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true.. the world needs balance
and lo, came about haters to counter admirers
both devoting time .. one to praise the other to ridicule
both devotees of strong emotions towards one subject :)
Does everyone have or live with a hater(s)..??
I think Elaine said well the essence of hatred. It’s often a projection of one’s own constraints and inabilities.
The other side of the coin is that if you want to achieve something big you inevitably piss some people off. Paolo, an many famous people, may have done that. There is a rich discussion going on the subject at Tim Ferriss’ blog:
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/11/25/the-benefits-of-pissing-people-off/
I couldn’t agree anymore with you Paulo.. the strange thing is you reassure your friends with the above when they’re going through rough time; but when it’s you who’s the target you find yourself loosing your defences sometimes..
It’s hard to see clearly sometimes in the middle of storms..
Dear all,
When I hate someone, it means that at that point I don’t understand his/her painfull actions towards me or others, or maybe I am very angry because of something bad that someone did to me. Before the act of forgiveness there are feelings of anger, that are honest and part of being a human too. Hate for me is a very strong and angry feeling, but sometimes necessary for being able to distance yourself from something painfull, or creating a time-out. Actions as revenge that can come out from hate are not the right answers to hate: hate needs compassion, time, a listning ear, understanding, thought, attention… if you place yourself abough a hater it doesn’t make you a saint. A hater isn’t always jealous, someone who hates can hate for very different reasons,… he can be sick, he can be very angry, he can be confused, … untill the day he understands what he can do about it, to make his hatred go away. Love is not a better feeling than hate, it is one of the many feelings people have during growing, …we need one to know the other.
so with love and hate, ;-)
Ana*
hiiii readers,
I HAVE A PROBLEM WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH ALL OF U HERE…..
if at any point of time…there is a conflict among the right thing or the truth and ur friends and loved ones,then whom should we support…i read somewhere thst happiness is more important than wisdom….in such a case happiness can be earned through supporting our friends but if they are wrong at some point and unfortunately they r not able to understand our point…what should we do…..
i also have many friends…i have my true love also with me but manytimes i believe on people with whole heart but when it comes to some hardships they give it up….
and if i do what i consider ethically right theay call me proudy and arrogant…plz help me…
We should support love more than truth, dear Sumit.
hi Sumit,
Here I do not agree completely with Heart here(sorry Heart). What I feel is that instead of supporting our friends we should make them realize their fault. I don’t think we can see our dear ones heading towards a wrong path and we should try everything to stop them,even if it costs our relationship. But sometimes love is more important than truth…
with love,
Naveli
truth, in all its forms is sacred…never ever run away from truth, it only causes pain, may be not immediately, but for sure in the long run, never have a stained soul, be pure.
truth is sacread but truth is very ’slippery’ also, difficult to say if my truth is the universal truth !! so as heart says love is teh key. even Laotse says “truth without love creates criticism”
specific situations, if cited, specific directions can be looked into, but as sumit u have spoken generally, this is it. u may be mistaken when u say that happiness can be achived by going with freinds who are going gainst ‘truth’, no my friend, if u are going against ‘truth’ alone or with freinds, then happiness will go away from you, in fact it is one of tests of truth, if u are with truth, u are with light and it shows, u may have more difficulties, more problems, even more enemies, but u will be happier going with love and truth ( in that order ).
love
aditya
you are the same name with my dear friend .as I saw this name here ,i almost feel my heart stop beating .I missed him so much and I think I love him although I don’t know who I ‘m loving sometimes .because I can’t understand him at many things .i felt so uncomfortable at him ,many times I even feel hurt as I think of him .many times I have to tell my self :if your love is true love ,you ‘d love this one his own face not you imagine .but how hard it is to face the reality that he is so different from all my ways .I can’t understand him I can’t set him free because if your love is true you’d love his own face ! i am very contradicted .if you cant feel happy in a love ,then the love have the reason to keep ?and if I ‘m not happy in a love ,why I yet want it keeping ?i don’t know .the person include me is so complicated especially the love feelings.
sorry not was replying you but was speaking my own feeling.
Paulo Coelho, além de admirar muito o seu incrivel trabalho, sou fã de uma atriz mexicana que é completamente apaixonada por você! Creio que já tenha ouvido falar na ex-RBD Anahí. Eu como fã, gostaria se possivel de fazer com que ela te conheça em sua proxima visita ao país pois gostaria muito de ser uma das responsaveis por seu sonho se tornar realidade. Sei que é uma pessoa ocupada e pouco disponível porém se houver maneiras de me ajudar aguardarei sua resposta!
Muito obrigado!
O senhor tem minha completa admiração! Um dos maiores orgulhos deste país!
hi readers….i have a problem and i wanted to share it with u all.recently i am feeling very lonely…i am surrounded with friends but its like “water water everywhere but not a drop to drink”.i am single and sometime i feel like i should have a boyfriend like my other friends…but then i am really afraid of getting ditched again.i was into a courtship of 2yrs and then we broke up.i have been single since 4yrs and still i haven’t overcome.sometimes i really hate him…i don’t know how deal with it…plz help me friends.
Dear Naveli,
this is quite not the topic here today but I have been sensitive to your message, having experienced a similar situation which, hopefully, I am overcoming just the last few months. First of all, always remember you are a great person with treasures to share with other people. Remember what they are, things you like and so on, cultivate them and you will meet people to share your true feelings with, fullfiling relationships, and what’s more important, and I think the basis for any healthy relationship, you will feel strong again and at ease with yourself even when alone
Wish you all the best, everything will be ok!!
Caro
hi Caroline,
Thanks for replying to my post.I know its not the topic here for this week but I thought you all can help me out because sometime strangers understands you better than your closed ones as they don’t judge you.I have been waiting for such person as you have described for the last 4yrs.
wish you won’t have to wait that long.
with love,
Naveli
What about your parents, or grand pa’s, or brothers and sisters? Wasn’t there anybody to hug you and tell you how great you are and make you feel beloved when this guy stopped the relationship?
Maybe our friends and beloved ones are not people who can understand us 100% and share our feelings – who can? – but true friends are also those who can hug you and who you can ask for a hug when you need it, even if you don’t feel tuned with them at that very moment.
Not everybody is able to be a good support for us in these situations. Don’t blame them and don’t blame yourself. Little by little, you’ll find “balms” for your soul and you’ll feel better. They can be people, a song, a poem (I really recommend them, Verlaine healed me a lot!!)…
Above all: never lose faith!!! Something has died, something will be born, be patient
Love to you
Hi Naveli,
Spend the time discovering your own dream/interests and stop being all about romantic love relationships. Through yourself into some activities, whatever you like, and stop worrying about being lonely. If your friends bore you, take some time out, and do your own stuff.
Love & admiration,
Heart
hi Heart,
thanks for your helpful words.i do keep myself busy.I work for an N.G.O to spend my free time with children.Days pass but it is the night that doesn’t pass.My loneliness haunts me then.Even reading novels sometime doesn’t help.
with love,
Naveli
Dear Naveli,
I think something must have hurt you a lot, and you are still in pain about something that happened to you in the past. In every experience there are lessons, you can learn. Lessons about your childhood, lessons about your needs, lessons about your innerself, lessons about life,… . Try to find out what it is you need to learn, be gentle to yourself. Sometimes the things in life we need to learn are painfull. It takes time, it takes effort, kindness and strenght, it takes sometimes help from other people. What is it that is so hard for you to learn? How can the experience makes you a stronger person?
with love,
Ana
hi Ana,
You are right I am hurt for what happened to me in past because I was quite serious about him.It is not easy to forget someone whom you thought was your life…all that I have learned is that now I am strong enough to say a no to anyone who proposes to me even if I like that person and at the same time weak enough to make any commitment.Anyways thanks Ana for replying.
with love,
Naveli
A new relationship can be a very scary thing, when the last one ended unexpected,… it will always be a scary thing, there are no garantees in life, and certainley none in love. It happened to me, with my first love. I always took love very seriousley, so for me it was for lifetime,… but we were only 18 then, too soon for lifetime commitments,… he suddenley didn’t want the relationship no longer, even if there were no issues, he wasn’t ready yet, he wanted to experience other relations with other women, before he would settle down,… it came completeley out of the blue,… So I cried many tears, wrote a lot of my bad feelings down, adressed my letters to him, but never sent them,… because I loved him I set him free, he was never mine and for me it made it easier to let go, not to forget, but to let go,… because it was an act out of love, and it made it my last gift to him, nothing was stolen from me, I was happy with the experience of our relationship, for as long as it was, for as long as we both could go,… spend time, and most of your time with people you love most, knowing that you don’t own them, you can only love them,.., from what you write down I understand you keep yourself out of new relationships, because you are not ready yet to take that risk again …but can you live your life like that, withholding yourself any other possibility of a new relationship with someone special? It sounds like you are punishing yourself that way for the hurt you felt,… the hurt noone could protect you from, so you are trying to protect yourself now from that hurt… that’s okey, if that is what you need right now,…you’ll know when you are ready to risk your heart in love again!
Paul Coehlo wrote something great about this: http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2007/09/25/the-wounded-by-love-agreement/
with love, Ana*
Naveli
Hi Ana,
You were just 18 when you fell in love with that guy….I was 15.i fell in love at an age when people don’t even know the meaning. I think your story is quite similar to mine. My boyfriend ditched me for the same reason. Thanks Ana for sharing your story with me. I can relate to you know. Even I let him go and do you know what now he wants to return to my life…but I am not able to forget those 4yrs when he left me all alone. If I could never forget his love then how can I Forget the pain he gave him. Both the feelings were equally strong and had the same intensity I can’t stay with a person who makes me happy and hurts me at the same time. So I refused him.
Now after reading you I think I feel better. Thanks a lot Ana.
With love,
Naveli
I already commented here but a recent experience invites me to comment again:
I’ve seen lately a movie released in France by an old renowned director who I usually like (though never big fan), and I can say I hated it, hated it! With absolutely no trace of admiration!
And I’m no easy hater, rather “good audience” as we say here, I always tend to see the good part in art works or people.
Now, many people (critics) liked the movie and the best part is that I CAN understand what they say, why they loved it. I just don’t share it at all!
The movie made me feel dizzy, it was pure non sense, free delirium of an artist, which will bring nothing to the world.
I’m glad for them if they loved it, “the world needs people of all kind”, and as so, I just considered it a big stincky piece of shit thrown to my face and hated it, with absolutely no trace of admiration!
The good point is that I was with a very good friend, not easily overwhelmed with hatred either, and we had a great evening laughing at that shitty movie, literally spitting the shit out of us.
Really there are haters of all kind, some feel envy and might be considered confused admirers, others just don’t like to be manipulated or treated in a way they don’t feel right deep inside of them, and in that case hatred is very pure and sain I guess.
Namaste,
I think people who hate hate mostly themselves and project that onto others. Hatred usually tells me more about the hater than the hatee.
Love to you
namaste Elaine,
have u ever been to India?
Namaste Naveli,
No, I’m afraid not. Beyond visiting Mexico as a child and again as a young woman, I’ve only existed within the United States.
Love to you
Namaste Elaine,
Then must be knowing an Indian.If not then from where did u got the word ‘namaste’? its a Hindi word.
with love,
Naveli
Namaste Naveli,
I am a student of metaphysics and cultures. I believe we can see God in the Union of Creation. Thus each individual holds an aspect of the Divine. I borrowed the term as it suited my purpose. There is no corresponding greeting in English, so I adopted it. I hope you don’t mind.
Love to you
Namaste Elaine,
i really didn’t mind using it.In fact I was happy to see someone using it to greet people.In India we use it to greet elders by joining our hands.Its our way to show respect….Metaphysics and culture hmmm… must be interesting.
with love,
Naveli
Merci Paolo pour ton aide , tu as un regard qui porte drôlement loin.
ca me plait ce que tu dis Sylvie! ouais, c’est vrai, c’est un regard qui… projete a distance. well said Sylvie
:)
I was thinking at some phrases, often to be heard. For example” I hate you and I love you too”, or “I cant live with you, but I cant live without you too”. So whats that confusion of feelings???
Love
Alexandra
Hi Alexandra, i think that confusion of feelings is not love but it leads us to learn, to evolve, to grow into love when we become capable to see and receive the presents, the gifts within it and also embrace the lessons it offers us. then there is growing and expanding and at the same time returning, coming back to ourselves and to the source.
maybe you like this beautiful song, too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEFP_oHPfRE
greetings, dj
Thank you dj, for your wise words and for the song. Was exactly about my issue… Take care
Love
Alexandra
your welcome, Alexandra, it´s the issue of a lot of ppl. incl.
mine. inspired i thought again..
Peace, dj :-)
confusion of feelings is not love. confusion is not pleasant.
i want clarity. i want to learn, to evolve, to grow into love.
i want to become capable to see and receive the gifts presented
within every situation and also embrace the lessons it offers me.
so there is growing and expanding and at the same time returning,
coming back to myself and to the source. AUM
song for today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4pyJ9Df27E&feature=related
(i don´t understand the words, but it sounds good.)
ahh that is so true I am going to use that …
wow!!!!!!! that’s a beautiful and true expression.
Just to say this is SO TRUE. Bless you all
Olá Sr.Paulo Coelho …..eu gostaria de perguntar ….por que vossa senhoria enrrola e nao fala nda de esoterismo .por que vossa senhoria acredita ser um mago e nunca li nem um tratado de vossa autoria se tiver algum me fale qual? qual é sua raiz filosofica ?em quem vossa senhoria se inspirou ?quem foi seu mestre ou tutor ?eu nao odeio vossa senhoria so nunca vi nda de esoterismo nos livros que vossa senhoria escreve….um abraço frater… me de resposta
Olá Sr.Paulo Coelho …..eu gostaria de perguntar algumas coisas>> por que vossa senhoria enrrola e nao fala nda de esoterismo .por que vossa senhoria acredita ser um mago e nunca li nem um tratado de vossa autoria se tiver algum me fale qual? qual é sua raiz filosofica ?em quem vossa senhoria se inspirou ?quem foi seu mestre ou tutor ?eu nao odeio vossa senhoria so nunca vi nda de esoterismo nos livros que vossa senhoria escreve….um abraço frater… me de resposta
I apologize for not reading all prior comments…
This is comment is so fun! I think the premise is this: why wouldn’t we assume we are likable and admirable and that the people who don’t “get” us just must be confused! love love love it
thanks ;)
Like it Beth. Yes, need to assume who we are! Cordially, Jojo.
A reading from the commentary of St. Gregory of Nyssa on the Song of Songs
A prayer to the Good Shepherd
Where do you pasture your flock, O good shepherd, you who take on your shoulders the whole flock, for the whole of human nature which you take on your shoulders forms one sheep? Show me the place of green pastures and the restful waters, lead me to the grass which nourishes, call me by name, so that I who am your sheep may hear your voice. Give me by your voice eternal life. Speak to me, you whom my soul loves.
This is how I name you, for your name is above every name and cannot be uttered or comprehended by any rational nature. Your name which reveals your goodness is the love my soul has for you. How can I not love you who loved me, even though I was black, so much that you laid down your life for the sheep whose shepherd you are? Greater love than this cannot be conceived, that you should purchase my salvation with your life.
Show me then, she says, where you pasture your flock that I may find the pasture of salvation and be satisfied with heavenly food, that food which a man must eat to enter into eternal life. I shall run to you, the fountain, I shall drink the heavenly drought which you pour forth for those who thirst, pouring water out of your side like a fountain when the veins were opened with the spear. If any man tastes of this he becomes a spring of water welling up to eternal life.
If you feed me with these things you will make me lie down at noon, when, sleeping in peace, I shall rest in light that knows no shade. For everywhere at noon there is no shade when the sun shines over the peak upon which you make to lie down those whom you pasture, when you take your children with you into bed. None is thought worthy of this noonday rest unless he has become the son of light distance from the shadows of the dawn and of nightfall, that is from the beginning and the conclusion of evil, that man is made to lie down to rest at midday by the sun of righteousness.
Show me then, she says, how I must sleep an what is the way to the noontide rest, that I may not lose your good and guiding hand and be brought by ignorance of truth to join the flock of sheep who are strangers to your flock.
This she said when she was anxious about the beauty which she had been given by God, when she wished to learn how her loveliness might remain for ever.
We want love – a love religion, or a love revolution something that spreads the LOVE. We don´t want hate – we have had that for a very long time now. I say let the LOVE win over hate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6tGrdWemRI
Love you all, Tina
Hey Paulo, I read something the other day that I thought was so profound…it said “No one believes the sincere, except the honest.” I think this should be your quote next week. It’s by Khalil Gibran. I think this one quote has enlightened me so much and I’d love to hear what other people feel about it.
about research on hate:
Why do we hate? Academics seek answer in new field –
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/ap_on_re_us/us_fea_lifestyles_hate_studies
K
This is how the novel Shantaram by Gregory David Roberts begins -
“It took me a long time and most of the world to learn what I know about love and fate and the choices we make, but the heart of it came to me in an instant, while I was chained to a wall and being tortured. I realised, somehow, through the screaming of my mind, that even in that shackled, bloody helplessness, I was still free: free to hate the men who were torturing me, or to forgive them. It doesn’t sound like much, I know. But in the flinch and bite of the chain, when it’s all you’ve got, that freedom is an universe of possibility. And the choice you make between hating and forgiving, can become the story of your life.”
Beautiful dear Shiva!! Indeed the choice is OURS. We are FREE.
“Father, Forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing!”
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
That freedom is the greatest gift we, humans, ever had.
Olta ;)
I loved it and join Thelma on the prayer, and would had, “Johanne, forgive them because they do not know what they are doing, love and be light”. Jojo.
“Help us love even those who hate us;
So we can change the world.”
césar e. chávez
(& btw Good Morning
music suggestion for the day:
Yusuf Islam, Wild World,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJe6J1VD0EQ)
Hola hoy solo quiero contar algo,ojala ubiera alguien que pudiera decirme algo,
Les cuento, siento que encontré a la persona de mi vida, tanto así, que su amor, me llevo a sentir la necesidad de no entregar mi cuerpo, mis caricias y mi corazón a nadie mas,su amor inundo mi corazón, el hoy no esta conmigo, pero solo quiero estar con el solo quiero estar en sus brazos y guardar todo mi amor dentro de mi…
Todas las personas creen en el amor pasajero , en la novedad buscar y buscar,hasta encontrar, yo lo encontré, pero quizás no me es correspondido, pero el amor que siento es mas grande,y me di cuenta que encontré a DIOS, conocí a DIOS primera vez en mi vida y no lo había notado,entendí que es estar hay siempre, perdonar, aunque no llego a la misericordia por que soy muy imperfecta,pero como en alguna parte de este blog leí” cuando dos seres se juntan ,cuando dos seres imperfectos se juntan es posible la perfección”…el amor.
ojala…esa persona a la cual yo amo.. entendiera, lo que siento,el verdadero amor que siento… pero a pesar de que no lo entienda,lo amo, mas que a nada en el mundo.
Hola fran!
I read your story and I think it is beautiful the way you are feeling now. I hope that your love will be back. I believe that there exist just one kind of perfect love In earth. When the two people meet each other and feel like they are perfect together. Soulmates. Anyway that doesn’t mean we can’t love other people but them…;)
I really hope that you’ll keep finding God in your Love, it is a Great gift, that what u have.
Love
Olta
i did not get it…so it means haters could be also heros?…humm, maybe, for some…
I’ve hated a few people in the past.. But I don’t think I was a ‘confused admirer’ of them.. I could never admire anyone who lie so much even when they are caught in the act.. I could never admire corrupt people who know nothing but pass their corrupt mentality on to others…
I am aware of some people who hate me.. whether they are ‘confused admirer’ of mine or not, doesn’t bother me at all…
Dear hazel v.
This are two different reasons. In your case you hated because you had a precise reason, but I think that in this quote it is meant about hate without a real reason. The kind that we start feeling very naturally. Hating someone for being so perfect, beautiful, etc.
It is up to us to not hate and forgive, but it is not possible to make other people hating us.
Olta ;)
All is one.
What is this percentage of nasty to nice of the total population any way?! ;o)
We should make some researches to find that out. ;)
But I don’t think it is going to help much.
HATERS TAKE BIRTH WHERE LOVERS DIE.
hello. i totally agree with this quote. some people are just full of negativity that they are blinded by the good of other people. this type of people hate others because they envy the qualities the other possess and that they want to have those same qualities for themselves.
if only we look into the uniqueness of ourselves and invite positivity to enter our lives wouldn’t this be a better place to live?
dats superb
So hatred because of love & jalousie.
Now I m imagining this as an chemical equation.
We got LOVE+(the right conditions for generating JALOUSIE)=HATRED.
Sooo weak!!! Hatred is such a weak “creature”!
If we lose our time on heating others, we risk losing the “admiration” for someone else. Our selves.
2 observations..
I think, probably the equation would be substracting qualities from Love..
LOVE – (some part of this and some part of that) = HATRED..
ok, and
being a little playful now, if we separate a little the HATRED it is not at all a bad thing.. it is a…-> hat_red :D -> A red hat for all those who hate us, because they get blind by our ’sun’..
SO to all my haters, I offer red hats :D
Love and Graditide
Annie
that explains the weird looks i get when wearing my red hat then jeje ;o)
Maybe you should stick a stamp on or smth like that which says :
“I LOVE red hats, I HATE nobody”. Maybe they’ll stop looking at you weirdly.
But now I m seriously wondering : Annie’s idea, has become that famous already? Wow! Or was it the power of gossip? heheheh
LOVE
Olta
Heheheh. After I left that comment I thought that maybe I wasn’t that clear, but you got what I meant. :))
HATRED needs LOVE to exist.
Nice idea the one of red hats. But will that make stop them hating us? :PPP :D
Imagine if it could… That would be a great invention, for all humanity. (It is my imagination who started talking. heheheh)
Love
Olta
We can always try and make the experiment ;o) (maybe a new song ….)
( DO not ever shut up your imagination ;o) )
Love and Graditude
Annie
Me love the song idea ;)
i think its a bit different….
hatred-a few wrong notions=love
try it … i believe this a better way to see things.
Although this quote sounds to be true, I can’t digest it because I’m not a hater!
Love!
C.
We know that. You are always kind.
Thank you Alexandra, and you as well!
kisses!
C.
i’m sorry =
not my kind of favourite quote.
Positivity never is negative ;o) x
For me, Love and hate are the one and same. They always exists together. Whenever u love something, definitely u hate the opposite. Lovers and haters, both are confused admirers. Thats y many love breaks and many past loves unite. Everything is in time and how u see. U cant decide any action as good or bad. Becoz u dont the impact of it in the future, bascially its hard to predict. i say, its a mystery. So u decide the actions as gud and bad by ur small mind for now. But u maynot know the impact of it in future. So u may love it in future. So both are confused :)
YEAH! JEALOUSY PLAYS IT’S ROLE THERE!!
Love conquers all…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwti6ll5fDg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Chris Botti and the gang ‘The Look of Love’.
Listen to the beat, equivalent with a healthy beating heart… and what does it tell us. Listen to words. Let it flow through You…
Love,
Liina
I think there are a lot of people that hate it when someone holds up a mirror to them. I think its just a subtle shift in thinking that is required; from “I haven’t achieved the potential this person has” to “this person is showing me how I can stop letting myself down”. If you don’t make that jump then you get caught in a cycle of envy and jealousy.
With love, Daniel
Do not agree. Yes, hatred is a strong emotion,emotions are bindings, but binding does not mean admiration, if I am chained down I accept the presence of the chain but do not like the feeling.
I would be happy to get rid of my hatred but I definitely do not admire and no I am not confused at all regarding my reason for hatred.
Ipshita, wish you all that you will need to free yourself of that chain. Acceptance does not mean to stay in chain! Cordially, Jojo.
Hi ispita !
being sure is not a good thing always ! they say that only those who are enlightned or who are fools are sure !
when u hate, look more closely at the object of your hatread, u may see facets which may change your hatread into compassion !!!!
love
aditya
How funny! And probably true! :-)
I agree with this quote…They say hatred and love are both strong passions, so I could see that if someone wanted to be like me or you or whoever…then they are experiencing feelings of unhappiness towards how they are and they turn those feelings on us.
love to you Paulo xxx
Dear all,
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Whatever you are doing is not real, whatever you did nobody will care, but what matters most is, love yourself and love those who are far and near.
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Maybe Haters are confused and diffused.
Maybe lovers feel to amuse
Maybe there is no haters and lovers
Maybe love covers
Who cares?
For admirers or for critics
Maybe true Heart never cease
God bless you all !
Ahhh, love your words. Thank you!
Heart
xxx (Thelma kisses from me)
Thank you Santosh Kalwar, for your beautiful words!
Hi Heart!! Kisses from me too! Lately I am in a .. strange mood! I am in my … silent phases! My daughter has … informed me that Saturn is now in Libra, bringing me difficulties! Anyone can … explain that to me?? I am ignorant about Stars and Planets.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Dear BFF,
Try floating with your strange mood and see where it takes you. We’ll pray all your difficulties will be smoothly taken care of, one by one.
Love & admiration,
Heart
xxx
Well, if they will come, then say ‘beware you, old ladies!!! (-the Difficulties)..I will give YOU some difficulties to handle instead!!’ So giving difficulties to difficulties, they get really busy and they will go away ;o)
Love you
Love and Graditude
Swannie
SO dearest Annie, you and me are trying Homeopathy with … difficulties!! Healing with … SIMILAR!!!! Little by little we become … immune to …unhappiness and sadness!! ;-] But I think we may reach … APATHY by that!! We may need a … big KICK to … wake up!!
Dear BFF, Heart, thank you for being there and for your kindness, my sweet Soul!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
NO no, apathy never!! just immunity to what tries to stand on our way and prevent us from moving forward..
Love and Graditude
Swannie
Dear Santosh, I agree with the last part of the first sentence, but for the beginning I have some difficulty. “Whatever I am doing is not real, whatever I did nobody will care.” And if what is done is done out of love and what I did was done out of love, that action of love is not real and nobody will care???? What I do becomes reality the moment I do it and what I did will leave an impact, be it negative or positive and at least one person will “care”, no? Need your lights here. Cordially, Jojo.
Dear Johanne,
“What I do becomes reality the moment I do it and what I did will leave an impact, be it negative or positive and at least one person will “care”, no?”
Well, First I am just little more curious to know- what is the reality? Is the reality living in this world physically in flesh and blood or Is the reality in having the beliefs about higher power (faith, love and hope)
I am trying to understand the “reality” in much higher sense. :)
Let us imagine, Whatever we are perceiving in the reality might not be real. But again, it depends on how we think and define reality.
You said it right, “doing” is an action. An action produces “results”. As you said, “positive or negative”. (This is how the current world works based on the principals of “duality”)
But-
I said the above quotes simply because I defined the “real” in much higher perspective similar to the “faith, love and hope”.
I hope reflects some light… But again,I am ready to convince you if you do not find it satisfactory, I am ready to put more words to make you satisfy.
Thank you :)
and
God bless you !
You are so kind for replying. I have read about that way of “seeing”, of that spiritual courant … I know that spiritually I am not all there, at the top, am in process. No need dear Santosh to “convince” me and I am satisfied for the moment. Will reflect more and am sure that Life will make me experience what I need to experience to bring me where I need to be brought. With affection, Jojo.
Anatta and shunyata! Impermanence and nonsubstatiality. Your words speak to me of delusion Santosh, it’s beautifully writen.
Jojo, I think what you do actually ceases to be reality the moment you do it. Where did it happen? When? Can you take me to this reality? If you believe in Karma then all that remains is the cosmic weight of the intention behind your action, the love, and that is the reality, not the action that happened in a fleeting moment.
With love, Daniel
I know that what I do ceases to be reality the moment I do. And I know that it is part of my reality on Earth for me and not the other. I believe that all that remains is what is behind the action. Now, I understand the word “reality” in that context. The action does not display the “reality”, the “real thing” … Must tell you that I read many works on that philosophy but I must say that many times the way it is written I am not used to … no, that does not correspond to my fashion of expression. I appreciated the time you took to put some light and with your wording I caught a ray. With affection, Jojo.
Dear Daniel,
Thank you so much for your appreciation of the words…
Actually we writers are hungry for that, isn’t it?
Well, I checked your blog and it looks good. Keep up the good work…. :)
Hey, Santosh, you inspired. That was nice, and I think you wrote on the spot.
Thanks
Love
Alexandra
Dear Alexandra,
Thank you too…I see that you are putting the videos and giving your feedbacks….that is truly inspiring…. :)
Keep up the good work….thank you too…
God bless you !
I agree. True hate is usually jealousy under another name
I think what you may be talking about is Jealousy!
A jealous person is basically someone who obviously admires you otherwise they wouldn’t be jealous of you but don’t like the fact that is not they who are being admired and don’t want others to admire you and hate you for that fact!!!
There! I think I have just either cleared it up or confused myself further lol
I’m confused lol
Don’t hate the player – hate the game… LMAO
Hi Kealan
I saw the phrase in a movie about poker championship. But in real life, every day life, what could be the meaning?
Thank you
Love
Alexandra
Hay Alexandra… I think that it means that life is a game and we are all players. Much like the idea from the Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
Antonio:
“I hold the world but as the world, Gratiano,
A stage where every man must play a part,
And mine a sad one.”
Thank you, I knew it was world as a stage, I had read the book, but didnt remembered the quote. Thank you for eplanation and for the awesome quote. You are really well prepared.
Appreciated
Love
Alexandra
Dear Kealan,
Isn’t it that the players define the game (LIFE), and the rules?? I think they do.. THEY define THE GAME… or at least try to..
so I think the inverse :do not hate the game and do not blame it if the players are not good…
Love and Graditude
Annie
Ha ha that is true! Thank you Annie!
Here is a song along the same lines… Are we human or are we dancers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVOoCKjonY
Thank you Kealan ;o)
:D
I like the song.
Dear Annie,
As a “player” in the game (life) …
… “I know that spades are the swords of the soldier, I know that the clubs weapons of war, I know that diamonds mean money for this art…but that is not the shape of my heart..”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELQsnvtB9w4
With loving kindness,
Satora
P.S. Na eisai kala!! Eida mia “pan” ormorfi petalouda simera sto balkoni mou ….
I think it is the reverse: some haters pretend to be admirers! or probably, some (that are not haters) are just surprised by the admiration that one receives, so they try to describe it, or find a cause-and-effect mechanism, just in the same way that a biologist explains the scent of a flower as some chemical and molecular reactions (which is good but just for biology books, but not to describe human enldess feelings!). once one our wise men in Iran said: “the beauty of a flower`s petal is blighted under the knife of microscopist”.
Haters are people whom love was “betrayed”.
sociopaths (ie Ted Bundy) are known to attract many admirers. Or, I guess he is moving into the arena of psychopath- yikes!
I think that some of the people, that have such “ability”, have paid quite a big prize to obtain it.
This subject is huge. Since we express our feelings (whether we like it or not), our soul plays many tricky games!!
“price”…not “prize”
;-)
Haters should slow down and
take their time
Well said! Not that I would know :)
Зависть также как и ревность суть срамные части человеческой души.Ф.Ницше
I don’t agree with this quote in some ways. I have hated a few people in my life. I hated them for their hurtful actions that either hurt me or my loved ones. There is no ‘confused admiration’ in these cases.
There are unfortunately so many other kinds of hates in this world, that is racial , gender , religion etc which also cannot be explained by this quote.These hates are so strong enough to turn people into suicide bombs and kill mindlessly.
This quote may make sense when someone ‘hates’ you for no apparent reason or for any specific action because the have judged you wrong. (I put ‘hate’ in quotes here becasue i don’t think this is hate at all)
I have sensed hostility towards me with some people who after a few conversations have turned friendly. Some of them have come out and said that they had judged me negatively and i’m so differnt from what they expected.These must be the confused admirers.
love,
Laxmi
This quote is a reminder, not to fret over critics.
Love finds love.
Thank You, with appreciation,
And a heart FULL of Love to All, Jane : ) xo
Love to You too, Jane.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
can’t stop my laughter paulo !!
are we being generouus towards our haters or simply declaring them as fools !! surely u don’t include all critics in that category, as Tina has said hate is a strong word. let’s not call our critics as our haters, just unhappy lovers.
while speaking about haters, a wol has no haters, just critcs, and let’s remember what that mediaval saint Kabir said about critics – he said ” nindak niyare rakhiye “”" sparing u hindi in roman script what he said was ” keep your critics near u, they cleanse u of your grime without u having to apply any soap and water”.
but paulo & freinds, to me it appears that why this question is surfacing in my being at this time is of far more importance to me than ‘calssifying’ ‘haters’.
love
aditya
Loved your comment dear Aditya,
We had a politician here in Austria who was hated by many for his embarrassing public statements and actions, but he always kept the ruling party’s on their toes… kept them honest… now he’s gone, discipline has diminished…
Love, Paul
HI Paul !!
Thank u ! every country needs such politicians the devil’s advocates. glad to see that u are well and going strong !!
love
aditya
Nice post Aditya! Interesting. Loved to read that.
I think so too
I will not judge the hater for what he is doing. I would be doing the same, and the act of judging is in my book not to be accepted but recognized as a mean to defend oneself. Someone that shines will be cause of blindness for the other who is in the dark. I am so grateful that I am able to be more detach of the act, or falling into the same pattern as the other, of being able to “see” underneath more and more. As someone that is viewed as a leader, that possess that energy around me, and as the creator and leader of the place of work that I started, collegues fall either in “idolizing” me or “attacking me” … at the beginning I was not able to receive all those compliments, signs of how I was a figure of courage, force, value, etc … for some as I was not able to be witness of attitudes, words that came from a certain person. With time, I understood that her resistance to be part of the group and to recognize my ideas, etc, was talking about her and not intended to hurt me with a conscience. I today am able to see that as how I “talk” to her, “disturb” her, because I am who I am, developing my forces, working on my weakness, being more and more in line with my essence, more and more in the light. Now, today, and that was not there like a year ago, I am able to stay in relation with her, hear her, accept where she stands and no more defend myself, explain, justify, and even lower my energy in order not to disturb her anymore. I have to be who I am. And when I am there, like now as writing, I feel tears when I think of her, how she is not free, in a judgmental mode of thinking for herself that at the exterior reflects in judging the other, rejecting the other. I am able to listen to her, be sensible to her, and still listen to myself and be sensible to myself, and that brings me to do what I have to do, to pursue, letting her free to leave or stay …
Cordially,
Jojo.
I really can´t understand this quote properly. Hatred is a strong word for me and if you hate then you surely can´t admire someone or something?? Or how did you mean, maybe I am the confused one??
Haters? I do not know them as such, are people “lovely” operating guided by fear, as we know if love is “all” has not opposite, but in different ways of looking at it, fear and love are different ways of assessing life, to see the truth of things, may be this is the best easiest wao to Enlightenment…
If I act in or with fear, I feel separate, if I act with love, I feel joined, and I recognize that “all & everybody around me is my mirror” and that “we are all one”, that “hate” same fear that has created the masks of the Ego: hatred, mistrust, guilt and the trial … Paulo thanks for sharing light
Well said!!!
Love & admiration turned upside down.
that was cool !!
u write so many times love and admiration, presently i am visualising them hanging (from a tree ? ) upside down !! yepp teh chaps love and admiration look confused …. :-)))
love
aditya
Playful as always wise Aditya. You turn something negative into something positive in a heartbeat. That I love about you :))
Heart
Haters, hate themselves but confuse it with others…
Yes, and they do not even realize that they are in a hate mode most of the time towards themselves … they make us work on us and thank you! Cordially, Jojo.
True. But they do not understand that they hate themselves…
Possible.
so true
I never thought at such, or maybe yes…But is an interesting opinion, point of view. I think some do know why people like you, but seeing you are out of reach, they start to feel hate. I always say in such occasion that is the reaction of the fox with the grapes, that was saying the grapes are sour, just because they were too high above the fox…
i think people who hate…need to be loved, and with the magic n might of love they will heal.
n yeah, i know about the grapes are sour thing…i know…haha…
anyways, i missed u Alexandra, just wanted u to know that, tc…god bless.<3
lots of love,
*hugs n kisses*
by the way, i love your name, Alexandra, beautiful.
How sweet of you! Thank you so much.
Miss you too.
Hope you are enjoying life.
Have a nice time.
All the best
Hugs
Alexandra
*smiles*
I have plenty…
I do not have …. any!!!! I am not a … STAR!!!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
You are a shining star in this blog dear Thelma… yet still you have no haters :-) Love, Paul x
You are always there, dear Paul, to write a good word and make our heart beat … faster!!;-]
The shining star is our ..Paulo Coelho, here in the Blog. I thank you and .. admire you both and I .. love you. ;-]
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
dup……… dup…………. dup -> dup.. dup.. dup ..dup-> dupdupdupdupdup (heart beating faster :D)
Love you both
Annie
Of both? :-)
Jojo
I thought you have lots of friends…
I use that word very carefully dear Alexandra… My definition of a real friend is…
“It is he or she whom I can implicitly trust… on the battle field of life…”
Love, Paul
I like this quote Paul,is it an orignal ( not that it matters!!!)
Love
Breda :)
Dear Paul,
I am not taking either easily the word friend. Is just I saw you are a straight honest kind man. Thats all.
Love
Alexandra
Yes dear Breda… and if you hadn’t noticed, I am a man of few words, and always try to be succinct and accurate… Love, Paul x
Thank you dear Alexandra… what you see is… but I have my dark side too… and it’s always striving for the light… Love, Paul x
It makes me think about the alst week quote: stop “pleasing others” and start being yourself:
I’ve met a true hater in my life, and somehow, I think he hates people who are loved by many others because he thinks they are untrue, that people true to themselves can only be hated by others! Crazy!
But deeply these people are indeed “confused admirers”, because it unconcious, they also would like to be loved but they forgot it, yet they still know it inconciously.
Then there are all kind of people in the world, and haters are usually passionate, reactive and radical people, who can hate you one day and die for you the next day if you’ve touched their heart!
I totally agree with what you wrote at the end dear Caroline. A hater, can become a lover the second after, then an admirer. We are not fixed in a state of mind. Even if we try the best to spread love, or make ourself believe we are perfect, or close to become… We all have hate inside of us, and I guess it is about our work to transmute it. Or we won’t be there, but all lovers in paradise.
Yours,
Catherine.
Possible.
But I do not understand the concept of hate. Hate in fact is quite blind way of acting at (most) times. Why to sent out feelings of hatred to someone who You (if admitting the truth) often do not understand. This I mean towards maybe famous people, or people in media, or critiques as a profession etc.
We also send hate towards to people who have commited a crime. In this way the hate is hidden – we wish for justice/payback. We act out of hidden hatred. Feeling “glad” and relieved if they have got their revenge when caught and punished.
I understand (the reasons) behind this way of acting, but I wish we wasn’t so full of hatred. It is a dead circle, and after misjudgement or after jealousy or the need to feel supreme (in our opinions) it will not do us any good to be in this circle, and if we don’t try to break out of it, it will eat out all the good from us.
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‘Haters are confused admirers who can’t understand why everybody else likes you.’ This quote offers that the hater is jealous of all the attention this person is getting who we are hating. A lot of media uses this when creating stories, also every day people in everyday life. Wether they are famous or not. Wether they are talking about a famous person or not.
While this is correct, it yet gives me a feeling of selfadmiration.
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I think it’s the same thing with believers and atheists. I think atheists are funny – they put all this energy to deny of the being of ‘nothing’, as they claim.
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The sad thing is, we often judge others acting this way, even though we ourselves act this way also. If we do not start from ourselves (M.Jackson ‘Man in the Mirror’), nothing ever will change.
If more people understood that hatred is a neverending circle and trying to break out of it, living without it would change our lives termendeously to a better, healthier way. Without using our energy to “useless” matters.
Love,
Liina
I do think you right, and when I feel bit jealousy, I try to change, because I can find a great friend in an better person than me. So why feeling hate? We must struggle a bit to see all, not only one side. Sometimes we feel jealousy towards people we think they have a great easy life, but behing the glitter there must be a heave background, dramas we dont know.
Much Love
Alexandra