho ou desculpa para nada. Nunca é tarde para voltar atrás para seguir em frente atrás do sonho.
Maybe I’m the oldest and craziest of your warriors. But at the same time very sane, although quite a few people might think I’m a little insane. :-)
All the stories I have told over the last year are true, and I hope and believe that I have paid my dues to Jesus: He helped me when I prayed for his help in the Nidaros Cahtedral, and I promised to make him visible once more. To me he is both a historic person and a symbol. He showed us that we all are God’s sons and daughters – with the potensial for the most incredible abilities. And all of his creation is interconnected through his power or spirit. Different religions might have a different terminology or “language”. Scientists might have a different terminology. But it is all about the same. If I have been able to convey this message, I have fullfilled one of my dreams. I do have two more dreams for myself though…. :-)
He he… Depends from the point of view. My new neighbour is an old lady, over eighty. She said today he is eight…I smiled. I think if she manage so well, I will too. Sometimes we must pay more attention to elder , older people, we have so many things to learn from them. Here they promote everywhere only the young, but I feel is wrong. A kind wise older person can be the right one sometimes. I remember Tina Turner, who had the great success when she was not very young. And she was so great, I loved her songs and style, I still do. And she danced so well.If we think , I guess the quote is right. A dream can be reached at any age . I think I accept challenges,and I have thing in my life that I accomplished in an age considered not the best. But always I did my best, and infact my mates never guessed my real age, nor others. They all thought I am with many years younger.
For me that has bigger value, being able to deal with a company much younger.
Love
Alexandra
yes alex 1
i too feel in these modern times of nuclear families and subatomic will to forgo one’s own petty priorities, the old are getting neglected, left to their own device so to say, it is sinful, as we would soon realise.
old have much experince and wisdom to share ( but then again age has no direct relationship with either ), but for one who is ready to learn, why just old, even the young, even the animals, even the winds, even the fire, evevn the water, even the flowing river, even the tranquil lake, even the dirty pond has something to teach ! it’s a question of being a good student, not necessary the brightest, the most decorated, but good student !
love
aditya
i dont know why i dont really agree with that quote, because if we want to reach our dream, i think we should sacrifice between job and our choice for making a family. thx. :)
No, it is Not and it should Not be!
It is hard to follow ones dreams and if someone does it at ANY age, well that’s something to celebrate!!
I like age… we are so much more experienced as we age, not necessarily smarter but if someone follows their dreams at an older age, they can appreciate more the journey as much as the dream!
Why should age ever matter? I personally feel that children are not given enough respect in general. And the more we live and experience, the more we overcome all the superficialites of outer beauty and age.
To me, experience and wisdom and a closer sense of identity are Sexy! Like Paulo Coelho for example, I bet many women find him sexy and attractive. You still have your mojo Paulo!!
Love and kisses.
so how was u’r dream chase in rome ! just as u dreamt or …
love
aditya
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. I am 36 and have been following my dream since I was 15. It has led me to meet some wonderful people and to be part of some fantastic things. The funny thing is that the older I get in age terms the bigger the dream becomes. I could look back and see what I gave up to follow my dream but any time I start to do this I catch myself and say no, all you have is now and you are the master of your own destiny. A path diverged in a wood into two. One was overgrown and the other was well trodden. Choose to follow the path less travelled.
Shane.
Really I was in need for this quote today, talking to myself what if i didnt achive my dream and I am so old
Age has not stopped me doing anything yet…our dreams lives always.
Well Said Dear Heart… :)
Tnx Santosh, my young man from Himalaya. I noticed you set an age limit to who you date :) Rightly so!
hmmmm,,
what age limit tch tch !!
dreams are not meant to remain as dreams, heart i am just thinking aloud, why should a dream live on, it should be walked, lived and be done with, what next !? the last dream !!!! can we fast forward to that, sklipping the other dreams, have u tried something like this. with a few robert ludlums i used to read the first chapters say about 20-300 pages and then just the last about 15-20 pages, now u see where i am, neither the beginiing is very clear, nor the end, but i have a vague idea. then i used to read rest of the novel, for pleasure !
love
aditya
Dear Aditya,
I think he said something like from 25 to 33 years old..probably a little younger and a little older than himself.
Now you make me think again…yes, we should realize our dream as quickly as we can, as soon as we know it is there, we should start to walk and live our dream. However, sometimes life/Divine, the forces of the universe, keeps that Paradise ahead of you, and it might take the entire life before reaching destiny. And if one reaches destiny early in life, one stick with it, stay in that dream forever? Don’t you think Paulo will keep writing after he is dead, and at least his books will be read forever!
Love and admiration,
Heart
xxx
Yes paulo is a great story teller ! maybe he will also start narrating his stories in one act plays !
that destiny / that dream is not a static state, much activity may follow realisation !
love
aditya
and about me calling Zesus “this fella”. HE is smiling ! i don’t blame our old colonial masters for my english, they taucht us what we could learn and then i found the cowboy english more to my taste and being !
‘… the problem starts, when you decide to follow your dream and your … body does not … obey!!!! ;-]
My father used to say : Old age does not come alone; it comes with … many problems!!!
In metaphor we may say Jesus’ words: Mathews, Chapt. ΚΣΤ’ – 41 [16 -41]
Τό μέν πνεύμα πρόθυμον, η δέν σάρξ ασθενής = The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
So it is important to take advantage and use every .. minute. To see everything as it is the .. first and the ..last time! After all we only have THIS minute.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Hi Thelma !
when did the body obey ? we kept on obeying the body for most of our lives. ion any case if the body does not obey, should we revise the dream, revisit and see if some other shape will fit in. question / importance is not of the dream but of the f’following’ walking ! the process ! the whole thing is illusionary hence the actual dreams are of not much value, it may be this or that, nothing is holier, nothing is better, every dream is same if it galvanises one enough into action. and u know what is bliss – to live and sleep dreamlessly ;-DDD
love
aditya
Dear friend Aditya, the body obeys : when we say … run and we .. run! When the … ‘performance’ can follow the .. ‘image in our mind’.
When I am dreaming of … playing a piece on my piano and my … fingers do not … follow my mind’s orders, it is a ..clash between .. mind and body. Another ‘good’ example of disobedience of the body is a man’s failure of ‘performing’ due to old age… ;-]
So, as you say, we may have to ‘adjust’ our .. dreams! Here is the point I refer to: Our soul is ALWAYS young, being eternal, but our body is our … trap in this ‘material world’, until we learn .. how to Love, the Truth and The WAY.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Dear friend Thelma !
i stand corrected, yes body does obey us i mean that is why the body exists to obey and make us ‘enjoy’ the expereinces ! but look again at a deeper level when we ask teh body to run, we are asking that in line with what body can do for us, in giving our command we are obeying the body’s limitations. but yes everyone has the experince where one can follow the image in one’s mind at least sometimes !
may i say something in a way i would say to a dear freind, u’r attitude towards the body that it being a trap is not liked by me, it may be a trap or whatever but it is also the temple of god, where god, god given consiousness, u reside temporarily. kabir an old sain of mediaval india used to say ” khoob jatan se oodhi chunariya, jas ki tas dhar dini chunariya”, menaing ‘ this body i have worn with all respect/regard/ playfullness, and now when i approach death i return it back to you o lord ! as u had given me, your gift i loved and enjoyed and now i shed it”
i read most of your posts here and there !
love
aditya