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C’est magnifique! Merci Hildegarde.
What´s love? The question is an intellectual question, but the answer lies in the world of feelings. Love means different things to different people….
Love,,
Such as the graves of my heart was not inhabited by only one…
(a lie)
Just think about it,,,
and be the hero of your life story,,,
REGARDS
DIAA ASHA
have fun and live M.U.S.L.I.M
I can’t agree with this any more!
And to add something extra:
“Were it not for love, the world would perish. ” – Rumi
Love is what makes the world go round, whether we like to admit it or not ;)
In true love, I loved with my heart.
In a false one, with my brain…..
The false one destroyed my brain, the true one opened my heart.
SO beautiful…. Gabriella you and me we have the same name…. :)
loVE………. THE most basic yet the most complicated of all emotions. i guess nobody has really explained the real meaning of this word except of course Jesus… but then He/She is God.
Until now I’m still trying to determine the real meaning of this word in my life.
Any idea? Please share.
LOVE STORY – Where do I begin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7676EC06oc
Thank you Theresa. Wonderful music and film and a sad, human story.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
This is indeed my favourite BOOK “LOVE STORY” … it is beautiful….. I will write a story similar with this … I have started already…. But someone here on INTERNET, precisely on myspace,…is trying to confuse me … making me believe that He is my love… when my love is Him…is that man I have met 6 years ago… and surprisingly I have met him again last year in Spring…. a coincidence? FAITH??? I don’t know…all I know…is that o love him soooooo much and I am thinking of him all he time, he doesn’t know how I feel….. I better not tell him…. because when we love someone we want the other person to be happy… I will just keep him in my heart… and pry for him… and me! :) I think it is for the best… I am happy in that way too…. O:) Thanks you again for this wonderful movie + story!
LOVE,,
it’s not a word to express our feeling
BUT,,
it’s about GIVING & SHARING
LOVE
Haneen
hmmm,
I like this :o)
what about respecting?
excluding the ego’s neediness to do only things from which it wants to benefit?
Dear Wol I want your opinion on this :
“The first and the last love of our life is… self love.”
I read it somewhere.
Love
Olta
Touche!
Dear Olta, as I often say, we arrive here alone and go alone. Between the two, we encounter many others for many reasons, etc … I believe I am here as a student to become more and more at the ressemblance of the Master … the Master of Love.
Love, Jojo.
“You don’t have to go looking for love when it’s where you come from” ~Werner Erhard
For me there is not first or last, love is always there.
loveNlight
Gabi
Impossible, for we have not the self consciousness when new born, so first love is maybe for our mother. Last, depends…I guess for God, some, or…depends a lot.
Dear Olta,
I believe If your love for someone (even for God) does not increase your love for yourself, it is not a true love..
For true love grows always in both directions.
Tarek
I wonder
- whether the newborn experiences a full dependence on her/his mother because it cannot survive by itself.
- love between mother and baby develops then from this interaction and dependence as a result. and it goes in both directions: love the other love the self.
- it looks as if the mother, her way how she deals with her child reflects her love and therefore the child sees itself in her actions and the development of its self-love depends on this.
I do think that our need and capability for love & self-love comes with us, but its development and magnitude depends on us:
we can actively work on developing a positive self-love and love to others and correct possible failures.
my last love?
I can see that my attitude towards death is changing over time. at the same time, also my attitude towards spirituality and mankind/universe is changing. this feeling that I am part of a whole changes how I love. it is important that I take care of my self-love all the time, especially when the past shows its warning … but the focus is divided. at the moment of death, is there self-love important or does it with all the other loves become transcendent? I believe that “love in the air” :o)
great topic for a day, Olta :o)
love to you all.
-k
p.s. at the end: there seems to be a hassle with the physical problems that occur and limit the person’s “normal” life. thus, self-love can become irrelevant at this time? at the same time, the last connection seems to be always a connection with the other humans that are close, not a solely withdrawal to the self.
Hey Olta,
I kind of agree to some point; unless you love yourself and see yourself worthy of love then you feel you aren’t worthy of anyone elses love either.
But of course too much self love is just annoying ;)
Love <3
“True” love? Love is a ‘truth.’ Not THE truth. We love as we are–imperfectly.
I don’t think there is such thing as “true” and “false” love. Love can only be what it is nothing more and nothing less …it belongs to the higher realm of ideals and cannot be susceptible to any kind of change…In other words…it either is love…or is not love…
So according to the quote…when you want the other person to be happy…it means you love the other person…willing to do what it takes for it to be happy.If you want the other person…then you just have the illusion of loving the other person when in reality you just want yourself to be happy…Understantable…but this is not love…The one who loves…sets free…
Best Regards…and…Love:)
Wanting someone is what brings you pain and suffering. Love never ends, it’s boundless. I’ve recently said and done things in an attempt to break love apart, break a connection that goes far beyond any I’ve ever known, because I made the decision that our lives will not be spent together, there will be no have and hold, and I wanted to make it easier on myself, feel nothing, not know the loss.
It’s hard to go back to the point of the “true” love that this quote speaks of, and let go of the “false” love. I don’t think it is false either, I think it is being human. It’s the physical manifestation that our bodies and minds try and use to recreate in human terms something that is of the soul and heart.
The heart and soul of me loves and wants the best for her. My mind and body don’t want her to find it with anyone but me. Does that make me false?
With love, Daniel
Dear Daniel, I love your last paragraph. We are full of paradoxes! You made me laugh … thank you :))
Light & Love,
Dear Daniel
“The heart and soul of me loves and wants the best for her.” That for me is true love, in which one find the essence of liberty, of accepting the path in which in reality one has to go alone to discover the true meaning of love, friendship, fraternity, of transforming what one has to transform personally in this life for himself in order to be part of the Big Family, etc …
“My mind and body don’t want her to find it with anyone but me.” Well, the body reacts to the ingredients also that we put in. The mind has a powerful impact … those thoughts of not wanting her to find it with anyone but you, for me, are the thinkings of the ego that still want to gain property over the heart and the soul. Does that make you false? No, just aware of something that divides, that is contradiction, of the true battle.
True or false are just words used to distinguish the love of the heart and soul vs love as seen and believed by the ego, the false self that needs to be identified and dealt with in order to become who one is in its real essence, “real” essence.
I just separated and I could easily give up to my mind and provoke discomfort, etc … I just do not want to be there. I put my mind on helping find out what I need to retain from that experience in order to capture the wisedom that needs to be captured. I do not want to give power to regrets. I go through the ritual of the loss, of the end of a moment together on the path. Maybe one day we will encounter again, or maybe not … I just want to stick to what my heart and my soul tell me … surely, when I am in contact with those, my body and my mind are at peace.
And I will finish dear Daniel by saying the Michael Jackson’s words each time he had an opinion to say, a comment to give, a demand to ask … please receive this with love, Jojo.
I think like you DANIEL… in love… sometime …. we are selfish…. but it’s all out of love…and may it be this way…if this is how TRUE LOVE accts! :-)
It may not sound very cogitative, but to me true love is to share a hug and a kiss every day for years and years,through many rainy and shiny days.
How beautiful…Thanks, was like a glimpse of spring in a winter cold day.
Many hugs
Alexandra
Yes, this is REAL love! Down to earth and present in each moment of life. Thank you for sharing, Maria.
I believe fundamentally in the freedom of the love. Why to want to change the other one if it’s not by dominion or self-esteem! Nothing in touch with the love!
“All our passions reflect stars” – Victor Hugo
“Love is a knowledge which leads the lover beyond himself and beyond the object of his feeling” – Marcelle Sauvageot
I keep the best for the end because I love so so much him :))
“The real genius heartlessly is a nonsense. Because neither high intelligence, neither imagination, neither both together make the genius. Love! Love! Here’s the soul of the genius” – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Light & Love,
The mistery is in letting the person free, and that person wishing at once not to be so free anymore…he he he
I got a big surprise, did not expect. I can say patience is the key, and giving freedom to your love is really sign of patience. Right?
Love
Alexandra
For me, that quote applies to all relations, be it personal (me), with a close person to me (children, intimate friend, family), professional (clients, colleagues) and on a day-to-day basis with all. I want to share the light. If one does not want it, resist it, I stay who I am and continue to develop the true love for me, the one that nourish me and makes me able to give in return. I can give that kind of love when I give myself that love, when I stand for what makes me happy. I can give when I am full. I want to share what makes me happy, and in order to be able to do so is when I keep my cup full. One thing though … when you give that love, you have the responsibility to be in relations that also can bring you love and happiness. When you realize that you give all to others in order to see them receiving and happy, you need to be also nourished at one point. So, yes, in a close relationship, you want the other to be happy, but the other also should desire the same for me. At one point, you have to love you enough to make yourself happy in your choices. Since my separation, all on my husband’s side are unhappy … and me I am so happy … and I can give them so much love since I decided to give myself love and once and for all happiness. So, I can give that kind of love to all and wish to be that kind of lover, surely, but know that in order to share and give that love I need to nourish that kind of love for myself.
Love, Jojo.
Jojo absolutely agree that there is genuine reciprocity to make them happy! This is called compliance and is an indispensable ingredient in love! :))
Light & Love,
In the world we live it is unfortunatly so that when you are the one who leaves, when you know you have loved enough, but did not get enough back and leave you are seen as one who brings unhappiness to all those involved, and are made into be seen as the evil one and everybody drops you and gives you the evil eye, one is empty at that time and feels lost and lonely, but then you start to see you have you and slowly start to build up your innerstrength again to go on, you pick up the pieces that are left and rebuild yourself and your love for the world and its people and yourself. It is a painfull process but one has to hang in there and keep battling with oneself and overcome many feelings of doubt. Even being very lonely and having been dropped by all friends, I now know they were no friends and will battle on to get to the place I want to be and will let the sour taste of my experiences not let me be scared of trying again and again to get where I want to be. I have not lost the believe in love, true love. As love is the best thing worth fighting for in life, love for all.
true love
to take part in
a loving interaction of give and take
only an open heart can freely give
only an open heart can receive what is given
only a closed heart tries to own another…
Lots of love,
Vicky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KcMPQq6JYs&feature=related
The Ultimate love! HER LOVE.
This is dedicated to all our friends Warriors who are trying to find the SWORD!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
So beutiful Hildegarde! thanks for sharing.
loveNlight
Gabi
I’m not sure that I understand this quote well! I am battling with the word “want”!
“Want” is to posses – in true love you don’t own the other person, you love that person even if her/his happiness is with somebody else.
loveNlight
Gabi
“In true love you want your partner to be happy” – because YOU are happily in love with one another. His/Her happiness is your happiness and his/her sorrow is your sorrow.
“In false love you want your partner” -(because you are happy)to act happy even if he’s not happy. In this scenario, YOU press his emotional buttons with sheer delight and become a selfish lover.
i want to know what love is.. ;o)
great tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2cUX0CNA8
Hi.
“In true love you want your partner to be happy. In false love you want your partner.”
Yes I agree, BUT It is very easy to forget yourself in a relationship. when always thinking that you want your partner to be happy… you forget yourself!!!!
do you guys understand what Im saying?
best wishes
Hi Vicky,
Please excuse my un-poetic words, in Australia we call this “pissing in someone’s pocket”. When you start to modify or lose yourself to please someone, it’s time to be yourself and see if they really see you or just what they want to see.
With love, Daniel
And “everything that is not given is lost ”
LOVE
Sido
“Where love rules, there is no will to power, and where power predominates, love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other.”
Carl Jung, “On the Psychology of the Unconciousness”
yes, indeed.
wow!
Absolutely true! We have within us a piece animal which must be cautious :)
Light & Love,
We had same thing earlier Paulo sir. I don’t know what difference does the word ‘partner’ make here…
I say it again “love is also about wanting to be the reason for someone’s happiness”
Somehow i think ‘wanting someone to be happy’, ‘wanting to be reason for their happiness’ & ‘wanting them’ are intertwined.
Though I know the other person feels nothing for me i continue to love. Why?
Because there is somewhere that little hope in stupid heart that the person would understand it? Love me back?
We crave for that person to love us back, don’t we? And that’s ‘false’ love?
Talking about ‘Unconditional love’, are we?
Love them with all you have, they find love somewhere else and are happy; and you end up with loneliness?
Dear Paulo Sir, somewhere you said that: ‘love can consign us to paradise or hell. But it always takes us somewhere.”
Guess what I talked above takes a person to hell.
And the reason? Suffering because you can love only one person truly?????
I have the same, putting others happiness before mine, that is why after 20 years of marriage I thought I have been patient enough and left and now feel my patients did not bring me anything, several years on I realize unfortunately I did not change my way and still put others happiness before mine and now realize I need to start putting my happiness further up front, because only if I feel happy can I truly give happiness to others. But I find it is a hard habbit to break as over 40 years I have had this habbit. But I will keep trying :-)
love ❉♡❉
I was just trying to respond to a 16 year olds question of what is love, honestly! I learned in my early 20′s when I loved a man that I couldn’t have, about unconditional love. When I realized that we were not going to be together as I felt we should, as I longed for us to be, I wanted to be angry with him, to find all the reasons to dislike him. It was then I realized if I ever really loved him, that my love shouldn’t be conditioned on whether or not we were together, if I really loved him, I would love him together or apart. That was over 25 years ago, we’ve remained distant friends and to this day both having gone through changes, loves, when we see each other, we remember that love and can say, I love you, I love you too. When we met, my mother had just been diagnosed with breast cancer and unbeknownst to me, he had just found his brother dead from commiting suicide. I think we were extremely vulnerable to loving each other, needing to love each other! He’s a musician and every so often I’ll be in a restaurant and hear his music played over the music system! It reminds me of unconditional love and the man who taught me that!
From the Movie: Unconditional Love (2002)
Dirk Simpson: I dont believe in unconditional love, I mean, what is it anyway? Cut off my ears, steal my money and I’ll love you anyway?
Grace Beasley: Yes, and more.
Dirk Simpson: More?
Grace Beasley: You don’t have to love me back
loveNlight
Gabi
yeah but that’s not true love, love if happiness and freedom, not tears and a destructive cage…
true love means two people who are just one soul in two bodies…
good luck finding yours, hope you survive your dark cage.
i was joking before!
In true love you want your partner to be happy. In false love you want your partner.
But dear Paul, the quote speaks about ‘our partner’ which is a different point and story! ;-] And for this relationship the .. least that we ..need is patience! We have to be decisive for our own .. happiness, I think.
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
it reminds me of some words i have read in Brida..
true eternal love is when you see the Other as a flower and let him/her blossom..If you possess the flower, by cutting it, then some day its beauty will fade..(the painful part is when this love is eternal because it was occasionally or never expressed, and therefore you never possessed the Other..the fact that this love is eternal is the only comforting part..)
Sure,
love is caring for someone else.
“In true love you want your partner to be happy. In false love you want your partner.”
I think that true love is simple and that these two things are linked together. There should be give and take on both sides, if the relationship is to be genuine. There should be a little bit of this and a little bit of that!
Hoah
Well two hearts and opposite attraction
It’s just their luck
They fall in love
He wants it his way
And she wants it her way
Working out all that stuff.
It takes a little bit of this
Hoah, with a little bit of that
A little bit of good
Yeah, with a little bit of bad
You know that life’s a contradition
And you can’t escape the fact
You gotta take a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
Lyrics – Carolyn Dawn Johnson
In true love you HAVE in false love you WANT.Some people can be happy..being unhappy.
Love is an important part of happiness.
“YOU cannot always HAVE happiness, but you can always GIVE happiness” [Author Unknown]
I think true love exists in its own presence; it´s there! You don´t have to mess with it! :-) True love fills your body with divine warmth, it overtakes all your senses… And the question is not whether to want it, or to make it happy; (whatever it is), but to wanna cherish and adore it for a lifetime and even more, when it´s gone!
wanting to possess love does not mean you ‘have’ that love.
and it is an irony that in order to know love you must set it free.
love and know thyself, then it is with the heart that one will SEE rightly ;o)
In true love you want your partner to be happy. In false love you want your partner.
Here we have again the issue of Eros, Agape, Philia! Plato, in his Symposium, has dealt extensively on the topic. I understand that in true love you want your partner to be happy; but I would not accept to share him with somebody else just because he feels this makes him happy!!! ;-] Would he accept the same for my … happiness???? If there is such a relationship, I think, this has long ceased to be a passionate EROS! The Ψυχή= Psyche is going to grieve, because when ‘in love’ you need the other person, you breath for the other person and in your heart there is no place for somebody else. Of course we love different people with a different kind of love, but then it is logic, interests, fear, indecision and/ or boredom involved!
I am not an ANGEL!!!! I am a simple, passionate woman; a daughter of … Cyprian Aphrodite!!!! ;-]
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
You make me GIGGLE.. daughter of Cyprian Aphrodite!!!
;P Perhaps you should go to search for that sword you could use to fight off all those competing rivals, before they mess with your true love ;DD
You are right Thelma.I’m the same.We shouldn’t accept everything.I think we should announce clearly at the start of the relationship what we need,how we fonction.A person who want to be with one person cannot be with a person who wants to be with several.But it can happen to everyone,it did to me,the last you talked about,look for love out of fear and indecision,but I would have never crossed the line between mentally and physically,never.Until you realised that it was your fear to get attached,your indecision “do I take the right decision?”,until you realised that there are behaviour to get rid of and until you realise that “all you ever wanted,all you ever needed,is here in your arms..”
Love
Candie
But why must it hurt in the process??
Dear Jessica,
‘Love is patient
Love is kind
it does not envy
it does not boast
it is not proud
it is not rude
it is not self seeking
It is not easily angered
Love does not delight in evil
but rejoices in the truth
it always protects
always trusts
always hopes
always perserves
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
I thought of this when I read your question about hurt,
love Breda : )
Dear Paulo,
-There is no true or false love, there is only love.
-The true and false are very subjective evaluation of most important feeling human would ever have: Love.
-Love is not bold or bald. Love is the true essence of human nature. The way he/she/it behaves, the way of an act, the way of deep feelings for objects or subjects so on and so forth.
-True itself is not true. False was never false. We evaluated them and put them into two baskets. One was evil and other was god.
-May love find you, may love be into you, may love bring you joy to dance with the wind of change, may love be in each of us, may love bring peace on earth, may love be only shrines, even at devil’s workshop, may love find you, my love.
God bless you all !
I like your post, and think a love is never false. It is or it is not love, and if we must not follow patterns, so love has many faces too, is not same from person to person…I guess.
Love
Alexandra(I dont want to “have ” you guys…)
won’t it get boring, all love no hate, all systematic, no drama, it is fine to hanker for love and peace, but are we mature enough, teh whole of human race to live peacefully with peace, then what will happen to all our share markets, all our gambling dens, all places of ‘pleasure’. all our vices we love so much !! i mean frankly too much love may become poisonous, ? no ????
love
aditya
“Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.” In false love you could break free from your partner and the feelings will soon die, in true love the pain of that absence will go on forever.
“Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.” quote by Kahlil Gibran.
Thats it! I agree.
I agree with the deep meaning of it..only,wait you want your partner to be joyful,not happy!:)
A very painful quote. Goes to show why ‘true love’ is so very rare. We all want something… our partner, their attention, their heart, their future.
It’s becoming harder and harder for people to be ‘giving’ instead of ‘taking’.
What I noticed lately, beg pardon if I hurt anyone, is how many men looking for comfort(money, freedom…) and not for pure love. Even when I think look, a couple who is not in that way, I found out is the women that bring the money, or has wealthy family…Hope I am wrong.
Sure, there are some exceptions. Thanks God
True love is always benevolent. You want all beings to be happy. In false love you think certain people do not deserve love but punishment.
God´s love is healing love. That love is and is living in our (wounded) hearts even if only as seed. Life is good (One saw..) and so are all creatures. Not a single soul will be lost.
Let´s dare to be what is called naive. It all happens according to our belief as Jesus said.
Love & Trust
Dorothea
Yes. This should always be our intentions from the bottom of our hearts, to wish happiness for our partner. In a way the expression ‘true love’ is a bit passe, because it takes us to the past, and pretty much mean to meet one soul mate, get married and live happily ever after. Does anybody still believe in this concept? I certainly don’t. Ok, so in Brida, we see a possibility for several soul mates. Yes, now we are beginning to get closer to the truth.
I like the expression ‘real love’ in Eleven Minutes, better than ‘true love’. Here is described how two people meet and find that vibe that convince them both, only you and I right now means everything to each other, for some reason we cannot quite understand.
In a way the whole saying; ‘In true love you want your partner to be happy. In false love you want your partner’, is BS! It doesn’t happen like this. Love isn’t about reflecting with your mind, ‘oh, let me see what is the best I can do/be for this man/woman’ Love just happens, fires up intensely and you loose control and just live completely as long as it last. Love gets us to learn a new language, move to the other side of the world, change eating and music habits, share sides of our self we have never shared before, and just for once we can put aside all this ‘oh, I should do this or that’ all these speculations. Love isn’t like that. Real love just follow the heart wherever the heart dances to.
Hi ! Long time
this god is surely stupid !! why does it have to be diffrent, why cannot wanting your parter and wanting your partners happiness be same, love is when all wants cease !
somewhere someone said someting about self love, self love is fine but that self being spoken of is a vast self where everyone, everything is part of the same self, i feel.
love
aditya
PS : before god takes any offese, let me add, its possible that god is not stupid but i am, and am yet to be there where love happnes.
I found a text might fit, if translated.
From Mircea Eliade
“Zilele trecute incercam sa vorbesc cu cativa prieteni despre moarte, iar ei parca mi-ar fi spus: “Draga, fii serios si lasa prostiile la o parte!”. Ei nu intelegeau ca ceea ce le apare lor drept prostii poate insemna pentru mine o problema esentiala. Si atunci m-am intrebat ce ar spune prietenii mei daca as savarsi un act compromitator, dar cerut urgent de libertatea mea? Si mi-am dat seama ca n-ar judeca schimbarea din punctul meu de vedere. Ei n-ar incerca sa treaca o clipa in mine, ca sa imi inteleaga nebunia. M-ar decreta nebun, m-ar tolera s-au m-ar lasa singur. In nici un caz n-ar trece in mine. Or, dragostea adevarata nu insemna decat aceasta completa renuntare la individualitatea ta pentru a trece in celalalt.
O prietenie nu se verifica numai prin libertatea pe care i-o acorzi celuilalt. A ajuta pe un prieten la nevoie, a-l incalzi cu mangaierile tale, a-l inconjura cu “sinceritatile” tale nu inseamna nimic. Altele sunt adevaratele probe ale prieteniei: a nu-i incalca libertatea, a nu-l judeca din punctul tau de vedere (care poate fi real si justificabil, dar poate nu corespunde experientei destinului celuilalt), a nu-l pretui prin ceea ce iti convine sau te amuza pe tine, ci pentru ceea ce este, pentru el insusi, prin ceea ce trebuie el sa realizeze ca sa ajunga un om. Iar nu un simplu manechin.
Toate acestea insa nu ti le cere nimeni, dupa cum nimeni nu-ti cere adevarata sinceritate, ci numai acea sinceritate pe care o doreste el. Nu uitati ca intr-o prietenie nu conteaza numai ceea ce ia celalalt. Fiecare luam mai putin decat ar trebui. Acesta este marele nostru pacat: ca nu ne e sete de mai mult, ca ne multumim cu sferturi; de aceea avem fiecare dintre noi atata spaima de ridicol. Nu numai ca nu dam cat ar trebui, dar luam cu mult mai putin decat ni se ofera.”
One start to think after reading it…
Love
Alexandra
That’s true. It’s time that some people understand what love is really about, that it is not the one they think about after being with a person for a couple of days and that it implies much more that atraction towards someone
If you just want your partner, this feeling will dissipate with time and there will be nothing remaining. If you want your partner to be happy you are selfless and your only concern is their wellbeing. Real work. True Love.
Shane.
Ha ha ha, I have a question. I posted it in face book too.
What if one want the partner, and also wants him???
Why desire means no happiness?
I think if one desire to own the other, without considering the other opininon, feelings, than is wrong.
I think that everything in right amount is ok, desire too.
I am afraid I was not clear. I mean, what if you want that you be happy together with your partener? Besides is not a relation master slave…
I wonder how can one desire that the loved be happy, and not to have him near? I think lovers want to stay as much closer as possible, and they will be jealous too( which is right, till a point…). I think is such a fake thing pretending that you dont have wishes, is ok, maybe life dont give to you all, the joy to have your love shared, but who can say that it wont hurt? You are happy the other is happy( but inside your hear cries)…Depends on the situation.
Couldn’t agree more… when u love someone his/her happiness is all what you want, even if you are not part of that happiness. The true meaning of unconditional love.
loveNlight
Gabi
“No one can loose anyone, because no one owns anyone.” P. Coelho
“Tan imposible es avivar la lumbre con nieve, como apagar el fuego del amor con palabras”.
William Shakespeare
“Solamente pasaba diez minutos con el amor de su vida, y miles de horas pensando en él”.
Paulo Coelho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xznz1hyz5qo
L’ELISIR D’AMORE!
The ελιξίρ is again a Greek word, BFF!
For me I think that TRUE LOVE is not afraid of any rivals; otherwise it is and was not a true love but a .. caprice!!
Let them free .. and if they go they were never yours!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Dear Candie, thank you. Of course what we are writing and saying here is just … philology!! ;-]
Once we find ourselves involved in a perplexed situation with strong emotions involved, then we lose our … phlegm!
As I believe in .. destiny and Karma, I think, that we really cannot have control, especially whenever strong emotions and Eros are involved.
May we all be able to take our decisions .. wisely!
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Thank you dear Annie!
❉♡❉
And do you know the silly thing is that almost all of those 20 years I believed it was my fault, in the way I thought I hadn’t tried hard enough, hadn’t done enough to make the marriage work, now looking back I see I did half the work setting up his business, all the work organising the family, bringin up the kids, the moves to different countries and getting set up, rebuilding and redecorating the homes we lived in (not with workmen but with my own hands), entertain business colleagues and bosses with big dinners etc etc and always putting up with him criticising everything as it wasn’t quite to his liking. For a while I was angry with him but now I know that doesn’t help me, I’m 44 and am now turning a new page in my life, not finding it easy but I am optimistic and believe in me, when I could survive what I went through (more then I wrote here) I can do anything if I put my mind to it. I have battled with many depressions, but those can be beaten too, and when they turn up I just have to believe they will also go again, as that is what depressions do, if you pay attention to them.
A first again for me, never write about myself so honestly.
love
❉♡❉
About true love , I believe I truly loved, but wasn’t loved back, true love has to be from both sides!
love
❉♡❉
That is why my name is butterflymuur, I was in the cocoon and am now working my way out to spread my wings and fly, thank you dear Annie for your kindness and care!
with love ❉♡❉
Dear Happy in love, I’m talking about unconditional love, the kind of love that has not conditions or expectations, that is true love.
Love is always light even if sometimes it makes us cry.
I’m in love… with life, with the universe, with all human beings.
loveNlight
Gabi
Just because somebody doesn’t love you the way you want them to, doesn’t mean they don’t love you with all they have.
loveNlight
Gabi
hehe,I know you know but you didn’t know that I know although I don’t know what face he has!I will try my best!hehe,Thot!(don’t worry I’m just speaking to myself here,I don’t suffer of identity crisis…)
Much love to you
I shall see you soon then
Candie :)
I love your lively .. spirit dear Candie! Reading I wonder if I was ever….. young and .. doubtful!! ;-] Yes you will see … the Mama!!!;-]
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Thank you, Gabi.
Yes I get this but “want” in a love/sexual relationship can also mean ‘desire’(sexual) or also the wish to ‘have and to hold.’ Anyway, I’ll have to keep on thinking because I don’t understand “false” either!
Love, Theresa
I like this explanation…very meaningful. Thank you, Annie
Absoluty OK with you ! Never forget what attracted us in our partner. The instint of property gets married badly to the love :(
Light & Love,
yeah, tolerance, respect then do not really exist. get replaced by manipulation.
thanks, Annie :o)
Yes, I agree when we truly love, we are able to have patience beyond what we imagined. We are often waiting for a relationship that would become a single pace as each person has his own pace. It’s a bit like believing that every time we made love, we will reach orgasm. We know that this is not true! This does not detract from the sincerity of the act.
The freedom of love is to accept that the other does not advance at the same pace and can also be built through other than oneself. As rightly said Paulo, everything has a price, the love too! :))
Light & Love,
Annie, the institution of marriage as it’s today is not for me the truth. This is a deal among many others. At the risk of offending, can marry for practical reasons which preclude romance. For me, love has another dimension that marriage. To me, commitment and faith does not begin at the foot of an altar or signing an official document. However, I deeply respect the people for whom it’s a necessary commitment. To each his own truth! :))
Light & Love,
hmm…
doesn’t it depend on the definition & experience?
def:
“showing respect for the rights or opinions or practices of others”
I felt respecting a person is not enough ….
the hassling with words :o)
may be in this case redundant.
Annie, I don’t know if you saw the Milos Forman film about Mozart. I love your cheeky in this film. Yes, you’re right … Hip! Hip! Mozart!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57I7sdn7VtQ
Light & Love,
I love this expression. hehehhe And u too.
<3 <3 <3
Thank you Gabriela.
“You don’t have to go looking for love when it’s where you come from” Loved this one.
Love
Olta
Let’s keep on studying then. ;)
I think, lets ask someone who wants to kill himself, than a saint.
Than I think that the saint loves himself less than the one who wants to die, because he loves himself so much that he doesn’t want to suffer anymore.
Than I think that I am thinking to much, having no real answers so I need to ask my own self. I don’t say to myself I love you, but I know I care and want good things for my self when I start to desire and to worry. The first person we deal with it is always our own self.
I really don’t know what to say, because I think that the best conditions when we can make ourself this question, it is under pain, while we are suffering. Who would be the first person we would care the most FIRST. I’ve been under great pain too but, still I don’t know what to say…
I think that my answer would be just to selfish or just to silly. Cause there is a Yes and a No.
Too confused. I need help on this…or maybe more concentration. heheh
Love
Olta
Thank you Tarek! I will be meditating on this one.
Dear Tarek,
I admire your wholesome view on Love,
Breda : )
I think you have a good point there Tarek.
Thank you!OOH I like that!
Arregalar os olhos.:);):o)
At least for the first I can say that we might love our mothers but we just don’t care about their pains, cause we are too selfish by wanting all what we want the way and the moment we want. Baby are so selfish. heheh
Love
Olta
Always with love Jojo. Thank you.
So you are making the mistake to think all that want to die are same, and all the saints again same?
oh,,thnx :)
RESPECTING,,
i think it’s about treating the people like in the same way we want them to treat us
it’s about understanding & appreciation
with all respect
Haneen
Hahaahha maybe.
Actually not. I was only thinking of one case, but things might be different.
So I am telling you that I would want to know but I don’t know. So this is what I am going to do. I won’t think at all about this anymore, cause it won’t be worth it and because if the answer has to, it will come to me, some way.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
PS: Unless any of you won’t enlighten me.
Love
Dear Friend, you are back!!!! Was wondering for a long time where you were … So happy to see you again. For me, I would not get bored and feel need to have hate, drama in my life. I have had enough. I would spent the rest of my days in the presence of God, just to be in its presence of love and wisedom and listen, listen, reflect and create from that, which would create a New World and not the one which is present and is unable to make a place of that kind of love. It would bring all back to the initial intentions. How can I answer those questions if I had not lived that other dimension and with what can I compare? I never lived in a world that only contains true love. I know deep inside that that is the world which has to be, for which I have to battle. For now, I can answer from me and my experiences and truly I have had enough of hate, drama, false pleasures, vices, etc … I am truly in a revolution mode. True love is the poison that will destroy this unhealthy world and create a new one, and that is the “poison” that I want to come into my body. For me, any time, I am ready to let that poison of love flow in all my system to heal, clean and purify my system. You know, it makes me come back to my battle against alcool. Each day, I make the decision not to take alcool. I could handle it today, but I do not want to put that into my body, because that glass of alcool, even if it gives a little pleasure is a poison I do not want and I am cautious, it could bring me back to a world that I do not want to be anymore. At times, I would like to be more funny, more this or that with the help of a glass of alcool … but today I know I can be more funny, more this and more that if I pursue in learning to love. Love is a drug! Love for myself, the other human being (soul) and the Universe. That is the alcool that needs to fill my veins, my head, my organism. And the actions, choices. You know, it’s like want to we fear loosing if we let love be the principal essence? Losing control ???? Losing power??? Losing pleasure????
Love, Jojo.
HI jojo !
then u are reday for nirvana, happy nirvana to you. last two months i was lost, amongst many things i did, one was to read a weird book called laws of teh spirit world ! not a bad attempt to explain that which exists. amongst many things one theory propounded there was that, normally u are a soul of teh spirit world, where there are many levels of exiswtnace, level seven being hghest heaven before one procceeds to next dimesional universe. and level 1 being lowest, like worst hell. human life is a expeditor, one can choose human life and speed up one’s journey, becuase here both heaven and hell are available in equal measure, having gone through, when you turn to peace, that peace has a a value, which is not same for that person who has lived in peace all his life. as i said now u are readay for nirvana, just being with god, purelu being, fully lost in HER/HIM, without any iota of your ego existing, total let go, to become one with that which is.
on earth, pure peace is not possible, but it does not mean wols should not keep on trying for that goal. their attempts keeps things in balance.
love
aditya
When I saw it I just thought of you, beautiful little Swannie!! Since this swan couple has babies the … divorce is out of the question!!! Remember the others?
LOVE,
Thelma xxx
Aditya,
Welcome back ! :)
This place is to share and love each other. Paulo Coelho has given us an opportunity just to do that.
I have met lot of interesting people here and I wish to listen to all of your inner voices.
Because I know you guys are listening mine.
God blesses you all !
Thanks for sharing Aditya. The first peace that needs to be attained is inner peace, and going to attain that goal yes brings back balance, personal, interpersonal and universal. So happy to converse with you again Aditya. At this moment, I am giving you the biggest hug and smile that I have. Take care dear WOL.
Love, Jojo
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